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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #30 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:50am

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:17am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form.

You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope.

What a good person you turned out to be.

You too!

The old "I can but you cant"

If you don't like it, kill yourself

It doesn't bother me what the alphabets want to be known as, so I guess your post refers to anyone else who may be losing their mind.

Interesting how you get entertainment out of the same thing....but different because your entertainment comes from outside the minority circle, yet are critical of me. Wink

Well done.

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #31 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 12:17pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:17am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form.

You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope.

What a good person you turned out to be.

You too!

The old "I can but you cant"

If you don't like it, kill yourself

It doesn't bother me what the alphabets want to be known as, so I guess your post refers to anyone else who may be losing their mind.

Interesting how you get entertainment out of the same thing....but different because your entertainment comes from outside the minority circle, yet are critical of me. Wink

Well done.

Nobody is perfect.

Those unhappy with the notion of legislative changes, I'm with you there, but those having a whinge about what others want to be called, it is entertaining that these people who are the same crowd who make fun of safe spaces etc are being such snowflakes.

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #33 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else.

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #34 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:10pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 12:17pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:17am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form.

You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope.

What a good person you turned out to be.

You too!

The old "I can but you cant"

If you don't like it, kill yourself

It doesn't bother me what the alphabets want to be known as, so I guess your post refers to anyone else who may be losing their mind.

Interesting how you get entertainment out of the same thing....but different because your entertainment comes from outside the minority circle, yet are critical of me. Wink

Well done.

Nobody is perfect.

Those unhappy with the notion of legislative changes, I'm with you there, but those having a whinge about what others want to be called, it is entertaining that these people who are the same crowd who make fun of safe spaces etc are being such snowflakes.

really? Snowflakes are the needy for such spaces.

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #35 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #36 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. Roll Eyes

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #37 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:06pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. Roll Eyes

Who said it wasn't?

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #38 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. Roll Eyes

Who said it wasn't?

They did

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #39 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:09pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. Roll Eyes

Who said it wasn't?

They did

Spot

Yes.

Not me, that's for sure.

I'm just pointing out that 'they' has been used as a singular pronoun since at least the 1300s.

It's NOT always a plural.

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Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’
Reply #40 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-...

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. Roll Eyes

Who said it wasn't?

They did

Spot

Yes.

Not me, that's for sure.

I'm just pointing out that 'they' has been used as a singular pronoun since at least the 1300s.

It's NOT always a plural.

I used to hang in a chatroom online and you coudlnt tell what gender someone was by their name usually (like here sometimes) so a few of us just used "they". In this internet age its more handy than ever and doesnt have to have anything to do with trans.

Spot

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16088 Central Coast Gender:	Re: ‘They’ Not ‘He’ Reply #41 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 5:21pm The mentally ill minority want to be referred to with some stupid names or weird labels. Then they get all pissed off when a normal human don't know what to call them. Screw them, if they are male, they is a he. If they are female, they is a she If they dress up like some idiot, they are freaks. Get used to it people.
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Reply #42 - Sep 16^th, 2019 at 6:33pm

So the Man thinks that 'acting and dressing' like a Woman - justifies him to be 'treated as a woman'.
That even having a 'fabricated' female enhancement via Medical procedures - earns 'him' the right to be Medically 'certified' as a Female.

And now 'they' (inclusion of both female & male... versions) consider themselves (no need to ask 'the normal' people what 'they' think) as 'They' (Group).

They sent me down into the Cold Room, where the bodies are kept. It was my first time in a filled Cold Room. I was told to accompany an EN who was a transexual (and partnered to a male Security Guard) to make some more room for another body to be brought down in an hour. The only thing that annoyed me more that I was purposely being set up to 'put up a stink' about him being a Transexual into a her, was the sublime smell in the Cold Room that almost sucks the moisture out of one's throat when breathing. I didn't treat 'him' as a female. 'I' didn't see him that way, regardless if he thought that I should see him the way he wanted me to see him. At the most, he was just an 'actor' trying to be a woman/female - living a life of 'pretend'.

I don't think the World will ever fully accept such things as 'Normal' as it's more like a handicap of the 'para' normal, at the most. It's just another 'Sexual Dysfunction' of many out there, which can render the person so confused they don't know 'what' they are? Homosexuality is in that group of Sexual Handicap, that is in there with such things as Animal Sex, Paedophilia, Rape, Masturbation, Adultery and all the Sexual Flaws of what Sex is really for (It's really quite 'simple' - anyone should be able to do it.).

The odd one out is the NON-Sexual. You do or you don't, but somewhere down there are all the ones that couldn't make that choice and tried to make excuses for their failures in regards to the many sexual dysfunctions that are no different in their manifestations as that of Financial Foolishness and Failure.

So I just did my 'job' and really couldn't give a flying f*uck in regards to 'who' he was. To me, he was an example of where the Medical Industry was going wrong.

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