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Reply #30 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:22pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:06pm:
Anthony Albanese is in the same mould as Kim Beazley....Decent honest men who lack charisma and a killer instinct....People just do not think these blokes are tough enough to do the job IMO???

Huh Huh Huh


Which is kinda ridiculous really. Why do they need to be so tough? Good policies should be all they need (and neither party has those anymore).

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Policies are what brought Labor undone....People do not care about anything but themselves....Politicians tell us how bad the other bloke is and what the other side do will be catastrophic, apocalyptic a disaster...ect so the public expect a tough leader who will make the hard decisions despite most of the hyperbole being bullshit....Public perception is everything to a politician and Albo seams a bit too left and weak to ever become PM???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #31 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:25pm
 
juliar wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:40am:


Interesting that Australians voted against a fair go - well they certainly didn't get one. Probably what they deserve. A corrupt 2nd rate government that has nothing to offer.

The Libs go to elections standing on their poor economic credentials and the majority of voters do not understand that it is a joke.

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Reply #32 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:43pm
 
Ho Juliars opinion on Labor ?

Useless dribble.

Labor will likely be well positioned in 2022. All the Liberal lies will come to fruition. We have the good economic managers with an economy falling to bits.

We had the RBA bailing out the economy a week after the election of a government standing on their economic credentials.

It's got me stuffed how Labor allow the Libs to stand on their economic credentials when it is their biggest area of failure.
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Reply #33 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:44pm
 
It was only a short while ago the enthusiastic Lefties worshiped the ground Shorty walked on.

DNA mistakes that my opinion is based on the opinions of well versed journos. So he condemns them too ?
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Reply #34 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:16pm
 
But now the conspiracies grow like weeds in the garden enveloping Albo. Will the unions abandon him ? Will Sad Sack Shorten be returned to lead Labor in Opposition for the next 30 years ?



What did Albo know and when did he know it? Labor rift grows amid leaks and whispers
Samantha Maiden 11:20pm, Nov 10, 2019 Updated: 11:30pm, Nov 10

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Anthony Albanese claims have spawned leaks and whispers from party insiders. Photo: AAP

Anthony Albanese never raised concerns in shadow cabinet prior to the election about reforms to franking credits hitting pensioners, according to Labor colleagues who have questioned his claim there was no election campaign committee and no strategy.

Divisions within the Labor Party have deepened in the wake of a damning review into the ALP campaign that found the campaign was devoid of strategy, failed to respond to the leadership change to Scott Morrison and weighed down by an unpopular leader.

“Given the chaos on the other side of politics, this is an election that we should have won,” Mr Albanese said on Sunday.

But Labor frontbenchers confirm Mr Albanese did not oppose the plan to abolish franking credit refunds prior to the election.

“I don’t remember him saying anything at the time,” a Labor MP said.

Shorten education promise. Anthony Albanese says he wasn’t part of Bill Shorten’s inner circle

The Labor leader said on Sunday he would make an announcement in due course on whether the policy would be junked or simply grandfathered so it only applied to future investors.

“Clearly, franking credits was an issue during the election campaign, and it’s one which blindsided some people,” he said.

“And clearly, that feedback came through during the election.

“I had one woman say to me she was concerned about her pension. I said, “Well, pensioners won’t be affected.” And I asked her if she had any shares, and she said, “No, I don’t have any shares.”

Any decision to axe or trim the franking credit reforms is expected to force the ALP to also trim promises to restore billions of dollars of Gonski schools funding.

Asked on the ABC’s Insiders program whether he realised, as a member of shadow cabinet, that there was ‘no strategy’, Mr Albanese pointed out he was not a member of the leadership group, which consisted of Bill Shorten, Tanya Plibersek, Penny Wong, Don Farrell, Chris Bowen and Brendan O’Connor.

“Well certainly, I wasn’t aware that there wasn’t a campaign committee, but I wasn’t a member of the leadership group that was making those decisions,” he said.

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Fear of franking credits being scrapped weighed heavily on seniors. Photo: Getty

The ALP review found that “no formal campaign committee was established, creating no forum for formulating an effective strategy or for receiving reports evaluating progress against the strategy.”

But Labor frontbenchers disputed Mr Albanese’s claim there was no campaign committee at all, pointing to the Strategic Working Group, which they said operated as a campaign committee.

The group consisted of ALP campaign director Noah Carrol, the assistant secretary Paul Erickson, Labor leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek, ALP President Wayne Swan and Queensland Senator Anthony Chisholm.

However, underlining the fact the criticism in the ALP review is largely accurate, The New Daily understands the committee only met from September 2018 to March 2019 and did not continue to hold formal meetings during the election campaign.

Some Labor officials also maintain the leadership group did sign off on election campaign strategy documents, despite the ALP review report’s claim they do not exist.

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Mr Albanese said he did raise concerns during the election campaign about feedback from the electorate.

“In the last week, for example, I went to Corangamite, and I went across to Perth, to Swan, where Hannah Beazley was the candidate, because I was concerned that we weren’t doing as well as the published polls were showing,” he said.

Mr Albanese also noted he had delivered speeches prior to the election raising concerns that terms used by Labor attacking companies as the “big end of town” was anti-business.

“We have to represent working Australians, but we also have to acknowledge that it is business that employs those working Australians as well. And we need to be inclusive, rather than divisive, in our language,” he said.

Asked if Labor made a mistake by not switching leaders earlier, he replied that you ‘can’t change history’.

“No, look – caucus made that decision and we were united, and that was one of our strengths that for six years. People worked as a cohesive unit,” he said.

“You can’t change history, and I think that we put the rules in place as well to make sure that people didn’t have to worry about internals.

“We learned the lessons of the Rudd and Gillard years. Bill Shorten had six years as leader with a unified party, all working to elect a Shorten Labor government.”

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/11/10/albanese-at-centre-of-labor-...
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Reply #35 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 11:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
Ho Juliars opinion on Labor ?

Useless dribble.

Labor will likely be well positioned in 2022. All the Liberal lies will come to fruition. We have the good economic managers with an economy falling to bits.

We had the RBA bailing out the economy a week after the election of a government standing on their economic credentials.

It's got me stuffed how Labor allow the Libs to stand on their economic credentials when it is their biggest area of failure.

Labor won't make that mistake again.

The last election had a lot in common with the 1980 and 1993 elections. Both of these elections saw oppositions taking a bold agenda to the election with increases to taxation as a prominent policy that the government was able to exploit to retain office. Both elections were followed by changes of government at the next election due to economic issues. Could the next election follow this same path?
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Reply #36 - Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:14am
 
Poor distraught Bammy is like a broken record - Labor will return - Labor will return....

His HERO Shifty Shorten really devastated him when he betrayed him.

In the mean time ScoMo smiles as Albo helps him daily. Albo has become a disciple of ScoMo and is trying to copy all of scoMo's election winning policies and shoving the greeny junk policies into the garbage where the voters put Labor at the election.

Labor will be in Opposition for the next 20 years as the voters have long memories of Labor's six sick years of Socialist waste and disgrace and shame and of course RESTART the BOATS!!!!
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