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Reply #15 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:01am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:41am:
I wonder what percentage of women are liars according to Hanson?

Does she have any percentage in mind?

1%?

50%?

90%?

Where does she get any evidence from for such a claim?  Roll Eyes




it doesnt really matter how many the thing is it does happen and the courts accept it.....

Pauline is just saying this is going on and its not right... Sad

once upon a time men got away with domestic violence by blaming alcohol... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  that changed and lying to the court needs to change as well.
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Reply #16 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:03am
 
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:56am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:35am:
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:29am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:19am:
She's just appealing to her idiot home base again ... you know, all those folks who liked it better all those years ago?

Meanwhile, a woman dies every week at the hands of her partner or ex-partner..




yes that is true  however  it has nothing to do with women lying in court to achieve their own end...

and yes they do.....LIE in court......

its silly to thinks DV is a one way street...

the old saying a women scorned.. is very true....

they are not all liars  but sadly the few that are do women no service whatever.


Well of course .. but where should the focus be?





on those who do LIE and get caught....

.there needs to be a substantial sentence involved...

look at the women who have been caught lying about the paternity and taking years of child support lying both to the man and the child

everything involved in domestic violence is UGLY...

it all needs exposing....



No. The focus need to be on the fact that one woman dies every week at the hands of their partner or ex-partner.

Of course some women lie. Some men do too. It's human nature. And i agree that such lies should be dealt with harshly ... as should engaging in parental alienation which i firmly believe to be a form of child abuse.

But using parliamentary privilege to go after your son's ex and in doing it shoot a shot across the bow of family violence prevention (which is already pushing poo uphill)( is beyond irresponsible; it's downright dangerous.
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Reply #17 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:10am
 
Women have been lying to get what they wanted for centuries. Look at Juliar Gillard!!!!!
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Reply #18 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:14am
 
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:03am:
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:56am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:35am:
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:29am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:19am:
She's just appealing to her idiot home base again ... you know, all those folks who liked it better all those years ago?

Meanwhile, a woman dies every week at the hands of her partner or ex-partner..




yes that is true  however  it has nothing to do with women lying in court to achieve their own end...

and yes they do.....LIE in court......

its silly to thinks DV is a one way street...

the old saying a women scorned.. is very true....

they are not all liars  but sadly the few that are do women no service whatever.


Well of course .. but where should the focus be?





on those who do LIE and get caught....

.there needs to be a substantial sentence involved...

look at the women who have been caught lying about the paternity and taking years of child support lying both to the man and the child

everything involved in domestic violence is UGLY...

it all needs exposing....



No. The focus need to be on the fact that one woman dies every week at the hands of their partner or ex-partner.

Of course some women lie. Some men do too. It's human nature. And i agree that such lies should be dealt with harshly ... as should engaging in parental alienation which i firmly believe to be a form of child abuse.

But using parliamentary privilege to go after your son's ex and in doing it shoot a shot across the bow of family violence prevention (which is already pushing poo uphill)( is beyond irresponsible; it's downright dangerous.



you dont know that mothra.......sometimes experience can be a good thing.....she is bringing up something that is never talked about.......

as for women dying  what do you think they should do that will stop that???????

what about the children that die????..

they never get a mention when it comes to dv...

we humans are responsible for dv... not some beaurocrat .. where does it start / why does it start/ is this violence born in them.....questions questions....

what can we do to prevent DV in the first place...
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Reply #19 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:20am
 
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:14am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:03am:
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:56am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:35am:
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:29am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:19am:
She's just appealing to her idiot home base again ... you know, all those folks who liked it better all those years ago?

Meanwhile, a woman dies every week at the hands of her partner or ex-partner..




yes that is true  however  it has nothing to do with women lying in court to achieve their own end...

and yes they do.....LIE in court......

its silly to thinks DV is a one way street...

the old saying a women scorned.. is very true....

they are not all liars  but sadly the few that are do women no service whatever.


Well of course .. but where should the focus be?





on those who do LIE and get caught....

.there needs to be a substantial sentence involved...

look at the women who have been caught lying about the paternity and taking years of child support lying both to the man and the child

everything involved in domestic violence is UGLY...

it all needs exposing....



No. The focus need to be on the fact that one woman dies every week at the hands of their partner or ex-partner.

Of course some women lie. Some men do too. It's human nature. And i agree that such lies should be dealt with harshly ... as should engaging in parental alienation which i firmly believe to be a form of child abuse.

But using parliamentary privilege to go after your son's ex and in doing it shoot a shot across the bow of family violence prevention (which is already pushing poo uphill)( is beyond irresponsible; it's downright dangerous.



you dont know that mothra.......sometimes experience can be a good thing.....she is bringing up something that is never talked about.......

as for women dying  what do you think they should do that will stop that???????

what about the children that die????..

they never get a mention when it comes to dv...

we humans are responsible for dv... not some beaurocrat .. where does it start / why does it start/ is this violence born in them.....questions questions....

what can we do to prevent DV in the first place...




Rubbish Cods. It's talked about relentlessly and almost every woman is accused of lying.

There are entire organisations that exist on the premise that women are usually lying. The internet and talk back shows reek of it.

If you want evidence of the kinds of grubby sentiments that follow Hanson's once-again dangerous rhetoric, look at what is coming out (and will yet come out) in this thread alone.

Meanwhile, a woman dies every week at the hands of her partner or ex-partner.
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Reply #20 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:39am
 
Hanson should be removed from the co-chair position immediately after displaying her bias even before the inquiry begins.

What a friggin bogan she is!

Can you believe it.  Angry Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #21 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:47am
 
Reddy is to be commended for not continuing the dopey idea of copying a great long previous post and adding an irrelevant line of slosh.


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Patriotic Pauline is just the sort of tough person like Dutto that Australia needs to keep the lid on the evil Chinese Labor Party
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Reply #22 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:50am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:39am:
Hanson should be removed from the co-chair position immediately after displaying her bias even before the inquiry begins.

Indeed, she should.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:39am:
What a friggin bogan she is!

Yep.  A stupid one at that.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:39am:
Can you believe it. 

Unfortunately, yes.

Nothing this corrupt & inept government does surprises me anymore.
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Reply #23 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 10:53am
 
Gweggy amazes with his awesome intellect which seems to have holes in it where the facts all seem to fall thru.

Gweggy you are competing with Munkee from the GetUp! Propaganda Site in the race to the bottom.
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Reply #24 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:02pm
 
Who let the Pauline attack dogs out.
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Reply #25 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:45pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:13am:
I know of at least three men who have been falsely accused of domestic violence, so that their spouses can get more.
These three men I have known for many years and I can swear that they are not abusive or violent toward anyone, especially their wives and children.

I know of at least a dozen at work who are being threatened by they spouses with the same bullshite.
They come to me requesting assistance through our employee assistance programme.
I do not know what they are like intimately, but I can see the hopelessness and effect of the intimidation they receive.
A couple of them are on suicide watch.

I do know two who are in fact abusive, but their spouses will not report them.

There are two sides to every coin.
Yes there are abusive relationships
Sometimes the woman is the instigator, using verbal abuse and threats to hound and destroy the man.
Sometime the man lashes out and is crucified for it.

Once women were lashed for being a harping wife
Perhaps this needs to be brought back.



Sounds like you shouldn't hang out with so many people who beat their wives.

Nobody I know has ever once been accused of anything like that.
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Reply #26 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:51pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 7:57am:
Where does Hanson get her information....I would like some more evidence based reasoning apart from Hanson's opinion before I believe anything this woman says....Just using Hanson's logic in not believing woman who cannot support their argument with proof???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No idea where H gets her info on this ....  pretty hard to prove one way or the other ...
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Reply #27 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 12:53pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 8:10am:
And of course what is not mentioned there is that Hanson has disclosed (using the protection of parliamentary privilege) that her Son was accused (of course she claims, falsely) by his ex of sexual misconduct with their child.  Sure, Hanson has no axe to grind.  She should take NO part in that enquiry.



Anyone can be accused - doesn't necessarily make the accusation right ... be interested to know the details of this Hanson one....
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Reply #28 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:00pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:29am:
mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:19am:
She's just appealing to her idiot home base again ... you know, all those folks who liked it better all those years ago?

Meanwhile, a woman dies every week at the hands of her partner or ex-partner..




yes that is true  however  it has nothing to do with women lying in court to achieve their own end...

and yes they do.....LIE in court......

its silly to thinks DV is a one way street...

the old saying a women scorned.. is very true....

they are not all liars  but sadly the few that are do women no service whatever.


It could well be that such actions as lying in court and slandering someone is a 'trigger' for a killing... a full survey and review of all such things, with some defining groupings - would be interesting..... I once asked the NSW Police service if they kept figures on the number of fatals that followed directly from such proceedings, even as simple as 'seeking a DVO' (for which there is a zero standard of proof) ... of course they don't... too hard and might show a different picture from the publicly desired one...

How many are killed in a fist fight with the old man while both are drunk?  How many of certain ethnic groups and in what kind of situation?  Plenty of room there for a proper study of this phenomenon instead of bare figures.

Same with children killings - this year it seems the women are far ahead there... but someone has been paid hush money ...


Bit dated, but hey:-

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/mothers-who-murder-their-children

Again - this is an area that would benefit from a review that included 'cultural differences' - it is a known fact that certain groups do more of these crimes than others...... but it's not PC to mention that...   Cool
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Reply #29 - Sep 19th, 2019 at 1:05pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 9:41am:
I wonder what percentage of women are liars according to Hanson?

Does she have any percentage in mind?

1%?

50%?

90%?

Where does she get any evidence from for such a claim?  Roll Eyes


Sometimes they are not 'lying' as such - but are existing within a system that encourages them to find the avenue that will give to them the best outcome for themselves.... never known a woman yet to look a gift horse in the mouth...

It's just an extension of the no holds barred knock down -drag 'em out style of arranged conflict in the 'courts' ... when it is based on antagonism, there are no rules in a knife fight...

Bonus Question:-  Is it time for our legal system to grow out of the Medieval Jousting Tournament and become one that actually seeks truth as the only arbiter and equal treatment as the absolute yardstick?

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