freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:17pm:


freediver wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 7:24pm:


Pot confesses sins of kettle ...

Aussie wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 8:10pm:


So laf. A single post or a half dozen, what difference does it make? A quote bomb is a quote bomb.

Aussie wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 7:24pm:


You've gotta admit it's fricking hilarious watching Mothra with her hatred of the "patriarchy", "toxic masculinity", "rape culture", etc stick up for cultures like Islam or "traditional" aboriginal culture with a straight face. As long as it's not the culture she lives in, it's all OK, I mean it'd be racist not to, yeah? More than OK, it should be respected, admired, treasured. As soon as it's the culture she lives in being discussed, it's toxic. I'll leave the rationality and sanity of a person that can hold two opposing views like that open to dispute. The doublethink, the cognitive dissonance is very strong with Kaiju.

AiA wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 11:49pm:


Why would you think that?

Edit: I suppose it might depend on how you worded it but the idea put forward should not be a problem.

AiA wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 1:01am:


Perhaps if you didn't make it personal. I haven't. It's possible to make the point that she's not overly interested in rape outside of her culture without making it personal. She is just a one of the herd of "independent" minds. Actually she was asking what the next pejorative she and hers might be called after SJW etc. Minds that think they are independently thinking but really are not. They cluster together, you see them at work here all the time, so much so that others think they are the same person.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 11:45pm:


The same reasons I couldn't watch Q&A on Monday night.

A panel full of Mothras.

Good point Pedro. The rates of substance abuse, preventable disease, STD's in children, domestic violence etc in remote communities is a national shame. Why do you think feminists work so hard to maintain this culture?

And where have all the white feminists gone, with their smug sense of superiority? How are we to know what Aboriginal women think without Mothra to tell us?

Spot

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 7:32am:


Why would these Boong women want Mothra, FD, when they can have a spokesperson like you?

They could do worse, you know. You've expressed their drunkeness, STDs and culture of rape and paedophilia. You've exposed their property rights (they don't own it because they don't) and their willingness to live like elephants in a zoo (you changed it from apes to capture their indigenous voice more authentically). You've shared their desire to climb the rock one day (if they could be bothered driving three days through all that boring scenery). You even insist on using their own language to describe their number one tourist attraction: "Ayers Rock".

You've succinctly captured their wish to die out and leave Australia to the superior white man. You've certainly expressed their sense of inherent inferiority. Sure, they invented a stick, but where's their Parthenons and Colusseums? As you say, if it wasn't for Whitey, they wouldn't even have booze, the only thing that keeps their backward, dysfunctional communities together. You've spoken out for years about their wish to move to the city, blend in with the rest of us and do a decent day's work for once.

I think you should be their spokesperson. You can spread their views on sites like this and use their voice to shame the leftards into silence, as you've successfully done with Mothra.

Freeeeedom, innit.

I'll have to run that one past FD, Gordon. He's the spokesperson.

FD?

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 1:46pm:


Assimilation takes too long, Gordon.

you still havent defined what "culture" is...

no good talking about moving on  if it means carrying forward caveman ethics...that prevent women climbing the rock..

dont you understand some women  not all mind you   are angry about  this

we were told by Bill we live in an equal society thanks to the labor party and its 40/ 60%...equality..

in fav of MEN of course...

well read ALMOST equal....

and this 'cultural" event , the closing of the rock climb has now exposed a terrible misogynistic  attitude..

How can mothra speak for aboriginal women is she black?

Agnes wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:





mmmmm

we may of course define that comment as racist agnes..

the B word hasnt been mentioned...fd made sure of that....mothra speak well of the anangu females..

Quote:



sadly she doesnt mention where these spaces are or what is involved..more secret womens business maybe....

all I hoped for was bringing our indigenous friends up to date and into the 21st century...however mothra sees thing different to I..

wow I did not mean to speak in a racist way--

shame shame agnes.... we live in tough times...

you do know we are not alone dont you??..

cods wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 3:07pm:


Complete BS.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 6:06pm:


My wife and I are equal in ironing. Nothing needs ironing so it's not done. I can iron though, I used to to it for mum.

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 8:08pm:


Do you think the future will be kind to the ones who at the behest of dogooders remain as professional Abos doing dot paintings and welcome to country ceremonies?

Should they be skilled up to do other things?

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 8:34pm:


So boonglets shouldn't get an education to fall back on, just in case they don't make it in the dot art scene?

Setanta wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:



A lot of them are stunning. They can be very beautiful.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 8:52pm:


Again, eye of the beholder. I should take some pics of my wife's art and post it, see what you think.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 6:06pm:




IMAGE.....



Guy at the back, with the placard....."IRON MY SHIRT!"

Never met a chick who can stack the dishwasher properly.

No spatial awareness.

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 9:44pm:


They are out there !

.....but yes, they are rare.       [on my own now.]




Never had a dishwasher [machine] though.
....a micro wave oven, neither.

Setanta wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:


I'm pretty sure my wife stacks it in a manner that makes me want to take control and absolve her of the job.

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:



They are a cunning gender.       

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 11:45pm:



I have never defended inequality, oppression or repression. Not once. Not under any circumstance.

And i'll bet the farm i do a great deal more to combat it than you.

I just don't think everyone who is religious is beneath me ... as you do.

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


On the bus to Dubbo?

I don't think they can, Gordon. Better stick with plan A, dear.

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 1:09am:


Oh Mother, thank God you're back. FD's having a right old meltdown, Setanta doesn't know much about art (but he knows what he likes) and Gordon's going to retrain the Boongs if he can catch a few. Domestic duties, I think.

FD's culture, you see, invented a dishwasher. Your Boong invented a stick.

You'd better stop apologising for them, dear. FD will put you to work.

Sink's full. Chop chop.

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 1:07am:


Of course not dear, you just ignore it in other cultures and admire and support the culture. You're not a culturalist, that'd be racist.

Making judgemental claims now too, who'd have thought. I wonder... Am I beneath you? Who is beneath you dear? Anyone?

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 1:28am:


Why can't we all just get along! You think that sums it up and I think this sums you up. The world is so unfair.

Setanta wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 1:59am:



Not at all. But as i have no concern whatsoever for what you think of me or anything i do, i'll leave you to fume into your screen.

Goodnight.

Setanta wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 1:59am:




only if its a "cultural" thingy...

then its ok..

its what the women "want"  so I am led to believe 

Gee - those Aboriginals are such an oppressed people by the Whiteys.
They had to forgo their stroke/x-ray style painting to take up the Whitey's 'Dot' style to make a quid. All aboriginal paintings now look like the skin of a Goanna from Goa.

Gordon wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 9:44pm:


Yep ... my wife is a trimmer at that. 

Gnads wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 8:17am:




where will the trannies tee off do you think?...


goodness me   when it comes to the mixed foursomes
...trannies could make the mix....

what handicap will they have do you think???

Not enough options... I'm left to go with the all-encompassing term 'woman' - meaning one who forgets, changes like the wind, lives without reason, and has an overwhelming need to dominate by force or by abuse...

Even 'Chopper' Reid said women were schizophrenics ... and I'll bet plenty of them slept with him.. (Jesus)...

cods wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 6:08am:



There are plenty of things tha are cultural that i stand in opposition to, Cods. Female Genital Cutting, for example.

But that is not to say that where culture, particularly of First Peoples,  can exist as part of the fabric that makes up our society can not be nurtured and respected.

Much is made over particularly nasty minds on this forum (and elsewhere) regarding the superiority of certain cultures., ours in particular. The subtext to this is of course that other cultures must cede to us and assimilate.

I am more of the opinion that all cultures have elements of tremendous worth and areas that can certainly be problematic. The trick, i think in life in general, is to observe and listen. This way enables expansion and growth. It is what successful humans have always done and is precisely the mechanism by whuich throughout history, cultures that have come into contact with other cultures have advanced while those that have remained secluded have tended not to. That of course is not to say that there is not tremendous worth in cultures that appear unsophisticated to the simple minded.

Even cultures that have problematic elements have elements within them from which we can learn and grow.

I utterly reject labels of superiority. I find them monumentally dangerous, not to mention profoundly regressive.

No culture is all good or all bad.  I resent the implication that i defend something purely because it is cultural.  What's more, it evidences that you don't understand a word i'm saying. Sadly, i don;t think you ever will ... be it through willingness or otherwise.

mothra wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 4:33pm:


You acquiescing to that name change speaks volumes ...... in the main it's FGM.

Yeah that may be true ... but what's problematic needs to be nipped in the bud ...so to clitorally speak.   

Taking the best parts doesn't mean wholesale acceptance of everything ......

which by watching your responses over several years ..... means exactly that.

Resent all you like but that's what you do.

Gnads wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 6:09pm:


No it's not, Gnads. It never has been. I've tried pointing that out to you lot loads of times ... as have all the others who have their ideas assigned to them by the very low base that prevails here.

It suits you to see those of us who challenge you as amalgams of all of the things you are railing against. So simplistic are your arguments, you cannot accommodate nuance.

I've rarely seen my views repeated correctly here. I'm simply assigned a persona.

The thing that mainly irks me about the lefty intellectual elite types when it comes to a discussion of western culture is there complete lack of gratitude for what western culture has given them.

As they wake up in the morning and head to the kitchen they should bow before the refrigerator
They should get down on their knees and weep tears of joy that's strong noble competent western men laboured and toiled. To provide them with the means by which they would always have an abundance of fresh food

That is so rare in the history of humankind
It's a bloody miracle

The lefty intellectual elite types simply fails to acknowledge just how much of our marvellous western culture works magnificently
You don't notice things that work until they don't work
Until there is a black out or a bridge collapses
You just remain ungrateful for these things

And the lefty intellectual elites are so mind-numbingly dumb that they just take all these things for granted

So I would put a challenge to mothra to fall to her knees before her refrigerator I give thanks to all those marvelous white western men who sacrificed themselves to provide her with the spectacular level of wealth that she takes for granted