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Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:35pm
 
November 6 2019
'Dropped the ball': Firies union join calls for more cladding transparency   Sad
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The ACT's firefighters union says the location of buildings with potentially flammable cladding should be made public, as it echoed growing calls for an audit of private apartment and commercial complexes.

The United Firefighters Union has joined a chorus of property industry groups and politicians in calling on the government to ramp up its response to growing concerns about the prevalence of combustible cladding on Canberra buildings.


The government has identified about 70 or so buildings which might contain flammable material - but is refusing to say which ones. It has insisted that none of the buildings pose an immediate safety risk and all are safe to occupy.   Sad

The government is also continuing to reject calls for an audit of private buildings, such as high-rise apartment complexes.

Firefighters union branch secretary Greg McConville said the ACT government had "really dropped the ball" in responding to cladding risks.

Mr McConville said that was particularly disappointing given the ACT was among the first jurisdictions to sound the alarm about the emerging problem of combustible cladding almost a decade ago.

He said the government should publish details about at-risk buildings, echoing calls from the Canberra Liberals and ACT Greens.

"Our preference is for disclosure [of the buildings]," Mr McConville said.

"That view is based on a risk management approach. There is a presumption that workers are entitled to know the risks, and that duty of care should extend to visitors and members of the public."

"I don't think you can follow that risk management approach with a veil of secrecy [about the building's location]."   Sad


The NSW government has reportedly refused to publish the locations of more than 400 buildings potentially covered in flammable cladding amid concerns that it could make them a target for arson and terrorist attacks.   Sad

The Canberra Times asked ACT Building Minister Gordon Ramsay if similar concerns informed the decision to keep the findings of the territory government's audit under wraps.

In a statement, a government spokesman said it did not publish details about the buildings for a "variety of reasons and it would be inappropriate to comment further".

Mr McConville said he "didn't accept" claims that publishing a building's location would heighten the risk of an arson attack, arguing that perpetrators could find out if it contained flammable material through other means.

ACT Fire & Rescue has been involved throughout the territory government's audit, meaning it is aware of which public buildings might contain combustible cladding.

But Mr McConville said the government's refusal to proactively inspect apartment and commercial complexes meant firefighters were not aware of the fire risks those buildings might pose.   Sad

"We don't think that's reasonable," he said.

ACT Fire & Rescue chief officer Mark Brown said the agency had developed a training course which taught firefighters how to respond to incidents at buildings might contain flammable cladding.

Mr Brown said that when responding to incidents, fire crews "drew no distinction between public and private buildings and would work with all members of the community to preserve life, property and the environment".

 
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Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:43pm
 
Don't tell anyone.  Its a secret.   Lips Sealed
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Reply #2 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:52pm
 
Silly old BlackDay would not know what day it is.

Maybe the Chinese bribed the unions to buy flammable cladding from China.
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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:55pm
 
So we have an NSW Liberal Government and an ACT Labor government not giving details about cladding but is the feds that are responsible? Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:58pm
 
It stinks of Chinese bribes.
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Reply #5 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 9:36am
 
juliar wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
Silly old BlackDay would not know what day it is.

Maybe the Chinese bribed the unions to buy flammable cladding from China.


Nah it wouldn't take much for scumos tradie nephew to use the cheap chinese flammable crap on a job -  that's if he ever started the job let alone finished it  Cheesy LOL
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Reply #6 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 3:15pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 9:36am:
Nah it wouldn't take much for scumos tradie nephew to use the cheap chinese flammable crap on a job -  that's if he ever started the job let alone finished it


So you are saying that the states should give up their building standards to the feds? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #7 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 3:29pm
 
The reason is hidden in the middle of the article:

The NSW government has reportedly refused to publish the locations of more than 400 buildings potentially covered in flammable cladding amid concerns that it could make them a target for arson and terrorist attacks.
   

Obviously they are worried that muslims will burn places down.
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Reply #8 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:40pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 3:29pm:
The reason is hidden in the middle of the article:

The NSW government has reportedly refused to publish the locations of more than 400 buildings potentially covered in flammable cladding amid concerns that it could make them a target for arson and terrorist attacks.
   

Obviously they are worried that muslims will burn places down.


So it doesn't matter about the people who are living in these death traps? Sounds like the usual bullshite from government as usual.
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macman wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
So it doesn't matter about the people who are living in these death traps? Sounds like the usual bullshite from government as usual.



So you know that those people have been kept in the dark about their buildings? Reference?
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Reply #10 - Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:50pm
 
macman wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 3:29pm:
The reason is hidden in the middle of the article:

The NSW government has reportedly refused to publish the locations of more than 400 buildings potentially covered in flammable cladding amid concerns that it could make them a target for arson and terrorist attacks.
   

Obviously they are worried that muslims will burn places down.


So it doesn't matter about the people who are living in these death traps? Sounds like the usual bullshite from government as usual.



It means that if the buildings burn down that fear of
letting mussie terrorists know about it was the cause.
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Reply #11 - Nov 10th, 2019 at 5:24pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:45pm:
macman wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
So it doesn't matter about the people who are living in these death traps? Sounds like the usual bullshite from government as usual.



So you know that those people have been kept in the dark about their buildings? Reference?


Can you point out where I said that flea? Or are you just sprouting your crap as usual.
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Reply #12 - Nov 10th, 2019 at 5:56pm
 
macman wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Can you point out where I said that flea?



So you admit you know nothing "about the people who are living in these death traps". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #13 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 5:38am
 
It is hard to avoid the obvious conclusion that the Chinese bribed the unions to import flammable cladding from China.
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Reply #14 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 5:35pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 5:56pm:
macman wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Can you point out where I said that flea?



So you admit you know nothing "about the people who are living in these death traps". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


I certainly admit that there are people living in death traps that the governments are covering up. I expect this from your mob but I'm pissed off that labor done the same. As for the rest, yes I admit you know nothing.
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