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Reply #15 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 9:58am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 8:01pm:

Its farcical, the entire judiciary system rules against these invaders and one judge comes along and says nup, what on earth is going on,,, PC madness and judges who think they are the ants pants, they are inner city poofs.

Isn't this judge ruling specifically related to the little girl's case - and how she has never actually been assessed? Presumably the other rulings were only in relation to the parent's claim.

And that was what this judge was supposed to be ruling on which in itself is just a technicality, that was his job, instead he comes out and says this this family needs time to prove why they should not be deported after every court in the land deemed them to be illegal.

I want my money back.

The judge says there's a prima facie case that the power under s198 of the Migration Act is not available to the Government to remove the girl from Australia.

He's just following the law.

Its not going to make any difference to the outcome because ultimately the decision is in the hands of the immigration minister and he has already said they will not be staying.

This is just another delay tactic based on a technicality

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Reply #16 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:39pm

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 9:58am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 8:01pm:

Its farcical, the entire judiciary system rules against these invaders and one judge comes along and says nup, what on earth is going on,,, PC madness and judges who think they are the ants pants, they are inner city poofs.

Isn't this judge ruling specifically related to the little girl's case - and how she has never actually been assessed? Presumably the other rulings were only in relation to the parent's claim.

And that was what this judge was supposed to be ruling on which in itself is just a technicality, that was his job, instead he comes out and says this this family needs time to prove why they should not be deported after every court in the land deemed them to be illegal.

I want my money back.

The judge says there's a prima facie case that the power under s198 of the Migration Act is not available to the Government to remove the girl from Australia.

He's just following the law.

Its not going to make any difference to the outcome because ultimately the decision is in the hands of the immigration minister and he has already said they will not be staying.

This is just another delay tactic based on a technicality

Responding to the decision on Sky News, Mr Dutton said he respected the court's ruling which "may well go to the High Court".

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Reply #17 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 4:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:39pm:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 9:58am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 8:01pm:

Its farcical, the entire judiciary system rules against these invaders and one judge comes along and says nup, what on earth is going on,,, PC madness and judges who think they are the ants pants, they are inner city poofs.

Isn't this judge ruling specifically related to the little girl's case - and how she has never actually been assessed? Presumably the other rulings were only in relation to the parent's claim.

And that was what this judge was supposed to be ruling on which in itself is just a technicality, that was his job, instead he comes out and says this this family needs time to prove why they should not be deported after every court in the land deemed them to be illegal.

I want my money back.

The judge says there's a prima facie case that the power under s198 of the Migration Act is not available to the Government to remove the girl from Australia.

He's just following the law.

Its not going to make any difference to the outcome because ultimately the decision is in the hands of the immigration minister and he has already said they will not be staying.

This is just another delay tactic based on a technicality

Responding to the decision on Sky News, Mr Dutton said he respected the court's ruling which "may well go to the High Court".

I saw part of the interview, what else could he say.

He also went on to say that it will not make a scrap of difference and they will be sent back.

I would hate to think of the costs this family continue to burden the tax payer with.

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Reply #18 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 6:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Yet they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times.

Who told you that?

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The Department of Home Affairs has repeatedly said that the family's case has been comprehensively assessed over many years, and they have consistently been found not to meet Australia's protection obligations.

The family also had their appeal rejected by the Federal Circuit Court in June last year.

In that judgment, the judge noted that Nades had returned to Sri Lanka on three occasions during the civil war and there was no evidence to suggest his family still living in Sri Lanka was at risk from authorities.

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Reply #19 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 6:35pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Yet they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times.

Don't be misleading. They arrived in Australia in 2012 and 2013, the civil war ended in 2009. So when you say "they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times", this was not during the time they were seeking asylum in Australia - as you misleadingly imply.

What were the circumstances of those return trips? If it was during the civil war, then its likely they returned to tamil controlled areas - suggesting they were out of the reach of the government they now claim to fear persecution from. Who knows. Its reasonable to assume that the persecution of the tamils increased after the civil war ended, as the government asserted their control over the tamil population and stamped out any risk of another uprising.

That said, I do recognise that successive courts had rejected their asylum claim. But on what grounds? Asylum claims are notoriously difficult to assess, and unless claimants arrive armed with a stack of brief cases full of documents to 'prove' their case (obviously a ridiculous proposition when we're talking about people fleeing on an overcrowded boat) - the process must involve a lot of guess work.

And yet the point remains - this isn't about the asylum claim of the parents, its now about the youngest child (who wasn't born when the original claim was made). She has a right to have her claim heard. And you can whinge all you want about how this is the parents fault - but even if that were true, you can't say its fair to therefore punish the child.

Did the Tamils control Sri Lankan International Airports? Roll Eyes

They flew back & forth.

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Reply #20 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 6:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Yet they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times.

Don't be misleading. They arrived in Australia in 2012 and 2013, the civil war ended in 2009. So when you say "they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times", this was not during the time they were seeking asylum in Australia - as you misleadingly imply.

What were the circumstances of those return trips? If it was during the civil war, then its likely they returned to tamil controlled areas - suggesting they were out of the reach of the government they now claim to fear persecution from. Who knows. Its reasonable to assume that the persecution of the tamils increased after the civil war ended, as the government asserted their control over the tamil population and stamped out any risk of another uprising.

That said, I do recognise that successive courts had rejected their asylum claim. But on what grounds? Asylum claims are notoriously difficult to assess, and unless claimants arrive armed with a stack of brief cases full of documents to 'prove' their case (obviously a ridiculous proposition when we're talking about people fleeing on an overcrowded boat) - the process must involve a lot of guess work.

And yet the point remains - this isn't about the asylum claim of the parents, its now about the youngest child (who wasn't born when the original claim was made). She has a right to have her claim heard. And you can whinge all you want about how this is the parents fault - but even if that were true, you can't say its fair to therefore punish the child.

They were told they couldn't stay after their visas expired ... they did ....

To help their case they then decided to have children here ..... no doubt paid for by Australian taxpayers ..... as leverage to be able to stay.

It's like pregnant Nigerian women going to the UK & giving birth ... using the child to circumvent immigration procedure to stay.

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Reply #21 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 6:41pm

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 4:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:39pm:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 11:07am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 9:58am:

Johnnie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 8:01pm:

Its farcical, the entire judiciary system rules against these invaders and one judge comes along and says nup, what on earth is going on,,, PC madness and judges who think they are the ants pants, they are inner city poofs.

Isn't this judge ruling specifically related to the little girl's case - and how she has never actually been assessed? Presumably the other rulings were only in relation to the parent's claim.

And that was what this judge was supposed to be ruling on which in itself is just a technicality, that was his job, instead he comes out and says this this family needs time to prove why they should not be deported after every court in the land deemed them to be illegal.

I want my money back.

The judge says there's a prima facie case that the power under s198 of the Migration Act is not available to the Government to remove the girl from Australia.

He's just following the law.

Its not going to make any difference to the outcome because ultimately the decision is in the hands of the immigration minister and he has already said they will not be staying.

This is just another delay tactic based on a technicality

Responding to the decision on Sky News, Mr Dutton said he respected the court's ruling which "may well go to the High Court".

I saw part of the interview, what else could he say.

He also went on to say that it will not make a scrap of difference and they will be sent back.

I would hate to think of the costs this family continue to burden the tax payer with.

And there are 6000 similar cases waiting in the wings for the outcome.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16096 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Truth justice and the Tamil family way. Reply #22 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 7:12pm Tell the judge that wants them to stay That he will be responsible for them and their kin. Just throw them on a plane and ship them out under darkness Good riddance
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Reply #23 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 8:10pm

Valkie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

Tell the judge that wants them to stay

That he will be responsible for them and their kin.

Just throw them on a plane and ship them out under darkness

Good riddance

This judge lives in bubble land, I want to see his CV.

If I was the judge I would order that they each get a lifejacket and shoved of the end of the Christmas Island jetty and told to swim home, no more avgas for them.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40659 Gender:	Re: Truth justice and the Tamil family way. Reply #24 - Sep 20^th, 2019 at 10:01pm She was born after her parents' refugee applications were refused. She has no claim.
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Truth justice and the Tamil family way. Reply #25 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 12:34am Frank wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 10:01pm: She was born after her parents' refugee applications were refused. She has no claim. They don't have a leg to stand on, boot them out.
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Reply #26 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 6:19am

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Yet they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times.

Who told you that?

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The Department of Home Affairs has repeatedly said that the family's case has been comprehensively assessed over many years, and they have consistently been found not to meet Australia's protection obligations.

The family also had their appeal rejected by the Federal Circuit Court in June last year.

In that judgment, the judge noted that Nades had returned to Sri Lanka on three occasions during the civil war and there was no evidence to suggest his family still living in Sri Lanka was at risk from authorities.

You said "they".

Your link says that only the father returned.

What do you hope to gain from lying?

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Reply #27 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 7:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 6:19am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Yet they have returned to Sri Lanka 3 times.

Who told you that?

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The Department of Home Affairs has repeatedly said that the family's case has been comprehensively assessed over many years, and they have consistently been found not to meet Australia's protection obligations.

The family also had their appeal rejected by the Federal Circuit Court in June last year.

In that judgment, the judge noted that Nades had returned to Sri Lanka on three occasions during the civil war and there was no evidence to suggest his family still living in Sri Lanka was at risk from authorities.

You said "they".

Your link says that only the father returned.

What do you hope to gain from lying?

I didn't read the names correctly & thought Nades was the family name ...

Husband = Nadesalingam Murugappan

Wife = Kokilapathmapriya Nadesalingam

None the less they were told before they had children they couldn't stay ...........

so they had children ...... which were rightly called "anchor babies" .....

because that's what they are being used as.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Truth justice and the Tamil family way. Reply #28 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:25am Is this Muslim Tamil woman pregnant again or is she just very fat, is anchor baby #3 on its way, currently anchor baby #2 is holding Australia to ransom.
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