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Nov 12th, 2019 at 5:02am
 
What workers really think about their superannuation payments

Many workers don’t bother thinking about their superannuation savings but that doesn’t mean they don’t want it. A new study shows what they want.

November 10, 2019
News.com.au


Young adults and low-income earners have a clear message for those wanting to fiddle with Australia’s retirement saving rules: Leave our super alone.

Amid calls by some politicians to halt the rise of compulsory superannuation and let low-income workers take their super as extra income instead, a new survey suggests employees are savvier than many might think.

Only one quarter would rather have the money now than in their super, according to the Essential Research survey commissioned by the Australian Institute of Superannuation Trustees.

And just one in 10 disagree with the government policy of lifting compulsory employer super payments to 12 per cent of wages by 2025.

The current rate of 9.5 per cent is set to rise to 10 per cent in July 2021.


Independent think tank the Grattan Institute is against lifting the super guarantee to 12 per cent, as is a group of Coalition politicians.

And Liberal senator Andrew Bragg wants super to be voluntary for workers earning less than $50,000 and to allow their employer contributions to be refunded.

The Federal Government says it has no plans to change the 12 per cent target.

However, all facets of super are likely to be examined in the retirement income review currently under way.





Australian Institute of Superannuation Trustees CEO Eva Scheerlinck said the survey suggested a significant number of young workers and low-income earners were worried about having enough money in retirement.

“There is no justification for excluding any worker from benefiting from 12 per cent super, but it is particularly important for people on low incomes, those working part-time or those who have taken time out of paid work as carers,” she said.

The age pension currently pays a maximum of $933.40 per fortnight to a single or $1407 a fortnight to a couple.

Every $5000 someone has in superannuation is enough to boost their retirement income by $200 a fortnight for a year.

Ms Scheerlinck said people were unconvinced by claims that freezing compulsory super would deliver them a pay rise.

“It is farcical to assume, as some MPs have suggested, that workers will receive a pay rise if the SG is frozen,” she said.

Wealth on Track principal Steve Greatrex said putting a lid on super rises so employers could pay higher wages was “impractical”.

“The truth is a lot of employers won’t pay them more,” he said.

“At least if it’s in the superannuation system people have rights.”

Mr Greatrex said low-income workers needed super to improve their retirement just as much as others.

“We are a wealthy country and it’s a good way of sharing the wealth around more evenly.

Super fund fees have been under fire for being among the highest in the world, but Mr Greatrex said there was pressure from regulators to cut costs for members.

“We read about high-fee funds, but there’s a lot of funds out there that are competitive,” he said.
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Reply #1 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:47am
 
Unfortunately the super guarantee will not go up under this mob of aceholes. The only thing that will go up is parliamentry salaries and allowances.
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Reply #2 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:03am
 
The silly old BlackDay has Compulsive Posting Disorder.

He feels a compulsive need to keep re-posting the same silly rubbish about 30 times to try to fill the aching hole in his unwell mind.  Is he going senile ? Is he suffering posting fatigue ?

Or is he just neurotically fearful of his Newstart ?
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Reply #3 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:15am
 
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:03am:
The silly old BlackDay has Compulsive Posting Disorder.

He feels a compulsive need to keep re-posting the same silly rubbish about 30 times to try to fill the aching hole in his unwell mind.  Is he going senile ? Is he suffering posting fatigue ?

Or is he just neurotically fearful of his Newstart ?

The hypocrisy in the quoted post is enormous.
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Reply #4 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:18am
 
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Ms Scheerlinck said people were unconvinced by claims that freezing compulsory super would deliver them a pay rise.

“It is farcical to assume, as some MPs have suggested, that workers will receive a pay rise if the SG is frozen,” she said.

The SG has been frozen for the entire term of this government and wage rises have been at record low levels for much of this time. It is wishful thinking to suggest that workers will receive pay rises with a frozen SG.
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Reply #5 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:23am
 
Bammy is really angry as Labor slips further under as they rip their innards out trying to work out why the voters shoved them into the garbage.

And Shifty Shorty swore at a Lib staffer. Shorty is coming apart at the seams. Will Chloe divorce him ?

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The pressure is getting to Shattered old Shorty.

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Reply #6 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:59am
 
Yep, needs to go to at least 12%.

I salary sacrificed into my super and I am very glad that I did so.  Cool

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Reply #7 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:13am
 
Capt N, ignoring your Greeny errors, If someone has a bit of financial acumen they can invest the money themselves and be clear of the Super leeches who usually do a lousy job of investing.

The money in the hand is more use to poorer people than wasting it in some poorly performing Super company. And those poorer people usually get a pension at the end anyway.

Labor wants to increase super to pour your money into Industrial Super to feed the almost bankrupt unions with no members anymore.
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Reply #8 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 3:24pm
 
My super was raped and pillaged for years by the super thieves.

Insurance scams, administration fees etc etc.

only the last 18 years have I really started putting serious money away.
That and the negotiated 15% company contribution and my percentage to bring my contributions to the max "allowed".

If the grubberment was serious they would allow me to put more into super so I could support myself better into retirement.
As it is, I put a shiteload into other investments which I cannot add to my super.

The politicians and senior public serve us don't have this problem.
Retiring on a guaranteed indexed pension, they live comfortably into their greed ridden retirement.

Our very own super creep, john "the coward" howard spends nearly $1,000,000.00 a year in his over funded retirement.
I just wish he would drop dead and let the world be a better place with his passing.

and he can then live for eternity in the deepest depths of hell.
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Reply #9 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 3:41pm
 
Valkie wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
My super was raped and pillaged for years by the super thieves.

Insurance scams, administration fees etc etc.

only the last 18 years have I really started putting serious money away.
That and the negotiated 15% company contribution and my percentage to bring my contributions to the max "allowed".

If the grubberment was serious they would allow me to put more into super so I could support myself better into retirement.
As it is, I put a shiteload into other investments which I cannot add to my super.

The politicians and senior public serve us don't have this problem.
Retiring on a guaranteed indexed pension, they live comfortably into their greed ridden retirement.


Our very own super creep, john "the coward" howard spends nearly $1,000,000.00 a year in his over funded retirement.
I just wish he would drop dead and let the world be a better place with his passing.

and he can then live for eternity in the deepest depths of hell.


If you like the benefits public servants and politicians receive, why don't you become one yourself?

It doesn't matter how stupid or evil you are, anyone can become a politician.

Exhibits A, B and C:


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Reply #10 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 3:41pm:
It doesn't matter how stupid or evil you are, anyone can become a politician.






What explains your evil and your stupidity, Turd?


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Reply #11 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 3:41pm:
It doesn't matter how stupid or evil you are, anyone can become a politician.






What explains your evil and your stupidity, Turd?




Are you blind ? there is a big picture full of it.
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Reply #12 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:44pm
 
Frank is not too impressed with the old Gweggy who specializes in FAKE NEWS and thinks the unions are still run by Pommy Shop Stewards.
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Reply #13 - Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:20pm
 
juliar wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Frank is not too impressed with the old Gweggy who specializes in FAKE NEWS and thinks the unions are still run by Pommy Shop Stewards.

Is anyone but coprophiliacs like miam-miaming Karnal impressed by Turd?

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