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Re: The Democratic Party Is Fatally Attracted To Hardc
Reply #15 - Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:05am

The Mechs and Serials of the world would never praise or credit Hillary or Obama for any of their positive work. I have no problem with crediting Trump where it is due.

It's just that so many of the triumphs that Trump gets credit for, there is a lot to the story that is left out and often it's the work of others he takes credit for.

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Re: The Democratic Party Is Fatally Attracted To Hardc
Reply #16 - Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:23am

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

The Mechs and Serials of the world would never praise or credit Hillary or Obama for any of their positive work. I have no problem with crediting Trump where it is due.

It's just that so many of the triumphs that Trump gets credit for, there is a lot to the story that is left out and often it's the work of others he takes credit for.

Or, he's just cleaning up his own mess.

I give him full marks for sacking Bolton.

Well done Mr Trump - an excellent decision.

Not hiring him in the first place would have been a much better move though.

It's hard to give him too much credit for draining the swamp when he's the one filling it.

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Re: The Democratic Party Is Fatally Attracted To Hardc
Reply #17 - Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

The Mechs and Serials of the world would never praise or credit Hillary or Obama for any of their positive work. I have no problem with crediting Trump where it is due.

It's just that so many of the triumphs that Trump gets credit for, there is a lot to the story that is left out and often it's the work of others he takes credit for.

Or, he's just cleaning up his own mess.

I give him full marks for sacking Bolton.

Well done Mr Trump - an excellent decision.

Not hiring him in the first place would have been a much better move though.

It's hard to give him too much credit for draining the swamp when he's the one filling it.

I'm happy to praise Trump for that, even if as you said Bolton was a mess he created, and his motives behind it were ego-driven as usual.

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Re: The Democratic Party Is Fatally Attracted To Hardc
Reply #18 - Sep 18^th, 2019 at 11:11am

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

The Mechs and Serials of the world would never praise or credit Hillary or Obama for any of their positive work.

I have no problem with crediting Trump where it is due.

It's just that so many of the triumphs that Trump gets credit for, there is a lot to the story that is left out and often it's the work of others he takes credit for.

You political SOCIALISTS can't face the ugly truth's, about the REAL consequences of socialist political policies.

Q.
Why won't those who claim that they support socialist political policies, declare their support, for the record of past socialist political leaders ?

Hmmm. Perhaps i'm mistaken ! Perhaps they are willing, to praise the accomplishments of past socialist political leaders !

???

My opinion, is that they do NOT praise the 'accomplishments' of past socialist political leaders,
because they logically, CANNOT.

Because, invariably, the record of past socialist political leaders, has been a record of political, social and national disasters, for those particular states !

.

TRAIN WRECK EXAMPLES [from recent political history];

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was a Socialist.

December 21, 2009
Quote:

AMY GOODMAN: You sell more oil to the United States than any country but Canada. Your economy depends on oil, yet you are here at a climate change summit. What’s your proposal?

PRESIDENT HUGO CHÁVEZ: [translated] The problem is not the oil, but what they do with the oil. The United States is the biggest spender of oil and of all the planet resources. Oil is a very valuable resource for life—electric heaters. We must have to transition ourselves to a post-oil era. And that’s what we must discuss: searching and developing new sources of energy. And that requires scientific research. That requires investment. And the developed countries must be the ones to assume this responsibility first.

AMY GOODMAN: What level of emissions are you willing to support reductions of emissions?

PRESIDENT HUGO CHÁVEZ: [translated] One hundred percent. One hundred percent. We must reduce the emissions 100 percent. In Venezuela, the emissions are currently insignificant compared to the emissions of the developed countries. We are in agreement. We must reduce all the emissions that are destroying the planet. However, that requires a change in lifestyle, a change in the economic model: We must go from capitalism to socialism. That’s the real solution.

- WWW search

Q.
What IS the REAL legacy, for Venezuela, which was the 'product' of the Socialist policies of, ex-President Hugo Chavez ???

A.
Human corruption, injustice, poverty, political chaos and violence and societal upheaval.

.

Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe's longtime president, was a Socialist.

Read the MSM, Robert Mugabe was politically a 'progressive', and was hailed as a liberator of [his] African people.

A great man.

WWW search....
robert mugabe was a great man, liberator

WWW search....
tributes pour in for robert mugabe

WWW search....
zimbabwe's president declares mugabe national hero

ALL, A GROSS MISREPRESENTATION, OF ROBERT MUGABE'S REAL PERSONA.

Q.
What IS the REAL legacy for Zimbabwe, which was the 'product' of the Socialist policies of, ex-President Robert Mugabe ???

A.
Human corruption, injustice, poverty, political chaos and violence and societal upheaval.

.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1568376236/0#0
Quote:

Hardcore Socialism, as a directing political force, in a society of men, is corrosive, of all human decency and fairness.

The observed consequences of Hardcore Socialism upon a human society,
is always, 1/ human corruption, and 2/ human injustice towards other human beings.

Not true ?

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Re: The Democratic Party Is Fatally Attracted To Hardc
Reply #19 - Sep 18^th, 2019 at 11:26am

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 11:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

The Mechs and Serials of the world would never praise or credit Hillary or Obama for any of their positive work.

I have no problem with crediting Trump where it is due.

It's just that so many of the triumphs that Trump gets credit for, there is a lot to the story that is left out and often it's the work of others he takes credit for.

You political SOCIALISTS can't face the ugly truth's, about the REAL consequences of socialist political policies.

Q.
Why won't those who claim that they support socialist political policies, declare their support, for the record of past socialist political leaders ?

Hmmm. Perhaps i'm mistaken ! Perhaps they are willing, to praise the accomplishments of past socialist political leaders !

???

My opinion, is that they do NOT praise the 'accomplishments' of past socialist political leaders,
because they logically, CANNOT.

Because, invariably, the record of past socialist political leaders, has been a record of political, social and national disasters, for those particular states !

.

TRAIN WRECK EXAMPLES [from recent political history];

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was a Socialist.

December 21, 2009
Quote:

AMY GOODMAN: You sell more oil to the United States than any country but Canada. Your economy depends on oil, yet you are here at a climate change summit. What’s your proposal?

PRESIDENT HUGO CHÁVEZ: [translated] The problem is not the oil, but what they do with the oil. The United States is the biggest spender of oil and of all the planet resources. Oil is a very valuable resource for life—electric heaters. We must have to transition ourselves to a post-oil era. And that’s what we must discuss: searching and developing new sources of energy. And that requires scientific research. That requires investment. And the developed countries must be the ones to assume this responsibility first.

AMY GOODMAN: What level of emissions are you willing to support reductions of emissions?

PRESIDENT HUGO CHÁVEZ: [translated] One hundred percent. One hundred percent. We must reduce the emissions 100 percent. In Venezuela, the emissions are currently insignificant compared to the emissions of the developed countries. We are in agreement. We must reduce all the emissions that are destroying the planet. However, that requires a change in lifestyle, a change in the economic model: We must go from capitalism to socialism. That’s the real solution.

- WWW search

Q.
What IS the REAL legacy, for Venezuela, which was the 'product' of the Socialist policies of, ex-President Hugo Chavez ???

A.
Human corruption, injustice, poverty, political chaos and violence and societal upheaval.

.

Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe's longtime president, was a Socialist.

Read the MSM, Robert Mugabe was politically a 'progressive', and was hailed as a liberator of [his] African people.

A great man.

WWW search....
robert mugabe was a great man, liberator

WWW search....
tributes pour in for robert mugabe

WWW search....
zimbabwe's president declares mugabe national hero

ALL, A GROSS MISREPRESENTATION, OF ROBERT MUGABE'S REAL PERSONA.

Q.
What IS the REAL legacy for Zimbabwe, which was the 'product' of the Socialist policies of, ex-President Robert Mugabe ???

A.
Human corruption, injustice, poverty, political chaos and violence and societal upheaval.

.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1568376236/0#0
Quote:

Hardcore Socialism, as a directing political force, in a society of men, is corrosive, of all human decency and fairness.

The observed consequences of Hardcore Socialism upon a human society,
is always, 1/ human corruption, and 2/ human injustice towards other human beings.

Not true ?

I don't know why you're even bringing up socialism, but, there is no doubt but there are huge issues with Socialism, but even so, only the conservatives are talking about it as being some sort of policy, not even the Dems are doing that...

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