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Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:45pm
 
Who's participating tomorrow to save our planet or what's left of it after greed incorporated has raped and pillaged it ?
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Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:49pm
 
Meanwhile there is a paper in Spectrum, repeated from Joule an industry publication.

"How Inexpensive Must Energy Storage Be for Utilities to Switch to 100 Percent Renewables?"

"Electricity and heat production are the largest sources of greenhouse gas emissions in the world. Carbon-free electricity will be critical for keeping the average global temperature rise to within the United Nations’ target of 1.5 degrees Celsius and avoid the worst effects of climate change. As world leaders meet at the United Nations Climate Action Summit next week, boosting renewable energy and energy storage will be major priorities.

Wind and solar skeptics are quick to point out that such systems are expensive and can’t keep the lights on 24/7. The first argument is wilting as renewables become cost-competitive with fossil fuels. The second one also boils down to cost: that of energy storage, which will be essential for sending large amounts of renewable energy to the grid when needed.
“Low-cost storage is the key to enabling renewable electricity to compete with fossil fuel generated electricity on a cost basis,” says Yet-Ming Chiang, a materials science and engineering professor at MIT.

But exactly how low? Chiang, professor of energy studies Jessika Trancik, and others have determined that energy storage would have to cost roughly US $20 per kilowatt-hour (kWh) for the grid to be 100 percent powered by a wind-solar mix. Their analysis is published in Joule.

That’s an intimidating stretch for lithium-ion batteries, which dipped to $175/kWh in 2018."

"Energy storage would have to cost $10 to $20/kWh for a wind-solar mix with storage to be competitive with a nuclear power plant providing baseload electricity. And competing with a natural gas peaker plant would require energy storage costs to fall to $5/kWh.

But those figures are only for scenarios in which solar and wind meet power demand 100 percent of the time. If other sources meet demand just 5 percent of the time, storage could work at a price tag of $150/kWh. Which technologies could hit that target?"

https://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/renewables/what-energy-storage-would...

So the costs would need to be -

$10-20/kWh to be competitive with nuclear power for baseload.
$5/kWh to be competitive with natural gas peaker power plants.

BTW -Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 18th, 2019 at 11:40pm:
and you couldn't even sh.t in your hands and clap.


And I wouldn't even want to. And I don't know any who would. But I guess you are an adept.
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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:01pm
 
and what is the real price you put on f.cking up the planet by setting fire to coal and gas ? Of course the prices you quoted don't take that into account do they Sad


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Reply #3 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:10pm
 
Thorium power will solve all our problems.

It will put coal and most fuel companies out of business.
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Reply #4 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:27pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:01pm:
and what is the real price you put on f.cking up the planet by setting fire to coal and gas ? Of course the prices you quoted don't take that into account do they


You have made no case. So what if average temps increase by 2C. it already does that daily as well as seasonally.

Of course people don't live globally, so a global temperature affects no-one.

But please tell us exactly what we can expect in a warming world. Without the use of models as they show no evidence of prediction. Climate models have not been verified or validated.

"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future exact climate states is not possible." IPCC
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Reply #5 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 3:32pm
 
Cherry picking again are you as usual ?

Here you go. This explains you and the rest of the denialist money grabbing conservative trash that frequents this forum.

Doubt over climate science is a product with an industry behind it
With its roots in the tobacco industry, climate science denial talking points can be seen as manufactured doubt


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2015/mar/05/doubt-over-climate...

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Reply #6 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 3:41pm
 
Oh noes? The Guardian? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

From your reference -

"Documents obtained from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, where Soon has a part-time research position, have raised questions over the rules around conflict of interest and funding disclosures in the journals where Soon has published his work."

Except of course the money was sent to the Smithsonian Institute. The Smithsonian Institute then tasked Soon and paid him.

It was a good beat up by Readfearn while it lasted.

You are just so gullible. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Next you'll be talking "Exxonknew" the same amount on climate as climate researchers in the day.  Wink
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lee wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 3:41pm:
Oh noes? The Guardian? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

From your reference -

"Documents obtained from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, where Soon has a part-time research position, have raised questions over the rules around conflict of interest and funding disclosures in the journals where Soon has published his work."

Except of course the money was sent to the Smithsonian Institute. The Smithsonian Institute then tasked Soon and paid him.

It was a good beat up by Readfearn while it lasted.

You are just so gullible. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Next you'll be talking "Exxonknew" the same amount on climate as climate researchers in the day.  Wink


yeh and we are all supposed to believe the cherry picked sh.t that you keep posting here Cheesy LOL
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Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
yeh and we are all supposed to believe the cherry picked sh.t that you keep posting here


Since you have posted nothing of substance; I will give you a chance to show where I have cherry-picked anything petal. Wink
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Reply #9 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:14pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:27pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:01pm:
and what is the real price you put on f.cking up the planet by setting fire to coal and gas ? Of course the prices you quoted don't take that into account do they


You have made no case. So what if average temps increase by 2C. it already does that daily as well as seasonally.

Of course people don't live globally, so a global temperature affects no-one.

But please tell us exactly what we can expect in a warming world. Without the use of models as they show no evidence of prediction. Climate models have not been verified or validated.

"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future exact climate states is not possible." IPCC


WTF? Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #10 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:28pm
 
macman wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:14pm:
WTF?



You believe you live where there are global temperatures? Oh dear.

Climate temperatures only affect where you live. Your local temperature increasing by an average 2C is not, despite protestations to the contrary, going to kill you.

More people die from cold than hot. So a warming world is a net benefit. Wink

And of course it has already warmed a little. So little you wouldn't even realise, if you weren't constantly bombarded from all corners.
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Reply #11 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:39pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:28pm:
macman wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:14pm:
WTF?



You believe you live where there are global temperatures? Oh dear.

Climate temperatures only affect where you live. Your local temperature increasing by an average 2C is not, despite protestations to the contrary, going to kill you.

More people die from cold than hot. So a warming world is a net benefit. Wink

And of course it has already warmed a little. So little you wouldn't even realise, if you weren't constantly bombarded from all corners.



Yes - many scientists claim that the world has warmed 1 degree in the last 100 years.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:45pm:
Who's participating tomorrow to save our planet or what's left of it after greed incorporated has raped and pillaged it ?



YAY!!!! The Childrens' Crusade for the EVVIROMEN!!!!  YAY!

All Special Eds unite!  Yay!
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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Yes - many scientists claim that the world has warmed 1 degree in the last 100 years.


Yes. and if we don't keep under that extra 0.5C we're all gunna DIIEEE
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Reply #14 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:54pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Yes - many scientists claim that the world has warmed 1 degree in the last 100 years.


Yes. and if we don't keep under that extra 0.5C we're all gunna DIIEEE



But the scientists forget to tell us that we didn't have ocean sensors all over the world 100 years ago
& many of the places where temperature was recorded are now heat islands
surrounded by concrete.
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