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Reply #15 - Oct 13th, 2019 at 2:57pm
 
Lee King wrote on Oct 13th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
I recently heard about a family in Brisbane who have a Mortgage.
Husband, wife and son (19) are on DSP - I presume their only disability is a weight problem! Younger son (17) and other son (10) also have weight problems. Imagine! 3 x DSP plus the rest of the handouts .... living in clover?


I doubt you can get dsp for a weight problem. The weight may be from whatever illness or disability they have.

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Re: Inquiry Into Newstart Starts On October 10
Reply #16 - Oct 13th, 2019 at 3:07pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 13th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Lee King wrote on Oct 13th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
I recently heard about a family in Brisbane who have a Mortgage.
Husband, wife and son (19) are on DSP - I presume their only disability is a weight problem! Younger son (17) and other son (10) also have weight problems. Imagine! 3 x DSP plus the rest of the handouts .... living in clover?


I doubt you can get dsp for a weight problem. The weight may be from whatever illness or disability they have.

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The weight problem has caused heart problems! Tongue They sit and do nothing then order take-away. Get people in to clean and so forth. The son is Autistic. These are people 45ish. OUR taxpayer dollars at work! Angry
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Reply #17 - Oct 13th, 2019 at 4:04pm
 
Lee King wrote on Oct 13th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 13th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Lee King wrote on Oct 13th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
I recently heard about a family in Brisbane who have a Mortgage.
Husband, wife and son (19) are on DSP - I presume their only disability is a weight problem! Younger son (17) and other son (10) also have weight problems. Imagine! 3 x DSP plus the rest of the handouts .... living in clover?


I doubt you can get dsp for a weight problem. The weight may be from whatever illness or disability they have.

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The weight problem has caused heart problems! Tongue They sit and do nothing then order take-away. Get people in to clean and so forth. The son is Autistic. These are people 45ish. OUR taxpayer dollars at work! Angry


I have to call bs. You can't get dsp for  weight problems

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Reply #18 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 5:01am
 
I have a family of dead beats living a few blocks away from me.
They are a full family of dead beats.
Mom and dad have never had a job......ever
The two children have never had a job, live in the same house, with their dead beat partners, all on the dole.
The grandchildren have recently come of age, they too now live on the dole, they had extensions added to the house so they can fit in with their kids.

They own the house.
They have several near new cars
They are tidy, clean and generally well dressed
The kids are well fed and happy.
All because they pool their doles to get quite a good income.

BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER DONE A DAYS WORK.

Now, I do t know their whole situation.
I do know there are at least two disabled stickers on two of their cars.
But we now have 3 generations of dole bludgers living well on the dole, with another coming along nicely.

They have found nirvana,  live comfortably, if frugally.
Don't drink or smoke
Easy to get on with and good neighbours.
But never worked a day in their lives.

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Reply #19 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 5:35am
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 14th, 2019 at 5:01am:
I have a family of dead beats living a few blocks away from me.
They are a full family of dead beats.
Mom and dad have never had a job......ever
The two children have never had a job, live in the same house, with their dead beat partners, all on the dole.
The grandchildren have recently come of age, they too now live on the dole, they had extensions added to the house so they can fit in with their kids.

They own the house.
They have several near new cars
They are tidy, clean and generally well dressed
The kids are well fed and happy.
All because they pool their doles to get quite a good income.

BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER DONE A DAYS WORK.

Now, I do t know their whole situation.
I do know there are at least two disabled stickers on two of their cars.
But we now have 3 generations of dole bludgers living well on the dole, with another coming along nicely.

They have found nirvana,  live comfortably, if frugally.
Don't drink or smoke
Easy to get on with and good neighbours.
But never worked a day in their lives.



What is your point? If what you say is true then they are a minority.

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Re: Inquiry Into Newstart Starts On October 10
Reply #20 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 12:02pm
 
Why don't you report them to the authorities ?
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Reply #21 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 12:07pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 14th, 2019 at 5:35am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 14th, 2019 at 5:01am:
I have a family of dead beats living a few blocks away from me.
They are a full family of dead beats.
Mom and dad have never had a job......ever
The two children have never had a job, live in the same house, with their dead beat partners, all on the dole.
The grandchildren have recently come of age, they too now live on the dole, they had extensions added to the house so they can fit in with their kids.

They own the house.
They have several near new cars
They are tidy, clean and generally well dressed
The kids are well fed and happy.
All because they pool their doles to get quite a good income.

BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER DONE A DAYS WORK.

Now, I do t know their whole situation.
I do know there are at least two disabled stickers on two of their cars.
But we now have 3 generations of dole bludgers living well on the dole, with another coming along nicely.

They have found nirvana,  live comfortably, if frugally.
Don't drink or smoke
Easy to get on with and good neighbours.
But never worked a day in their lives.



What is your point?



Sounds like he's jealous.

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Reply #22 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 12:09pm
 
Gweggy on Newstart for years is worried that they might spring him.
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Reply #23 - Oct 15th, 2019 at 5:36am
 
‘You are nothing’: Reality of life on $40 a day   Sad



news.com.au October 12, 2019

The Morrison government has defended the Newstart allowance amid criticism it’s too low. But those forced to live on it tell a different story.

People on the dole are made to feel like they’re nothing, senators examining Newstart payments have heard.

Mark, who was only identified by his first name, told the committee on Friday the welfare system operated “to deter or to destroy but certainly not help”.

Mark said his background as an award-winning journalist was not recognised when he went on Newstart five years ago.

“Once you get caught up in the system … you’re reminded very, very quickly how much your own background and professional history mean nothing,” he said.

Mark said he was pushed onto welfare after a traumatic break-up.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has denied the Newstart allowance is too low. Picture: AP

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has denied the Newstart allowance is too low. Picture: APSource:AP

“I counted the days waiting (for payment) and that’s what you do on Newstart,” Mark said. There has been widespread pressure for a raise to the $40-a-day dole, which has barely budged in real terms for a quarter of a century.   Sad

The Australian Council of Social Service told the committee a boost to the payment would see a boost to the economy.

Chief executive Cassandra Goldie said she knew the politicians on the committee had come to parliament to do good things, and raising welfare payments would be one of the effective ways to fix national poverty rates.

“This is the best good thing you could do,” Dr Goldie said.

Foodbank Australia said people in cashless welfare card trial sites were having difficulty accessing food in an “affordable and routine way”.

Professional services giant KPMG has called for Newstart to rise from $277.85 per week for a single person to $370 per week, which would move it up to half the national minimum wage. “It’s a balance between making sure that you’ve got a level which satisfies material wellbeing and psychological wellbeing, and ensuring that you don’t have a disincentive to work,” KPMG’s Grant Wardell-Johnson told the committee.


Grant Wardell-Johnson from professional services giant KPMG, who has called for Newstart to rise from $277.85 per week for a single person to $370. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied

He said an inadequate welfare safety net enhanced people’s fear about innovation, technology and their jobs.

KPMG has favoured increasing Newstart since 2016.

Mr Wardell-Johnson said he had been shocked to learn that about half the people on Newstart are aged over 45. A friend of his was made redundant at the age of 55 after a long career in industry training.

“She went to more than 100 interviews before she got a job,” he told senators.

“That’s quite different from the image of the lazy 30-year-old or so, which I think is very much a misunderstanding of people on Newstart.”

The Morrison government has rejected calls to raise Newstart, with a multi- agency submission to the hearing saying the government’s focus was on strengthening the budget.   Sad
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Reply #24 - Oct 15th, 2019 at 11:31am
 
Blackday is on Newstart.
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Reply #25 - Oct 15th, 2019 at 5:29pm
 
juliar wrote on Oct 14th, 2019 at 12:02pm:
Why don't you report them to the authorities ?


They have been many times, but not by me.

They get hounded by the authorities and they just lock up and go on a holiday.
Then when they get back they start all over again.

They have found the way to beat the system.
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Reply #26 - Oct 16th, 2019 at 4:40pm
 
It is just so depressing to see the smart ones bludging while the rest have to work.

Wonder how the inquiry into the Newstart is going as it started on Oct 10 and it is now Oct 16.
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Reply #27 - Oct 16th, 2019 at 4:44pm
 
juliar wrote on Oct 16th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
It is just so depressing to see the smart ones bludging while the rest have to work.

Wonder how the inquiry into the Newstart is going as it started on Oct 10 and it is now Oct 16.


you mean your smart bludging mates in canberra who spend other peoples money ??
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #28 - Oct 16th, 2019 at 4:53pm
 
The Greeny Scunge feels self conscious with all this talk of bludgers and Newstart. Wonder where she will glue herself onto next ?  She really thinks the world is going to end.
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Reply #29 - Oct 16th, 2019 at 5:00pm
 
juliar wrote on Oct 15th, 2019 at 11:31am:
Blackday is on Newstart.


and you're on Nostart socko !! Cheesy LOL
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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