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Reply #15 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:00pm

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

They are going to kill each other in the end anyway, its what Muslims do, it might be a good time to step back and let it happen, in fact get the hell out of the whole middle east.

The 70,000 Muslim women and kids, (a ready army) at al-Hawl refugee camp are awaiting a breakout.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Trump to Turkey: Slaughter the Kurds Reply #16 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:09pm The big issue here is that the Kurds are snatching land. They don't want to give up some of the land they've occupied from Isis and they want independence. It's been IRAQ for a long time and they have no right to do that.
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Trump to Turkey: Slaughter the Kurds Reply #17 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19625 Perth Gender:	Re: Trump to Turkey: Slaughter the Kurds Reply #18 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:17pm The moral of this story is do not trust America and do not do any deals with Donald Trump unless you want to be screwed....Just ask Stormy Daniels....America deserve Trump???
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Reply #19 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:20pm

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's

Not going into the ME in the first place based on Republican bullshit would have been a better option....America cannot be trusted and have shown they are no better than those they condemn to death with their betrayal!!!

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39513 Gender:	Re: Trump to Turkey: Slaughter the Kurds Reply #20 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:22pm Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm: Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's Many people have said this for decades. Now Trump does it ........ many people are antsy.
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Reply #21 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:39pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:17pm:

The moral of this story is do not trust America and do not do any deals with Donald Trump unless you want to be screwed....Just ask Stormy Daniels....America deserve Trump???

Grin

So what happens to the US alliance with the Shia Iraqi Army if the US backs the Kurds? This is more than just Turkey. The Iraqi Army and the Kurds aren't friends. They both have interests in the same territory.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131487 Gender:	Re: Trump to Turkey: Slaughter the Kurds Reply #22 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:46pm Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm: Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's If only Fred had done that, back in September 1945.
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Reply #23 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 8:28pm

AiA wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 5:49am:

Trump Invites a New Killing Field

Trump’s betrayal of the Kurds isn’t just immoral—there’s no strategic reason for it.
By FRED KAPLAN

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It is hardly the first time that the United States has betrayed the Kurds, but President Donald Trump’s announcement on Sunday—that he’s pulling U.S. troops out of northern Syria and allowing the Turkish army to mow the Kurds down—is particularly shocking (even the Turks were surprised) and harmful to U.S. security too.

The likely consequences of Trump’s actions are not some unforeseen side effect; he acknowledged, and even welcomed, them explicitly. A statement released by the White House noted that Trump spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan by phone. It then went on:

Turkey will soon be moving forward with its long-planned operation into Northern Syria. The United States Armed Forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial “Caliphate,” will no longer in the immediate area.

In other words, Trump was telling Erdogan: Come on in. You’ll have an open field for killing.

For several years now, through the Obama and Trump administrations, Washington has relied on the Syrian Kurdish militia as the most potent fighters against ISIS, also known as the Islamic State. About 11,000 Kurds died in that fight. Now that they’ve played the lead role in ousting ISIS from its territory, Trump is abandoning them.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/trump-syria-kurds-turkey.html

AND WHY SHOULD THE USA (Trump) DO SOMETHING THAT THE UNITED NATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING FROM THE START, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS THE BRITISH WHO DREW UP THE LINES ON THE OLD MAPS THAT IGNORED THE EXISTENCE OF THE KURDS.

Get a Dog up ya AiA. You should see the Big Picture one day, outside your 'little' USA.

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Reply #24 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 8:33pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's

Not going into the ME in the first place based on Republican bullshit would have been a better option....America cannot be trusted and have shown they are no better than those they condemn to death with their betrayal!!!

Angry

When have they/us/the UN not been in the ME, most of the time its been with all with good intentions, we even feed them when displaced. Trump made a good and timely call here,, they are on their own, only Allah can save them now.

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Reply #25 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 9:10pm

You might find that the Turks will regret turning on the Kurds.
When the Greeks invade to liberate the once great land of Anatolia with it's capital 'Troy'.
Last thing the Turks will want is a resurgence of Kurd empowerment to help the Greeks out. Wink

Don't worry bra.
Everything taken care of. Wink

Why do you think the Greeks have gone Nazi-like in their 'underground movement'.

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Reply #26 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 10:02pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:39pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:17pm:

The moral of this story is do not trust America and do not do any deals with Donald Trump unless you want to be screwed....Just ask Stormy Daniels....America deserve Trump???

Grin

So what happens to the US alliance with the Shia Iraqi Army if the US backs the Kurds? This is more than just Turkey. The Iraqi Army and the Kurds aren't friends. They both have interests in the same territory.

But the US did back the Kurds until they defeated ISIS and now under Donald Trump they are being sacrificed because Trump did a deal with Turkey....Who would ever trust the USA under this President???

Huh

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Reply #27 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 10:08pm

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's

Not going into the ME in the first place based on Republican bullshit would have been a better option....America cannot be trusted and have shown they are no better than those they condemn to death with their betrayal!!!

Angry

When have they/us/the UN not been in the ME, most of the time its been with all with good intentions, we even feed them when displaced. Trump made a good and timely call here,, they are on their own, only Allah can save them now.

The justification for war in Iraq was fabricated bullshit and was what created ISIS in the first place....You have a very selective memory when the truth exposes you as a sycophant who would excuse anything the Republicans do....Iraq was a war crime and the United States cannot be trusted to tell the truth....Democrats and Republicans are both cut from the same cloth....George Lucas used the USA as a template for the Evil Empire in Star Wars and got it spot on!!!

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Reply #28 - Oct 9^th, 2019 at 10:09pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 10:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:39pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:17pm:

The moral of this story is do not trust America and do not do any deals with Donald Trump unless you want to be screwed....Just ask Stormy Daniels....America deserve Trump???

Grin

So what happens to the US alliance with the Shia Iraqi Army if the US backs the Kurds? This is more than just Turkey. The Iraqi Army and the Kurds aren't friends. They both have interests in the same territory.

But the US did back the Kurds until they defeated ISIS and now under Donald Trump they are being sacrificed because Trump did a deal with Turkey....Who would ever trust the USA under this President???

Huh

The World does

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Reply #29 - Oct 10^th, 2019 at 5:17pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 10:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Johnnie wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

Its always something in the middle east, pulling out is the only answer, supply them all with unlimited MOAB's

Not going into the ME in the first place based on Republican bullshit would have been a better option....America cannot be trusted and have shown they are no better than those they condemn to death with their betrayal!!!

Angry

When have they/us/the UN not been in the ME, most of the time its been with all with good intentions, we even feed them when displaced. Trump made a good and timely call here,, they are on their own, only Allah can save them now.

The justification for war in Iraq was fabricated bullshit and was what created ISIS in the first place....You have a very selective memory when the truth exposes you as a sycophant who would excuse anything the Republicans do....Iraq was a war crime and the United States cannot be trusted to tell the truth....Democrats and Republicans are both cut from the same cloth....George Lucas used the USA as a template for the Evil Empire in Star Wars and got it spot on!!!

Wink

So do you want the US in or out of the ME?

Let them go hammer and tong and leave the ME for Allah to sort out.

Trying to contain these people and their beliefs is impossible.

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