The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:



You really are stupid. I didn't say that. Is major the same as worse? You seem to be trying to pick nits.

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:


According to BoM it is. "Rainfall deficiencies 6 months"

I know its hard for you all to cope with - but you're all pretty right.

Yes... its because of
A Drought spell (rained very well after 2011 in Rural NSW for a number of years) since 2016 (although Farmers still call drought even when it rains heavily).

Eucalyptus - that need 'Fire' to germinate, along with other species.

The good Rain years since 2011 growing a lot of 'scrub' undergrowth.
Whitey Politicians (the Green ones too) - not burning it back to any great 'extreme' of effort.
Aboriginals not doing their 40,000 year tried and tested 'Smoking Ceremonies' ( ) of consistent 'small-mini-burns' that left Forests with nothing but 'grass' for the Roos, Emus, etc.

Area just up the road has been back-burned by Whitey. It got rid of the scrub undergrowth, but now the floor of the Bush is just all leaves, twigs and branches (no grass for Roos who come into Surburban lawns for grass) - untouched and ready to fuel a Wild-Fire.

We must just accept that the Chinese Economy (the Cashed-Up One) and USA Economy (the Cashless One) - is way more important than paying people here to consistently keep Australia 'in check'.

...Because Whitey's next step is to cut down all the trees and turn Australia into the Middle-East (no fires there).

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2019 at 8:32pm:


That's exactly what they're saying ... the drought is caused by climate change therefore it's the main reason for the fires.

Of course it's bad land management ... local & state govts lock up the land .... a lot of it formally leased & used by graziers to run cattle .... the cattle also keep that fuel load down.

And in a time of drought wouldn't you think it a good idea to allow grazing starving stock in our National Parks & State Forests when there is no feed anywhere else?

As for the small windows of opportunity for slow burn hazard reduction .... Rangers know that & so do private landowners .....

yet govt depts pussy foot around for weeks/months approving permits ... and by the time they are issued it's to late.

That's exactly what caused the devastation in fires last year north of Bundaberg to Bororen.

There was rain 6 to 8 weeks prior that made conditions ideal .... but the permits did not come until too late.

That's bad management.

Who's really being disingenuous. 

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 14^th, 2019 at 4:07am:


Well durrrrh......

and in general that's common knowledge... and most people are.

living in a forest has it's risks.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2019 at 8:17am:


All levels of government assume they are above the law...... it's part of the disease of this nation...

Told yez - we need a Milagro solution - just open the taps and let 'er run... NOBODY owns water that falls naturally from the sky... if all those farmers revolted, what are they going to do to them?

"Joe Mondragon, a feisty hustler with a talent for trouble, slammed his battered pickup to a stop, tugged on his gumboots, and marched into the arid patch of ground. Carefully (and also illegally), he tapped into the main irrigation channel. And so began-though few knew it at the time-the Milagro beanfield war. But like everything else in the dirt-poor town of Milagro, it would be a patchwork war, fought more by tactical retreats than by battlefield victories. Gradually, the small farmers and sheepmen begin to rally to Joe's beanfield as the symbol of their lost rights and their lost lands. And downstate in the capital, the Anglo water barons and power brokers huddle in urgent conference, intent on destroying that symbol before it destroys their multimillion-dollar land-development schemes. The tale of Milagro's rising is wildly comic and lovingly terrrifying, a vivid portrayal of a town that, half-stumbling and partly prodded, gropes its way toward its own stubborn salvation."

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39242.The_Milagro_Beanfield_War

Unlock The Watergates!!  Lock the Gates!!

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2019 at 8:17am:


I say, dear, are you saying the "noble capitalist" should have his private property regulated by the government?

Which authority initiated the release of valuable water?

I'm curious. Let's find out if they really are avocado latte-sipping intellectual Greens.

The Green are really being deadschits regarding the fires.

Greens MP Adam Bandt has blamed the unprecedented bushfires and “catastrophic” fire risk across two states on climate change, and even suggested Prime Minister Scott Morrison is partly responsible due to the government’s lack of action.

So lets see, Australia produces 1% of the worlds greenhouse gasses so even if in the last year since Morrison has been PM he personally 100% stopped Australia from using any fossil fuels, there'd be basically no difference.

Then you have to factor in what actual % AGW is having on the current situation.

I believe it's a factor, but mostly what we're experiencing is all within the cyclical range of the conditions.

So how much blame should Scott Morrison get for the fires? Would love to see the Greens express that as a percentage.

What's going on here are the Greens are being total and using a tragedy for political mileage.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/row-erupts-over-bu...