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Union crushing legislation looms large
Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:52am
 
No surprise Labor and the unions are spinning in ever decreasing circles as Armageddon approaches!!!!

And Jacqui Lambie has them hanging on suspenders!!!





SA Senators set to help Govt pass union crackdown laws
Michelle Grattan / The Conversation CANBERRA Monday November 11, 2019

The government appears set to secure Senate support this week for tough legislation to crack down on bad behaviour in the union movement, after the near finalisation of an agreement with Centre Alliance for several significant changes.

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The bill deals with officials and unions that consistently break existing laws. The federal court could disqualify the person from holding office or deregister the union or a branch of it.

The legislation – which has its origin in the royal commission into trade union behaviour – also proposes a public interest test for amalgamations of unions.

Centre Alliance has sought changes to raise the threshold for disqualifications and deregistrations. These include:

inserting a system of demerit points as a threshold for applications, so unions or officials would not be acted against for minor infringements. An official or union would have to reach a minimum penalty threshold over the preceding decade
For an individual, that would be 180 penalty points over 10 years for a breach of various laws or contempt of court in relation to these laws. A union would have to reach 900 penalty points over 10 years before it could be considered.

the power to apply to the federal court for deregistration or disqualification to rest only with the Registered Organisations Commissioner, not with the minister or interested parties.
This would make the process more independent. It would bring the change into line with the Corporations Act, where only the Australian Securities and Investments Commission can move for disqualification of directors.

Ensuring that the federal court could only deregister a union or disqualify an official for grave misconduct. The court would also consider whether a public interest element provided exonerating circumstances.
In another change proposed by Centre Alliance, the public interest test for unions mergers would only be triggered where one or both organisations had a history of misconduct.

The threshold would be that a union had a substantial number of compliance events over 10 years.

The government will need three votes out of those held by Centre Alliance (with two senators), One Nation (also two) and Jacqui Lambie.


Centre Alliance’s Rex Patrick said on Sunday the party was “close” to final agreement with the government. It had been working constructively with industrial relations minister Christian Porter who had been “obliging”.

The bill in its original form was a “sledge hammer to crack a nut when what was needed was a nut cracker,” Patrick said.

Lambie has previously said she will vote for the bill unless militant construction union official John Setka resigns his union positions, which he has refused to do.

Porter said “the drafting of amendments to reach a working compromise is advanced”.

“Despite Labor and the ACTU’s increasingly hysterical and farcical claims about this bill, it does not stop anyone from joining a union, nor does the bill have any impact whatsoever on a union’s ability to exercise its rights to represent its members, including in relation to underpayment of wages and health and safety concerns.

“Labor or CFMMEU assertions to the contrary are completely and utterly false,” Porter said.


Although the legislation is aimed at unions, the government points out it also covers employer organisations.

Opposition leader Anthony Albanese told the ABC the legislation was “just about attacking unions” and “can’t be fixed”.

“This is an attack on the organisations that go into workplaces that deal with issues like wage theft, that ensure that there’s proper occupational health and safety … They ensure that you don’t have worker exploitation, including foreign workers on work sites. Unions play a critical role in civil society”.

He said the legislation was “an attack on the fundamental right of people to belong to unions.”

“This government hasn’t changed its spots from WorkChoices. They essentially don’t believe in unions’ right to exist, and that’s what the legislation is about. It’s bad legislation. It is unsupportable in my view and we won’t be voting for it,” Albanese said.


Mandatory minimum sentences also a headache for Labor
Labor faces a wedge on another piece of legislation – a bill to impose mandatory minimum sentences for child sex crimes under Commonwealth law. The ALP opposes the mandatory sentencing aspects.

Porter, who is also attorney general, said about 39% of all child sex offenders convicted of Commonwealth offences didn’t spend any time in prison.

“The Morrison government believes that is simply not good enough, which is why we have proposed mandatory minimum jail terms to ensure the punishment fits the crime.”

Bit more Union thugs crushing here

https://indaily.com.au/news/politics/2019/11/11/sa-senators-set-to-help-govt-pas...
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Re: Union crushing legislation looms large
Reply #1 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:58am
 
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:52am:
No surprise Labor and the unions are spinning in ever decreasing circles as Armageddon approaches!!!!

And Jacqui Lambie has them hanging on suspenders!!!

I will hold you to the same standard as these laws.

I'm going to go through your posting history and report every personal attack you make and keep doing so until you are banned - PERMANENTLY.

It's only fair.
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Reply #2 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:06am
 
I've been whispering in La Lambie's ear about not attacking her natural constituents and not becoming just another Hanson, by talking big about the 'ordinary people' while helping drive them into the sparse paddocks so their 'betters' can get the best feed and water in this never-ending economic drought caused by mismanagement at the highest levels.......

Thanks for reminding me to remind her again..
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Reply #3 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:16am
 
Now Bammy is doing his usual hate tour and trying to attack me instead of concentrating on the FACTS which see Labor in Opposition for the next 20 years.

I guess this is the price of being a successful poster devoted to TRUTH and FACTS.

Bammy's inflated sense of importance is cute and typical of the Politically Correct mentality.

Another GetUp! Hillsong Revivalist Indoctrination Session is required.
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Reply #4 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:31am
 
But back to the topic and leaving the HATE behind. Like ScoMo does. And what does the future hold for the naughty unions now ? 

Could this be the key to start the Australian economic engine once the union thug menace is silenced ?





Deal to disqualify union bullies on verge of passing Senate
Andrew Tillett Political Correspondent Nov 11, 2019 — 12.00am

Rogue union officials face being drummed out of the construction industry within weeks – the Morrison government is poised to clinch a deal that will enable a crackdown on union militancy when senators return to Canberra on Monday.

Only some last-minute haggling remains over provisions regulating union mergers in the government's union integrity bill, and key crossbench senator Rex Patrick has indicated that he is satisfied with the amendments so far.

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Industrial Relations Minister Christian Porter has agreed to several of Rex Patrick's amendments for the union integrity bill.  Alex Ellinghausen

Industrial Relations Minister Christian Porter told The Australian Financial Review he believed the government would be able to accommodate Senator Patrick.

While the legislation was not retrospective – meaning officials such as Victorian construction union boss John Setka would start with a clean slate – Mr Porter said the "clock would start ticking" once the new regime was in place and he did not expect the Registered Organisations Commission to delay acting.

"At the moment, the CFMMEU is breaching workplace industrial laws on construction sites three or four times a week," he said.

"If they continued on that course, it would be a matter of, I would say, weeks before you would see applications to disqualify individual officials and months before you see applications to deregister a part of that organisation.

"Alternatively the bill might act as a deterrent and they might break the habit of their industrial lifetime and stop breaching laws on construction sites.

"Either way, it's a better alternative for the public than to continue paying increased construction costs."

The bill, officially known as the Ensuring Integrity legislation, is not listed for debate this week but it is widely expected that, once the government is certain of the numbers, it will bring it on for a vote, which needs to happen by Wednesday.

The Morrison government is trying to scam the Senate crossbench into believing they have improved this bill.
— ACTU president Michele O'Neil


To get legislation through the Senate, the government needs support from three of five remaining crossbenchers.

Senator Patrick and Centre Alliance colleague Stirling Griff can provide two votes, while senator Jacqui Lambie has declared she will vote for the legislation while Mr Setka remains in his job. One Nation's two senators, who will meet Mr Porter on Tuesday, could also vote for the legislation.

The changes Senator Patrick has sought and have been agreed to include a demerit points system so that only union officials who commit significant or repeated breaches are disqualified; allowing only the independent Registered Organisations Commissioner to launch an action against a union or official; and giving judicial officers greater discretion in considering the gravity of an offence and a public interest defence for union action.

The outstanding issue is around union amalgamations – Senator Patrick wants only unions with a record of misconduct to be subjected to a public interest test before being allowed to merge.

"We are close. I think we will get there," he said.

"We've managed to significantly soften the bill [and] we have the view it will only cause issues to unions that regularly break the law."

'Coat of paint'
But the Australian Council of Trade Unions said the changes negotiated by Senator Patrick did not shift its view that the legislation was an extreme ideological attack on unions in a last-ditch appeal to senators.

"The Morrison government is trying to scam the Senate crossbench into believing they have improved this bill. In reality, they are simply giving it a coat of paint," ACTU president Michele O'Neil said.

Parliament will resume this week with just the Senate sitting, and the government will have to wait until the House of Representatives returns on November 25 to rubber-stamp the amended integrity legislation before it becomes law.

The government's "big stick" legislation to break up energy companies will pass the Senate with Labor support.

While the government is set for a win on union integrity, the repeal of the so-called "medivac" bill, which governs the transfer of sick asylum seekers to Australia, remains in limbo.


Senator Michaelia Cash arrives at the Federal court in Melbourne to give evidence earlier this year.

Senator Lambie again holds the key vote and her spokeswoman said she was continuing to talk to stakeholders but remained undecided and did not intend to speak publicly on the matter until it was before the Senate.


The senators will soon be rejoined by Jim Molan after NSW Liberal party members overwhelmingly endorsed him to fill the vacancy to be left by Arthur Sinodinos, who has been appointed the next ambassador to the US.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/deal-to-disqualify-union-bullies-on-verge-o...
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Reply #5 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:38am
 
There's no stopping ScoMo now as he gets things done Trump style. And he is cleaning up the Medivac farce as well.

Wonder what he had to do for Jacqui Lambie who always has the hand out ?


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Reply #6 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:45am
 
The "independents" are going for all they can get for agreeing to pass the lego.




Hanson, Porter negotiating on union bill
Finbar O'Mallon AAP Tuesday, 12 November 2019 7:23 am

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The federal government's union-busting bill is being discussed with One Nation. Credit: AAP

The federal government will meet with Pauline Hanson's One Nation to try to secure the passage of its controversial union-busting bill through the upper house.

It comes as the Centre Alliance says it will essentially support the bill pending some last minute checks of the legislation, after the government took on its demerit points system.

Senator Hanson is due to meet with Attorney-General Christian Porter on Tuesday, The Australian has reported.

The Senate is due to vote on Wednesday on the Ensuring Integrity bill, which would allow the government to deregister unions and ban officials.

Crossbench votes in the senate would be crucial to see the bill pass, with union adverts targeting the two Centre Alliance senators and Tasmanian independent Jacqui Lambie.

Ms Lambie has said she would support the bill as long as the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union's controversial Victorian secretary John Setka doesn't quit.

Centre Alliance senator Rex Patrick got his wish for a demerit point system to ensure officials aren't banned for minor breaches.


But Electrical Trades Unions national secretary Allen Hicks has said this would "simply put lipstick on a pig".

Senator Patrick told ABC on Tuesday he and fellow-Centre Alliance senator Stirling Griff essentially supported the bill.

"We're just crossing the 't's and dotting the 'i's," Senator Patrick said.

He waved off concerns his demerit points system would lead to a 'three-strikes, you're out' approach, with unions saying the courts would have to consider the context of the breaches.

Senator Patrick said the government's union watchdog, the Registered Organisation Commission, would have to prove systematic problems within unions.

https://7news.com.au/politics/hanson-porter-negotiating-on-union-bill-c-551983
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Reply #7 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:49am
 
Bam wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:58am:
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:52am:
No surprise Labor and the unions are spinning in ever decreasing circles as Armageddon approaches!!!!

And Jacqui Lambie has them hanging on suspenders!!!

I will hold you to the same standard as these laws.

I'm going to go through your posting history and report every personal attack you make and keep doing so until you are banned - PERMANENTLY.

It's only fair.



Post them here:  http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1525307041/247#247
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Reply #8 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 11:49am
 
Oh Gweggy, Bammy makes quite few nasty personal attacks often at me but I simply ignore it.

And the quote he used was not a personal attack on anyone as it was simply a comment about the topic.

Bammy is simply annoyed because I am quite successful at posting the TRUTH and the FACTS which are definitely not supporting Labor.

I suggest Bammy do more work on looking at the TRUTH and the FACTS rather than waste his time trying to attack me. He has tried this before.

Things is looking grim for Labor without much joy to be seen.
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Reply #9 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 7:58am
 
Rouge unions sabotaging the Australian economy are running scared as they try to stop the ScoMo behemoth bearing down on them.




Unions still fighting government crackdown
Matt Coughlan AAP Tuesday, 12 November 2019 4:17PM

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If the bill passed then there would be many unions at risk of being shut down, Michele O'Neil says.

Unions are making a desperate last-ditch bid to convince crossbench senators to block Morrison government attempts to crack down on rogue behaviour.

The government appears to be edging closer to getting support for its "ensuring integrity" bill, with negotiations with Pauline Hanson, who controls two votes, and independent Jacqui Lambie ongoing.

The measures will make it easier to deregister unions and ban officials through applications to the Federal Court.

Australian Council of Trade Unions secretary Sally McManus and president Michele O'Neil have spent the week in Canberra lobbying senators to block the legislation.

While the odds appear to be stacked against unions, the ACTU is fighting to the wire.

"We're unionists. We never give up," Ms O'Neil told AAP on Tuesday.

"We think that this is such an extreme bit of legislation that the more people understand it - including the more the senators whose vote will be crucial on this - the less inclined they'll be to support it."

Centre Alliance, which has two votes in the Senate, is set to support the bill after the government agreed to add a demerit point system to the regime.


Under the amendments, an official with 180 demerit points could be banned while a union could face deregistration if it racked up 900 points.

Ms O'Neil said there was 500-point penalties for unions lodging financial records late with the Registered Organisations Commission.

"They allow union officials to be disqualified and unions to be shut down for the type of minor breaches that companies do every day," she said.

Senator Lambie has refused to block the bill unless Victorian construction union secretary John Setka quits.


The government has pointed to the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union's record of breaches as a reason a tougher regime is needed.

CFMMEU unions and officials could face deregistration or disqualification within weeks of the bill becoming law.

The government could bring it on for a Senate vote if it clinches crossbench support this week.

Ms O'Neil said the issue was bigger than one union or official.

She said the Registered Organisations Commission was already raising "paperwork" issues with other unions.

"We believe that if this bill passed into law then there would be many unions at risk of being shut down and many union officials at risk of being disqualified," she said.

The CFMMEU on Tuesday launched a campaign against Senator Patrick, his partyroom colleague Stirling Griff and Senator Lambie.

The Electrical Trades Union has also targeted the trio with an aggressive advertising campaign.

While Senator Patrick warned the ETU's tactics could cost unions power at the negotiating table with the crossbenchers in the future, Ms O'Neil defended the ads.

"I don't think that's a bad thing in a democracy that people have an opportunity to let senators know how serious the decisions they're making are," she said.

https://thewest.com.au/politics/hanson-porter-negotiating-on-union-bill-ng-s-197
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Reply #10 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 9:10am
 
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:16am:
Now Bammy is doing his usual hate tour and trying to attack me instead of concentrating on the FACTS which see Labor in Opposition for the next 20 years.

I guess this is the price of being a successful poster devoted to TRUTH and FACTS.

Bammy's inflated sense of importance is cute and typical of the Politically Correct mentality.

Another GetUp! Hillsong Revivalist Indoctrination Session is required.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #11 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 9:42am
 
Bam wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:58am:
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:52am:
No surprise Labor and the unions are spinning in ever decreasing circles as Armageddon approaches!!!!

And Jacqui Lambie has them hanging on suspenders!!!

I will hold you to the same standard as these laws.

I'm going to go through your posting history and report every personal attack you make and keep doing so until you are banned - PERMANENTLY.

It's only fair.


Please don't do that Bam, what will we do for a laugh if you break up the moron and the flea comedy team. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #12 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 10:19am
 
macman wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 9:42am:
Bam wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:58am:
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:52am:
No surprise Labor and the unions are spinning in ever decreasing circles as Armageddon approaches!!!!

And Jacqui Lambie has them hanging on suspenders!!!

I will hold you to the same standard as these laws.

I'm going to go through your posting history and report every personal attack you make and keep doing so until you are banned - PERMANENTLY.

It's only fair.


Please don't do that Bam, what will we do for a laugh if you break up the moron and the flea comedy team. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Why have rules if they are not enforced? The amount of stuff some get away with, you would think they were protected species. Maybe juliar pays bribes? We know that's SOP for the Liberal party.
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Reply #13 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:56pm
 
Poor upset disillusioned Bammy is working up to another big HATE SESSION. It takes his mind off how his HERO Shifty Shorten betrayed him.

In the mean time ScoMo is entertaining Jacqui and Pauline in grande style to get them on board. Bet they both have the hands out for whatever they can get.

The worried unions are tying themselves in knots trying to undo this big knot that is being tied in the Senate.

Exciting times ahead. Which union will be first to cop an on the spot fine ?
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Reply #14 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 7:07pm
 
Everyone should be opposed to this ridiculous partisan legislation.

This is the gruberment kicking people who don't agree with them just because they don't agree with them.

It is purely politically motivated legislation that only serves to damage Australia.

There is nothing ambiguous about this is is just a terrible thing to do.

I sometimes wish that Labor were as mean and nasty in this way but we know that the next Labor government will not be pushing through legislation aimed at damaging Liberal party groups just out of spite, shame that.

Had Labor been willing to escalate this type of attack it may make the rotten nasty Liberal baboons think twice in the future.
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