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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Uber loses in France Sep 19^th, 2019 at 4:54pm Link. They will Appeal, but the writing is on the wall.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Uber loses in France Reply #1 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:27pm So Taxi drivers are employees too, what sort of wages do you pay your drivers Ozzie?
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Reply #2 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:54pm

rhino wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

So Taxi drivers are employees too, what sort of wages do you pay your drivers Ozzie?

Nope....that issue has already been litigated some years ago. They are bailees. The setup is totally different and one difference is that drivers 'hire/bail' my car and I pay all expenses. They are free to get work from their own clientele etc etc.

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Reply #4 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 1:47am

Aussie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:54pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

So Taxi drivers are employees too, what sort of wages do you pay your drivers Ozzie?

Nope....that issue has already been litigated some years ago. They are bailees. The setup is totally different and one difference is that drivers 'hire/bail' my car and I pay all expenses. They are free to get work from their own clientele etc etc.

Keep telling yourself that, they are coming for you. You will be forced to pay back pay, superannuation and benefits. The union movement is working on a combined effort at the moment to take this all the way.

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Reply #5 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 7:38am

Aussie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:54pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

So Taxi drivers are employees too, what sort of wages do you pay your drivers Ozzie?

Nope....that issue has already been litigated some years ago. They are bailees. The setup is totally different and one difference is that drivers 'hire/bail' my car and I pay all expenses. They are free to get work from their own clientele etc etc.

Yes & that's a pretty crap system in itself after you get your cut ...........

and of course if you own the vehicle you should be responsible for the fuel & maintenance costs.

That aside .... if Uber are now under the pump from govts..... what about the other ride share operators like OLA? They operate the same way if not worse than Uber.

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Reply #6 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 1:30pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 7:38am:

Aussie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:54pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

So Taxi drivers are employees too, what sort of wages do you pay your drivers Ozzie?

Nope....that issue has already been litigated some years ago. They are bailees. The setup is totally different and one difference is that drivers 'hire/bail' my car and I pay all expenses. They are free to get work from their own clientele etc etc.

Yes & that's a pretty crap system in itself after you get your cut ...........

and of course if you own the vehicle you should be responsible for the fuel & maintenance costs.

That aside .... if Uber are now under the pump from govts..... what about the other ride share operators like OLA? They operate the same way if not worse than Uber.

If there is a decision made in an Australian Court that "Uber" drivers are employees, there goes the ride share business model....it is fuqqed.

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Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 6:37pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 1:30pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 7:38am:

Aussie wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:54pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

So Taxi drivers are employees too, what sort of wages do you pay your drivers Ozzie?

Nope....that issue has already been litigated some years ago. They are bailees. The setup is totally different and one difference is that drivers 'hire/bail' my car and I pay all expenses. They are free to get work from their own clientele etc etc.

Yes & that's a pretty crap system in itself after you get your cut ...........

and of course if you own the vehicle you should be responsible for the fuel & maintenance costs.

That aside .... if Uber are now under the pump from govts..... what about the other ride share operators like OLA? They operate the same way if not worse than Uber.

If there is a decision made in an Australian Court that "Uber" drivers are employees, there goes the ride share business model....it is fuqqed.

That's fine by me ...... but it still doesn't excuse the shyte system you use to have drivers in your cabs.

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