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Asked on Q&A "How many rapists must we kill?"
Nov 6^th, 2019 at 10:16pm

On Q&A [QANDA] titled, 'Broadside', broadcast nationally, in Australia, on 2019-Nov-04

"How many rapists must we kill? Not the state, because I disagree with the death penalty..."

- MONA ELTAHAWY - invited panellist

Q. "When trying to bring about significant change, when is aggression and violence a better option than assertiveness, strong arguments and modelling the behaviour you expect of others?.....

A. When none of that other stuff works."

- MURRAY SAUNDER and ASHTON APPLEWHITE

Hosted by Fran Kelly...

Q&A [QANDA] titled, 'Broadside', broadcast nationally, in Australia, on 2019-Nov-04

TRANSCRIPT....
https://www.abc.net.au/qanda/2019-04-11/11646878

There are problems in Australian society.

Problems of violence, rape, and inequality.

So what should Australian activists do to 'combat' those problems ?

Well, the invited panellists on QANDA believe that Australian activists who want to build a better Australian society, should, maybe, kill those people who they perceive as being the cause of their problems !

And also, Australian activists, maybe, need to 'burn stuff' !

And the host, Fran Kelly, didn't even say "Boo!!!", to such suggestions, from her invited panellists on QANDA.

Quote:

FRAN KELLY

Hello and welcome to Q&A. I’m Fran Kelly, and tonight, we’re in Melbourne collaborating with the Wheeler Centre’s Broadside festival. On our panel,
anti-ageism author Ashton Applewhite,
Egyptian-American feminist Mona Eltahawy,
businesswoman and social change agent Hana Assafiri,
Indigenous screenwriter and activist Nayuka Gorrie,
and Jess Hill, whose latest work is challenging old assumptions about male violence.
Please welcome our panel.

And Q&A is coming to you live across eastern Australia on ABC TV, and across the nation on iview and NewsRadio.....

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when is aggression and violence a better option
When none of that other stuff works.
I want patriarchy to fear feminism. And there is a chapter in my book on violence.
For me, as a feminist the most important thing is to destroy patriarchy.
How many rapists must we kill? Not the state, because I disagree with the death penalty
As a woman I’m asking, how many rapists must we kill until men stop raping us?

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MURRAY SAUNDER

Thanks, Fran. When trying to bring about significant change, when is aggression and violence a better option than assertiveness, strong arguments and modelling the behaviour you expect of others?

FRAN KELLY

Ashton?

ASHTON APPLEWHITE

When none of that other stuff works.

FRAN KELLY

It’s as simple as that?

ASHTON APPLEWHITE

Yep.

MONA ELTAHAWY

I have an answer for this that a lot of people do not like. I want patriarchy to fear feminism. And there is a chapter in my book on violence. There is a chapter in my book about white women who voted for Trump and white women who accept crumbs from patriarchy because they allow their whiteness to trump their gender. I’m fully aware of this. But at the end of the day, even those white women have to recognise that nothing protects them from patriarchy.

Nothing. For me, as a feminist the most important thing is to destroy patriarchy. And all of this talk about how, if you talk about violence, you’re just becoming like the men. So, your question is a really important one but I’m going to answer it with another question. How long must we wait for men and boys to stop murdering us, to stop beating us and to stop raping us? How many rapists must we kill? Not the state, because I disagree with the death penalty and I want to get rid of incarceration and I’m with you on the police. So I want women themselves... As a woman I’m asking, how many rapists must we kill until men stop raping us?

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I think violence is OK
so, yeah, let’s burn stuff.

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NAYUKA GORRIE

So I’m thinking about, you know, a colony, we live in a colony. We’ve tried for 230-plus years to appeal to the colonisers’ morality which doesn’t seem to exist. I think violence, yeah, I think violence is OK because if someone is trying to kill you, there’s no amount of, “Oh, but I’m really clever.” You know, “I’m really articulate.” No amount of that is going to save you, so, yeah, let’s burn stuff.

MORE....

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #1 - Nov 6^th, 2019 at 10:18pm

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, we are living in a constant state of duress
We experience violence from so many different types of systems.
I wonder what our kind of tipping point in Australia’s going to be when people are going to start burning stuff.
I look forward to it.

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NAYUKA GORRIE

If I can just jump in, Mona. So, I’m thinking I just want to bring this conversation back to the land that we’re on, Australia, whatever. Like, we live in a colonial state and I think for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, we are living in a constant state of duress. We experience violence from so many different types of systems. We experience it interpersonally.

When you say violence begets violence, there’s something kind of... It’s almost sounding like it’s like a level playing field which it’s not. It’s absolutely not. So I think if you’re defending yourself, then I’m surprised. I wonder what our kind of tipping point in Australia’s going to be when people are going to start burning stuff. I look forward to it.

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we’ve heard about so many instances of male violence against women,
kill men
when I talk about imaginary violence against men, everyone’s like, “Oh, my God! Mona wants us to kill men,”

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MONA ELTAHAWY

Hm! Ha! You know, I find it really fascinating that we’ve heard about so many instances of male violence against women, real incidents, whether it’s disabled women or women in domestic abuse of all forms of abilities, and yet when I talk about imaginary violence against men, everyone’s like, “Oh, my God! Mona wants us to kill men,” and I’m just asking you to imagine a scenario that is the daily reality for women everywhere.

I agree with you that, yes, the gender binary is long overdue – let’s get rid of it, bugger the gender binary, yes – but we are also talking about a society that socialises boys and men into believing that they are entitled to women’s time, bodies, love, affection. In the United States, that has a direct impact into boys as young as 16 going into school and shooting to death half their class because a girl said no.

FRAN KELLY

So what would positive masculinity look like?

MONA ELTAHAWY

I have no smacking idea.

Lets start fires this summer eh ?

Yeah, that will really annoy white Australia !!

"Burn" stuff and "Kill" people.

Those are the tactics which LEFTISTS activists in Australia, seem to be justifying and encouraging.

And they are doing it, on the Australian, TAXPAYER funded, national TV broadcaster, the ABC.

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NOT ON QANDA.....

"Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance have defended Ms Tarneen Onus-Williams

The 24-year-old said on Friday she wanted Australia to 'burn to the ground'"

Another Aboriginal activist, in 2018, who is advocating to....

"BURN AUSTRALIA TO THE GROUND".

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1548479876/90#90

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Asked on Q&A "How many rapists must we kill?"
Reply #2 - Nov 6^th, 2019 at 11:17pm

QUESTION;
Incitement to violence and to murder, and incitement to arson,
is such incitement OK if it comes, ...if it is broadcast by the LEFTIST ABC, on QANDA,
as 'a discussion about violence and inequality' ?
.....and, where the victims of such violent acts, are identified as being the ideological enemies of LEFTISTS ?

This is Australia, ....2019.

We should be ashamed.

LAWLESSNESS, serves only the devil.

"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand."

Proverbs 14:34
Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Asked on Q&A "How many rapists must we kill?"
Reply #3 - Nov 6^th, 2019 at 11:30pm

LAWLESSNESS, serves only the devil.

Isaiah 48:22
There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.

Isaiah 57:21
There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Isaiah 3:12
As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
13 The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.

Isaiah 1:4
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Asked on Q&A "How many rapists must we kill?"
Reply #4 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 6:21am

Feminists are allowed to be "violent" yadda.....at least these would be rapists know where they stand if they try anything with a feminist...

a man has been charged with manslaughter after he chased and killed a man who robbed him........

I think it might be wishful thinking on behalf of these women.. Wink

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Reply #5 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 9:22am

cods wrote on Nov 7^th, 2019 at 6:21am:

I'm AAA OK with whatever follows, in a case of legitimate self defence [on being threatened or attacked], cods.
....and i would assume 90% of people in our society would be.

cods wrote on Nov 7^th, 2019 at 6:21am:

I think it might be wishful thinking on behalf of these women.. Wink

Women can be sneaky cods ! Wink

Just look at how Delilah behaved. Wink

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #7 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 3:03pm

Super Nova wrote on Nov 7^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

Serial Rapists - kill them all

Single incident - Jail

And those who incite widespread arson [as a form of indigenous 'activist protest'], during the Australian summer ?

nova,

What does a box of matches cost someone, if their desire is 'to burn down the house' ?

WE NEED TO MAKE THE COST OF ARSON [and its incitement], ....MUCH, MUCH HIGHER ! ....just my opinion.

".....I wonder what our kind of tipping point in Australia’s going to be when people are going to start burning stuff.
I look forward to it."
- NAYUKA GORRIE

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1573042607/1#1

"BURN AUSTRALIA TO THE GROUND".

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1548479876/90#90

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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