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Oct 22nd, 2019 at 5:12am
 
Free trade agreements fail working people   Sad
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The Free Trade Agreements with Indonesia, Hong Kong and Peru that are before the House of Representatives today fail to protect Australian workers or our legal sovereignty. They should never have been signed, let alone won bi-partisan support.

The agreements were negotiated in secret and have never been subjected to any form of independent assessment of their economic benefit or to determine whether they are likely to deliver or support jobs for Australian workers.

They will increase the number of workers on temporary visas in this country at a time when the 1.4 million already working here are routinely exposed to exploitation.

They do not guarantee that jobs will even be advertised locally before they are filled by workers on working holiday or training visas.

The agreements contain Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) clauses which would allow multinational companies to take legal action against the Australian government if they claim new laws would reduce their profits, such as improving the minimum wage or reducing exploitation.

The Morrison Government has also chosen not to use the Indonesia agreement to address use of child labour in that country, not only a failure of moral leadership but also meaning that Australian companies’ risk being undercut on labour costs by companies in Indonesia who are exploiting children.

US Department of Labour report on child labour in Indonesia available here: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/resources/reports/child-labor/indonesia

The ALP has extracted some concessions from the Government not contained in the agreements but has still voted to support agreements which do not meet the standards set out in the party platform.

Quotes attributable to ACTU President Michele O’Neil:

“We don’t know whether these agreements will deliver any benefits for Australian workers, and neither does the Morrison Government. We do know that they will increase the risk of exploitation of vulnerable workers here and overseas, expose Australia to legal challenges from multinational companies and allow child labour to continue in our nearest neighbour.

“These agreements are negotiated behind closed doors, and everything we know about them indicates that they are designed to benefit multinational companies, not Australian workers.

“The Morrison Government has created a situation where an Australian company who is endeavouring to do the right thing and create jobs in Australia might be undercut by an Indonesian company making use of child labour.

“They are turning a blind eye to the current situation in Hong Kong.

“The ALP is in breach of its own platform, which represents the commitment it has given to its members and Australian workers. To vote in favour of agreements which do not have labour clauses and include clauses which compromise Australia’s sovereignty is deeply disappointing.

“That the Government and the Labor Party have supported agreements which might result in a company suing the Australian Government for improving labour conditions in this country is unacceptable.”
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Reply #1 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 5:22am
 
exactly what donald trump said
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Reply #2 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 7:44am
 
But Australians love buying cheap imported stuff from ASIA. And the LIMA Agreement is just that - send Australian jobs overseas and Labor and the unions are being bribed by the Chinese to close Australian companies to send the work to China.

And of course that Extremist Commo Socialist Feminazi Sheila at the ACTU would never admit to what the unions are actually being bribed by China to do - send our jobs to ASIA.
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Has Albo been inspired by the Gospel according to the peoples' Messiah ScoMo ? Does he now recognize the unions are dead in the water ?




Union anger at Labor for siding with Coalition on new free trade deals. Opposition will support trade agreements with Indonesia, Hong Kong and Peru but push for a range of concessions
Sarah Martin Chief political correspondent Thu 17 Oct 2019 18.02 AEDTLast modified on Thu 17 Oct 2019 19.00 AEDT

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Unions say Labor is abandoning workers and the ALP’s national platform by supporting the free trade deals with Indonesia, Hong Kong and Peru. Photograph: Mike Bowers/The Guardian

The unions have blasted Labor for siding with the government on new free trade deals, accusing the party of abandoning workers and the ALP’s national platform.

Labor agreed to support the trade agreements with Indonesia, Hong Kong and Peru after a special caucus meeting on Thursday, but has resolved to demand a range of concessions from the government on labour market conditions and “outdated” clauses relating to investor legal rights.

The Australian Council of Trade Unions president, Michele O’Neil, who has been lobbying MPs to block the agreements, said the union movement had expected the Labor party to “stand up for workers and their jobs”.

“The decision by the ALP to side with the government is an abandonment both of their own platform, and of their responsibility to stand up for fair trade deals which deliver jobs for local workers, that protect Australia’s public services, sovereignty and visa workers from exploitation and that ensure international labor standards in the countries we trade with,” O’Neil said.

The decision also triggered a new social media campaign from the Electrical Trades Union, targeting the Labor leader, Anthony Albanese, for breaching the party’s national platform.

“These deals are bad for Aussie jobs and let multinationals sue Australia if our laws hurt their profits. When is Albo going to stick up for Australian Workers?” the advertisement said.

At its national conference last year Labor adopted a more hardline position in its official party platform, requiring it to prohibit through legislation signing trade agreements that include investor-state dispute settlement clauses and that waive labour market testing.

After a meeting of shadow cabinet on Wednesday night, caucus agreed on Thursday to support the legislation that will bring the free trade deals into effect, but has requested the government do more to crack down on the exploitation of temporary foreign workers and investor rights.

In a letter sent by the shadow trade minister, Madeleine King, to the trade minister, Simon Birmingham, Labor calls on the Coalition to bring forward legislation to address worker exploitation.

King said Labor would back the agreements, but remained “concerned about how this government will implement them”.

“Trade generates jobs for Australian workers. Reducing barriers to trade also creates more competitive industries and benefits Australian consumers through lower prices and greater choice,” King said.


But she said the opposition was seeking “firm commitments” to safeguard Australian jobs and maximise market access for Australian businesses.

A key request is for the government to provide a guarantee that no new rights will be created for foreign workers to enter Australia under future agreements with Indonesia for contractual service providers, which is flagged in chapter 12 of the Indonesian agreement.

In addition, Labor will seek the termination of outdated bilateral agreements with Indonesia, which include old investor state dispute mechanism clauses, and a review of the new clause, which gives companies certain legal rights in commercial disputes.

Birmingham told Guardian Australia he was confident the matters raised by Labor could be accommodated, and he was still hopeful that the agreements could come into effect in the new year after passing parliament this year.

“I think we will be able to sensibly respond to the issues Labor has raised,” Birmingham said.

“We have to consider them, but many of them fall into the category of things that are either fears that they present which are not actually in the agreements, or assurances that they seek for things that may already be under way, but we will work through each of the issues raised,” he said.

The shadow employment minister, Brendan O’Connor, said Labor would do “everything we can” to focus on the interests of working people, but was constrained by being in opposition.

“We have got some serious concerns with some of the deficiencies and we have made very clear we want to see improvements,” O’Connor said.

“It’s only Labor that is concerned about labour market testing, it is only Labor that is concerned about ensuring that we don’t see the overuse or misuse of temporary visas to put downward pressure on wages, or to displace local workers, it will be Labor that will be championing those issues.

“And frankly, we are not in government, of course if we were in government we would be negotiating sincerely and genuinely to protect the Australian workforce. From opposition we will do what we can.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/17/union-anger-at-labor-for-...
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Reply #4 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:28am
 
juliar wrote on Oct 22nd, 2019 at 7:44am:
But Australians love buying cheap imported stuff from ASIA. And the LIMA Agreement is just that - send Australian jobs overseas and Labor and the unions are being bribed by the Chinese to close Australian companies to send the work to China.

And of course that Extremist Commo Socialist Feminazi Sheila at the ACTU would never admit to what the unions are actually being bribed by China to do - send our jobs to ASIA.


but I thought that scumo was creating all of these jobs !! what sort of jobs are they socko ? Cheesy LOL
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Reply #5 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:32am
 
The naive idiocy that comes out of a child's mind in an adult body.
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Reply #6 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:52am
 
That's the plan...

I repeat:- 

a.  we are not 'competing' with poor countries - we are supposed to be part of their market for off-loading cheap products, and as such this nation and its people need to be sustained at a level of income sufficient to do that job.... no market - no nothing - so feed us handsomely....

b.  It is no secret that our political class robbed the Tresuria Nacional of $130Bn to salt away in a tax haven to ensure their income for life never-ending... so that when the inevitable Downfall comes, and the average annual income here falls to $10,000 - they, even in retirement, and then their families unto perpetuity, will be the lairds of all they survey, and living in true Overlord style while the peasants fight it out over a pile of dung at the bottom... Neo-Feudalism at its very best... they'll be the castled lords and ladies - you'll be the peasant struggling in the deep snow and begging for a crust to stay alive...

Wake Up, Australia!!
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Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:58am
 
Grapple sounds suspiciously like he is simply quoting good old GetUp! propaganda.

But Albo backed it so it must be OK.

Australian companies ARE directly competing with overseas companies and that is why they would go bankrupt with any wage increase.

But then this is the idea of the LIMA Agreement to send Australian jobs overseas and the unions and Labor are supporting the LIMA Agreement as they try to shut down Australian companies.
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Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 10:31am
 
juliar wrote on Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:32am:
The naive idiocy that comes out of a child's mind in an adult body.


what sort of jobs are they socko ?? Cheesy LOL
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Reply #9 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 10:32am
 
juliar wrote on Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:58am:
Grapple sounds suspiciously like he is simply quoting good old GetUp! propaganda.

But Albo backed it so it must be OK.

Australian companies ARE directly competing with overseas companies and that is why they would go bankrupt with any wage increase.

But then this is the idea of the LIMA Agreement to send Australian jobs overseas and the unions and Labor are supporting the LIMA Agreement as they try to shut down Australian companies.


so what's to stop you from changing the so called LIMA agreement ??
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Reply #10 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 6:08pm
 
WN, can you give any specific examples of how the agreement fails working people? This looks like a copy and paste job of what has been written about every FTA in the last 50 years.
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Reply #11 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 6:17pm
 
Canny FreeDiver is as sharp as a tack and tips a bucket of slops over BlackDay's union/GetUp! propaganda trash.

The unions are finished as they have almost NO members anymore.
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Reply #12 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:28am:
juliar wrote on Oct 22nd, 2019 at 7:44am:
But Australians love buying cheap imported stuff from ASIA. And the LIMA Agreement is just that - send Australian jobs overseas and Labor and the unions are being bribed by the Chinese to close Australian companies to send the work to China.

And of course that Extremist Commo Socialist Feminazi Sheila at the ACTU would never admit to what the unions are actually being bribed by China to do - send our jobs to ASIA.


but I thought that scumo was creating all of these jobs !! what sort of jobs are they socko ? Cheesy LOL


Underpaid jobs for migrant workers?
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Reply #13 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 8:00pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 22nd, 2019 at 6:08pm:
WN, can you give any specific examples of how the agreement fails working people? This looks like a copy and paste job of what has been written about every FTA in the last 50 years.


You like agreements that give multinationals rights that no Australian company has enabling them to sue us over government legislation that disadvantages them ? Yes these agreements put foreign multinationals above the Australian people and our workers.

You like legislation that allows foreign companies to bring in their own workforce and pay at not Australian rates ?

You like deals like the US FTA where every area of primary production where we had a commercial advantage was excluded from the deal but every market that the US had an advantage in was included ?


Australia has in fact shot itself in the foot in most FTA's that we have signed, we get the short end of the stick every time. People complain and oppose these FTA's mostly for very good reasons.
FTA concept it is fairly obvious if they are consistently opposed there are probably good reasons, in this case a long series of poor deals. 
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Reply #14 - Oct 22nd, 2019 at 9:27pm
 
I like free trade.

How have we shot ourselves in the foot? For the most part the people who make these claims are totally ignorant of the content of the FTA or its consequences. You see the exact same claims made about every single one. You even demonstrate this by bringing up American agreements. I bet our counterparts in Indonesia, Hong Kong and Peru are making the exact same claims about us taking advantage of them. It's copy and paste mindless gibberish.
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