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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #31 - Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:29pm

Today Official impeachment inquiry into Trump voted to go ahead.

Process outlined etc

i.e. The whistle blower is irrelevant. Interesting that everything he / she reported was true.

Also interesting that it is illegal to expose a whistle blower but the Republicans were desperate to do so.

The impeachment process continues to its eventual conclusion.

We get to see the evidence proving that Trump misused the office of the president for his personal gain on a number of occasions undermining national security in the process.

With the evidence out there and the people aware of the truth we then get to see which republican politicians have any integrity left - or not. My money would be on the or nots.

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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #32 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:53am

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:36am:

Is that the best you've got?

Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public...

We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape.

His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter. Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election.

The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain. This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg

We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different. They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people.

It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people.

We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise. He then fails to deliver on that promise. Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise. Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here.

He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies. And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like?

Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway. You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election. You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored. You don't matter.

There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha... Feel the burn lol...

The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office.

The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate.

That's all that's needed.

Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump. His spell is wearing off.

His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIIa2pYU0AAId_M.jpg

They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach.

But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack.

Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then?

https://i.imgur.com/ciayxXT.jpg

Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying.

That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS.

eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes.

Sad is a victim of TDS!

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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #33 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:59am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Today Official impeachment inquiry into Trump voted to go ahead.

Process outlined etc

i.e. The whistle blower is irrelevant. Interesting that everything he / she reported was true.

Also interesting that it is illegal to expose a whistle blower but the Republicans were desperate to do so.

The impeachment process continues to its eventual conclusion.

We get to see the evidence proving that Trump misused the office of the president for his personal gain on a number of occasions undermining national security in the process.

With the evidence out there and the people aware of the truth we then get to see which republican politicians have any integrity left - or not. My money would be on the or nots.

The rules governing a whistleblowers was changed just 2 months ago by the Dems.

Very convenient!

The Dems are playing political games at the nations expense. They're terrified of Barr's and the IG's report and throwing everything at Trump. But its most likely too late! Grin

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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #34 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:10am

Richdude wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:53am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:36am:

Is that the best you've got?

Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public...

We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape.

His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter. Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election.

The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain. This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg

We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different. They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people.

It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people.

We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise. He then fails to deliver on that promise. Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise. Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here.

He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies. And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like?

Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway. You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election. You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored. You don't matter.

There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha... Feel the burn lol...

The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office.

The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate.

That's all that's needed.

Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump. His spell is wearing off.

His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIIa2pYU0AAId_M.jpg

They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach.

But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack.

Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then?

https://i.imgur.com/ciayxXT.jpg

Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying.

That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS.

eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes.

Sad is a victim of TDS!

The table is very clear, it shows "Manufacturing job losses in battleground states" I never said anything about total employment.

I highlighted that stat because Trump said he was bringing THOSE jobs BACK to America. He hasn't done it. It's a major promise broken and in these states with such a slim margin, and everything else going on, the result of the impeachment enquiry going public is going to hurt his chances in these state.

The only thing that snaps people out of the cult of Trump is personal pain. The Farmers know it, these people know it, and this is a lot of where he got his win from.

How is that a lie? That exactly what is happening.

But again, like every other tard in this thread, you've ignored the question in my post, if what is being said is true about the whistleblower, what next? How does that change anything?

It's as if you lot are so don't have any way left to attack the process and this is your last hope?

"The whistleblower won't testify!!! OMG HOAX!"

Are you sure you really want to force people to testify?

*cough* John Bolton *cough*

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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #35 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:13am

Richdude wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:53am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:36am:

Is that the best you've got?

Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public...

We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape.

His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter. Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election.

The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain. This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg

We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different. They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people.

It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people.

We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise. He then fails to deliver on that promise. Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise. Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here.

He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies. And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like?

Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway. You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election. You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored. You don't matter.

There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha... Feel the burn lol...

The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office.

The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate.

That's all that's needed.

Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump. His spell is wearing off.

His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIIa2pYU0AAId_M.jpg

They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach.

But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack.

Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then?

https://i.imgur.com/ciayxXT.jpg

Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying.

That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS.

eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes.

Sad is a victim of TDS!

He's also forgetting about the Transcript.

KangaNong is like the Democrats - They keep bring up conspiracy theories about what happened Cheesy

But keep forgetting that the FACTS are already there for everyone to read.

They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did.

But regardless they are still going ahead with "Peach Mint" Cheesy

Once it goes to the Senate they'll have a real trial, and bring in real witnesses, and they will be cross examined by Trumps Legal Team and the Senate Judiciary committee who will rip them to shreds on National TV.

and all the DNC corruption will be there to see.

every time the Democrats ask a question - just refer them to the Transcript. Grin

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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #36 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:58am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:13am:

He's also forgetting about the Transcript.

KangaNong is like the Democrats - They keep bring up conspiracy theories about what happened Cheesy

But keep forgetting that the FACTS are already there for everyone to read.

They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did.

He released an edited call summary from recollection of others on the call. There was no stenographer and it's not a transcript. It even says that in the actual document:

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CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.

And we know from testimony given to the impeachment enquiry so far that there were specific mentions of Joe Biden discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter in the call. But in the call summary you speak of, Burisma and the Bidens (to the extent they were mentioned in the actual call) that was left out.

Who is lying now?

Hint: It's you jackass...

There is a recording of the call and the actual full transcript but they were hidden on the classified server to try and cover up this whole mess.

It's like Barr's summary of the Mueller report all over again, a fabrication to protect Trump.

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But regardless they are still going ahead with "Peach Mint" Cheesy

It is what the evidence supports.

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Once it goes to the Senate they'll have a real trial, and bring in real witnesses, and they will be cross examined by Trumps Legal Team and the Senate Judiciary committee who will rip them to shreds on National TV.

They'll get that opportunity with the Public Hearings and the Republican members of the House and relevant committees will have the chance to cross-examine, you won't have to wait that long.

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and all the DNC corruption will be there to see.

every time the Democrats ask a question - just refer them to the Transcript. Grin

*Edited call summary, but let's attempt that anyway:

Quote:

House Impeachment Enquiry Member: "Did President Trump solicit help from the Ukrainian President on his phone call to investigate Biden for his own political gain?"

Witness: "Refer to the 'transcript'"

House Impeachment Enquiry Member: "You mean the call summary, the one where Trump is found to have solicited a thing of value from foreign national that was not for the sake of the country but his own personal gain against a political rival and instead of using official diplomatic channels or the mutual legal assistance treaty he used his personal lawyer who has said he was only acting in his clients interests who formed a second clandestine shadow foreign policy team he led constituting a breach of Campaign Finance Laws and an abuse of power by the President which is exactly what the impeachment process was included to help stop?"

Witness: "Wait..."

We know from Barr that he didn't get involved, it was just Giuliani.

And that doesn't even take into account the quid pro quo that turns this into a bribery case given what we know from other evidence given so far.

You're playing a losing hand, and you're not even being smart about it.

The Republicans need to decide what they're going to do and fast.

Right now things are looking so bad for Trump they should be putting forward candidates to Primary. Pence can't win on his own and if the Republicans can't find someone better in a post-Trump landscape they're going to need to play a game of mitigation so they don't lose so badly in the Senate. More of their seats are up for re-election than the Dems, they have more to lose.

We know they won't be able to convince Trump to retire, even if McConnell tells Trump he has the 20 Republicans needed in the Senate to vote him out, so no matter what they do Trump will keep firing at them from Twitter.

I think their best option left is to start supporting the process now that they really have no angle left to attack it anyway, let the evidence come out and if it's as bad as it seems, follow through with the process, drop Trump and try to mitigate their losses and hold onto as much of the Senate as possible while still losing the election, and let the first term of the next Democratic President be a failure because they have the power to continue being their usual obstructionist selves in the Senate.

If they lose the election and the Senate, that's the worst-case scenario and unless the Republicans, ALL of them, start singing from the same song sheet, this outcome is becoming more and more likely.

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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #37 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 9:48am

Richdude wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Today Official impeachment inquiry into Trump voted to go ahead.

Process outlined etc

i.e. The whistle blower is irrelevant. Interesting that everything he / she reported was true.

Also interesting that it is illegal to expose a whistle blower but the Republicans were desperate to do so.

The impeachment process continues to its eventual conclusion.

We get to see the evidence proving that Trump misused the office of the president for his personal gain on a number of occasions undermining national security in the process.

With the evidence out there and the people aware of the truth we then get to see which republican politicians have any integrity left - or not. My money would be on the or nots.

The rules governing a whistleblowers was changed just 2 months ago by the Dems.

Very convenient!

The Dems are playing political games at the nations expense. They're terrified of Barr's and the IG's report and throwing everything at Trump. But its most likely too late! Grin

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he rules governing a whistleblowers was changed just 2 months ago by the Dems.

Above - the Trump team spin

The fact is that there was a review which took place well before this scandal erupted. There ware changes made which took effect after the whistleblower complaint was processed.

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They're terrified of Barr's and the IG's report and throwing everything at Trump. But its most likely too late!

You do see how silly this is don't you ? The impeachment hearings were occuring well before the crooked Barr witch hunt was escalated in a panicked defense of Trump.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41429 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy Reply #38 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:00pm Nunes: Dems fantasize about Watergate, this is their watergate moment
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41429 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy Reply #39 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:11pm Hannity: Latest testimony blows whistleblower claim out of the water
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39533	Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy Reply #40 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:13pm I see the serial liar, Cereal Brain is spreading his bullshit again. Tsk, tsk.
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Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy
Reply #41 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:16pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:13am:

Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying.

That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS.

eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes.

Sad is a victim of TDS!

He's also forgetting about the Transcript.

KangaNong is like the Democrats - They keep bring up conspiracy theories about what happened Cheesy

But keep forgetting that the FACTS are already there for everyone to read.

They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did.

But regardless they are still going ahead with "Peach Mint" Cheesy

Once it goes to the Senate they'll have a real trial, and bring in real witnesses, and they will be cross examined by Trumps Legal Team and the Senate Judiciary committee who will rip them to shreds on National TV.

and all the DNC corruption will be there to see.

every time the Democrats ask a question - just refer them to the Transcript. Grin

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SadKangaroo Gold Member Offline #FightStupid Posts: 14879 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy Reply #42 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:25pm Just keep spamming and promoting what each of you say, it'll only make it funnier when the public hearings start.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy Reply #43 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:50pm Quote: They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did. I have only seen one. Where are the others?
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SadKangaroo Gold Member Offline #FightStupid Posts: 14879 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Never a Whistleblower, A filthy Obama Hussein Spy Reply #44 - Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 2:12pm Aussie wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:50pm: Quote: They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did. I have only seen one. Where are the others? It also wasn't a transcript, it was only a call summary.
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