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Sep 15th, 2019 at 10:36am
 
Australian woman jailed in Iran named as Melbourne academic Kylie Moore-Gilbert

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/11513580

The Australian woman convicted and jailed in Iran has been named as University of Melbourne academic Kylie Moore-Gilbert.

Another Australian couple, Perth travel bloggers Mark Firkin and Jolie King, have also been arrested and are being held in Tehran in an unrelated incident.

Dr Moore-Gilbert is a Middle East expert at the University of Melbourne's Asia Institute, specialising in Arab Gulf states. She has also studied at Cambridge.

There are no details as to what Dr Moore-Gilbert is accused of. She was arrested and convicted late last year.

Senator Payne previously confirmed three Australians were behind bars in Iran, telling Parliament the Federal Government had been lobbying for their release.

The Department's Smartraveller website urges people to reconsider the need to travel to Iran "due to the risk that foreigners, including Australians, could be arbitrarily detained or arrested."
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Reply #1 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 11:53am
 
This has more to do with big-power politics than Islam, FD.  Wrong forum for your gripe.  There is already a thread in the General forum for you to write in.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm
 
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.
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Reply #3 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.


How many Australians are being detained in Saudi Arabia, FD?

I'm curious.
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Reply #4 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.


You and your Islamist friends may believe that but reality indicates otherwise, FD.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:55pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.


You and your Islamist friends may believe that but reality indicates otherwise, FD.   Roll Eyes


Muhammad and his successors created the largest empire that had ever existed. To this day Muslims try to restore that power.
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Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:20pm
 
The Australian government has no influence in Iran.

An Australian passport automatically creates suspicion because Israel has been using fake Australian passports for years.

Below is a fake passport used in an Israeli murder squad.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-26/mossad-factory-churned-out-fake-australia...

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Mossad 'factory' churned out fake Australian passports
AM Middle East correspondent Anne Barker
Updated 26 Feb 2010, 4:52am

A former Mossad officer has alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations.

Relations between Australia and Israel are under strain after three Australian passports were apparently used by suspects in the killing of top Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh in Dubai last month.

Dubai police say they are 99 per cent sure Mossad was behind the operation to smother Mabhouh with a pillow in his hotel room.

Victor Ostrovsky, a case officer at Mossad for several years in the 1980s, says he has no doubt Australian passports have been forged or fraudulently used for similar operations in the past.

"They need passports because you can't go around with an Israeli passport, not even a forged one, and get away or get involved with people from the Arab world," he said.

"They'll shy away right away. So most of these [Mossad] operations are carried out on what's called false flag, which means you pretend to be of another country which is less belligerent to those countries that you're trying to recruit from.

"If they can obtain blank passports, which they have in the past from Canada, from England, they do. If not, they just manufacture them."

He says a company within Mossad headquarters is dedicated to forging passports.

"They create various types of papers, every kind of ink. It's a very, very expensive research department," he said.

He says the manufactured passports are almost identical to the originals.

"If they create a passport at a top level for use of that nature ... I don't think anybody will be able to find the difference," he said.

Mr Ostrovsky says fraudulent Australian passports have been used regularly.

"Consider the fact that Australians speak English and it's an easy cover to take, very few people know very much about Australia," he said.

"You can tell whatever stories you want. It doesn't take much of an accent to be an Australian or New Zealander, or an Englishman for that matter. And I know people had been under Australian cover not once [but] quite a few times. So why not use it?"

He says Mossad chooses which passports to forge based on the cover agents need and the operation they are involved in.

"At the time there were people that were asked ... 'If when you're here in Israel we may need for security purposes to use your passport, would you allow us to do that?'" he said.

"And people would say 'yes'. There were shelves upon shelves of real passports just waiting to be used."

Mr Ostrovsky says there is no chance any of the 26 suspects could really be Mossad agents.

"No, absolutely not," he said.

"Except for James Bond, who actually pronounces or announces his arrival at the scene by saying, 'I'm Bond, James Bond'.

"Most people who work in the intelligence field don't present themselves by their real name."

Israel has long rejected Mr Ostrovsky's claims and tried to stop his book from being published.

This morning Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmour told ABC NewsRadio there was no proof of any link between Israel and Mabhouh's death.

"No evidence was presented by the Dubai police that links Israel to the incident in Dubai," he said.

"Since there is no evidence of that nature and since the Dubai police have so far not presented any ultimate evidence, we don't think that we should respond to anything." 
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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:49pm
 


Iran.

Shia moslems.



Shia, are a so much more civil elucidation of the religion of ISLAM,
....than what those Sunni madmen exhibit !

/sarc off




p.s.

The images which Gordon posted, here ------- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1568440821/1#1

Those images, show 'an example' which the Shia moslem proudly exhibits,
...in expressing his deep religious devotion to Allah.



Allah, he is the greatest,       ..isn't he!!! ?




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Deuteronomy 14:1
Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves.....



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Reply #8 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:55pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.


You and your Islamist friends may believe that but reality indicates otherwise, FD.   Roll Eyes


Muhammad and his successors created the largest empire that had ever existed. To this day Muslims try to restore that power.


Been down this path before, FD.  You are merely repeating the same old lies you always use.  The Muslim empire was considerably smaller than the Mongol Empire and insignificant compared to the British Empire.   This is in both land area and population.

The Islamists may wish to restore the Muslim Empire but that is as likely as the Mongols restoring theirs or the British, theirs.   You may want that to occur but you appear to be a complete fantasist in that regard.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 3:13pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:58pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:55pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.


You and your Islamist friends may believe that but reality indicates otherwise, FD.   Roll Eyes


Muhammad and his successors created the largest empire that had ever existed. To this day Muslims try to restore that power.


Been down this path before, FD.  You are merely repeating the same old lies you always use.  The Muslim empire was considerably smaller than the Mongol Empire and insignificant compared to the British Empire.   This is in both land area and population.

The Islamists may wish to restore the Muslim Empire but that is as likely as the Mongols restoring theirs or the British, theirs.   You may want that to occur but you appear to be a complete fantasist in that regard.  Roll Eyes


You realise you are not actually contradicting me, right Brian? IIRC, this was patiently explained to you last time also, but it took some time for you to get it.

Mongol and British are not a religion. Islam is.

ISIS still managed to kill and rape in large numbers, in the name of Islam, even if they failed their ultimate goal.
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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 3:35pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Below is a fake passport used in an Israeli murder squad.



I doubt that there is anything fake about it, except for the non aussie on it ...i'd bet the aussie gov. provided it for mossads use. Wink
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Reply #12 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 3:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:58pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 2:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:55pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Islam is big-power politics Brian.

Or at least, it tries to be.


You and your Islamist friends may believe that but reality indicates otherwise, FD.   Roll Eyes


Muhammad and his successors created the largest empire that had ever existed. To this day Muslims try to restore that power.


Been down this path before, FD.  You are merely repeating the same old lies you always use.  The Muslim empire was considerably smaller than the Mongol Empire and insignificant compared to the British Empire.   This is in both land area and population.

The Islamists may wish to restore the Muslim Empire but that is as likely as the Mongols restoring theirs or the British, theirs.   You may want that to occur but you appear to be a complete fantasist in that regard.  Roll Eyes


You realise you are not actually contradicting me, right Brian? IIRC, this was patiently explained to you last time also, but it took some time for you to get it.

Mongol and British are not a religion. Islam is.

ISIS still managed to kill and rape in large numbers, in the name of Islam, even if they failed their ultimate goal.


The Mongols, I grant you were not a religious empire.  Indeed, unusually for the period, they practised religious tolerance.

The British OTOH were - they openly and actively promoted Christianity where ever they went.

However, their religiosity had little to do with the size of their Empires.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
Jesus did not found the British Empire. Muhammad did found the Caliphate. It was the biggest empire that had ever existed. Do you still think you are contradicting anything I say Brian? I am happy to explain it to you again if you have forgotten.

Muslims feel compelled by their religion to re-establish the Caliphate. I have never heard of anyone who feels compelled by their religion to re-establish the British Empire, because contrary to your idiotic dribble, it was not a religious empire, anymore than it was a whinging empire.
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Reply #14 - Sep 15th, 2019 at 7:11pm
 
Immaterial.  Your claim that the Muslim Empire was the largest has been proved false, FD.

Care to make a new statement that we can prove is false again?  Roll Eyes
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