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Re: There will be no new little ice age
Reply #15 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:19pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:17pm:

Yes, “petal” we should be cooling right now:

1. Milankovitch cycle reducing TSI a bit

2. Sun went a bit quiet in 1980s

3. Man made aerosols are cooling us

Yet we are warming, warming more rapidly than the globe has warmed in the past.

Monk - what are you going to say if the coming winter
in the Northern hemisphere is the worst & coldest in recorded human history?
I'm talking about going back for 10,000 years.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43656 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #16 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:21pm Booby, a GSM will, at most, cool by 0.2°C. AGW is warming us about 0.2°C per decade. Exactly what do you think a GSM will do?
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16432 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #17 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:27pm Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:17pm: Yet we are warming, warming more rapidly than the globe has warmed in the past. only with the hokey (sic) stick.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43656 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #18 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:34pm We are warming and we are warming more rapidly than has happened naturally in the past. We are warming despite two natural and one anthropogenic forcings that are cooling us. AGW is not only real but powerful.
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Re: There will be no new little ice age
Reply #19 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:35pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Booby, a GSM will, at most, cool by 0.2°C.

AGW is warming us about 0.2°C per decade. Exactly what do you think a GSM will do?

Monk - listen up -

they say in boxing - when someone gets knocked out -
it happens!

If it's true that mankind has altered the climate
it may not warm up at all -
if you would have bothered to read the closed loop weather system papers
that I linked to you one time you'd find out
that it's more complex than your simple mind can cope with.

If you would have read Robert Felix's book -
not by Fire but by Ice -
you'd see it happens - it's happened before many times.

Within a short period of time -
no more than 3 years - the world can enter an ice age
of catastrophic proportions.
Maybe man will trigger it?
The closed system will go in the opposite direction if you try to warm
the climate & head into an ice age -
I hope not - but it happens.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43656 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #20 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 3:37pm AGW is warming the globe despite: 1. Milankovitch cycle acting to cool us 2. The sun going a bit quiet in the 1980s is acting to cool us 3. Anthropogenic aerosols are cooling us. Despite that we are warming faster than has happened naturally in the past. Have a look:
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16432 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #21 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 4:35pm Poor petal clinging lovingly, despairingly at Mann et al. Despite the lack of SH data for much or the period.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43656 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #22 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 5:27pm Poor Princess Leea, beset with so many sorrows. Dear old wise FD told the Princess “At least two dozen other studies support the hockey stick” (or closer to 50 studies that do but let that go.) So Princess Leea is a Lyah.
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Re: There will be no new little ice age
Reply #23 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 6:17pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

Dear old wise FD told the Princess “At least two dozen other studies support the hockey stick” (or closer to 50 studies that do but let that go.)

So consensus is now science. Grin

But tell us more about your Marcott graph that you are so proud of. And how the "hockey stick end is not "robust." Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43656 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #24 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:04pm *
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16432 Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #26 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:52pm Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:25pm: This was predicted: "NASA – Next solar cycle will be weakest in 200 years" https://www.iceagenow.info/nasa-next-solar-cycle-will-be-weakest-in-200-years/
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95495 Melbourne Gender:	Re: There will be no new little ice age Reply #27 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:00pm lee wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:52pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:25pm: This was predicted: "NASA – Next solar cycle will be weakest in 200 years" https://www.iceagenow.info/nasa-next-solar-cycle-will-be-weakest-in-200-years/ Monk doesn't know.
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Re: There will be no new little ice age
Reply #28 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 1:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

lee wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

This was predicted:

"NASA – Next solar cycle will be weakest in 200 years"

Monk doesn't know.

Who cares? Did NASA also state that the whole planet is going to cool as a result? No.

The notion that we are heading into an ice age is garbage science put forward by:
Youtubers
Bloggers
Non-qualified people who speak to the subject matter.

I am yet to see a peer reviewed scientific study that agrees / demonstrates that we are going to enter a new ice age as a result of the current GSM. When you or anyone has a credible source please come back to me.

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Re: There will be no new little ice age
Reply #29 - Sep 17^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

Debunking David Dubyne wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

lee wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

This was predicted:

"NASA – Next solar cycle will be weakest in 200 years"

Monk doesn't know.

Who cares? Did NASA also state that the whole planet is going to cool as a result? No.

The notion that we are heading into an ice age is garbage science put forward by:
Youtubers
Bloggers
Non-qualified people who speak to the subject matter.

I am yet to see a peer reviewed scientific study that agrees / demonstrates that we are going to enter a new ice age as a result of the current GSM. When you or anyone has a credible source please come back to me.

Hi Monk,
what about Robert Felix?

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