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Re: 9/11 Jumpers
Reply #120 - Sep 18^th, 2019 at 9:52pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 12:11pm:

The only way a building can collapse like that is with controlled demolition.

Nothing else can explain it.

How did they get the explosives up in the towers in no considerably long time? And if they had demolition explosives already set, how did they not explode upon getting hit by the planes?

In the basement around foundations and lower floors.

As I recall, it were the upper levels that collapsed into themselves. There was no suggestion that the lower levels experienced an explosion.

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Re: 9/11 Jumpers
Reply #122 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 7:33am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

Railway lines are more prone to buckle these days because they are continuous weld without expansion joints.

Are you saying that there were no expansion joints in that entire building?

How then is it supposed to absorb energy forces ... like the supposed planes delivered

or handle 7.0 to 8.0 magnitude earthquakes?

When did New York last experience a Magnitude 7.0-8.0 earthquake? Roll Eyes

It has nowt to do with whether NY has had a Mag 7 or 8 earthquake .......

it's about building to a standard/capacity to withstand. Roll Eyes

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Re: 9/11 Jumpers
Reply #123 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 7:38am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 8:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:10pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 7:48am:

So all those same types of items burning in the Grenfell Tower( same materials ceiling tiles, insulation,gyprock, plywood, furniture etc) after being "ignited by the external cladding"

(you know just like being ignited by a plane bursting into flames on the external wall of the towers & some fuel going inside on the WTC)

The planes did not "burst into flames on the external walls" of the WTC. The planes penetrated through the external walls and burst into flames inside the WTC. Indeed, they nearly burst through the opposite external wall. The resulting explosion and fire weakened the steel structure which then collapsed, carrying the higher floors onto the lower floors which in turn collapsed. Roll Eyes

They fargin did .... Roll Eyes

No, they did not. If they had burnt on the exterior of the buildings, the buildings would have displayed burn marks around the entry holes of the aircraft. They did not. What you are observing is the planes entering the buildings and exploding and the explosion exiting the building via the windows on the exterior walls and the entry holes. You really do need to look more closely at your video. It supports my points, not yours. Roll Eyes

Bullshit ... if that fireball had exploded from the interior .... the holes in the building would have been much larger.

The holes were like slices not exploded from within.

The explosion occurred on impact & therefore the majority of the fuel fireball was on the exterior.

The fuel tanks are in the wings. Roll Eyes

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Re: 9/11 Jumpers
Reply #124 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 7:39am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 12:11pm:

The only way a building can collapse like that is with controlled demolition.

Nothing else can explain it.

How did they get the explosives up in the towers in no considerably long time? And if they had demolition explosives already set, how did they not explode upon getting hit by the planes?

In the basement around foundations and lower floors.

Yet, as we saw on the day, the upper stories collapsed first, not the lower stories immediately above the foundations and the lower floors. Roll Eyes

That's where witnesses said they heard explosions.

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Re: 9/11 Jumpers
Reply #125 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 12:51pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 7:33am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

Railway lines are more prone to buckle these days because they are continuous weld without expansion joints.

Are you saying that there were no expansion joints in that entire building?

How then is it supposed to absorb energy forces ... like the supposed planes delivered

or handle 7.0 to 8.0 magnitude earthquakes?

When did New York last experience a Magnitude 7.0-8.0 earthquake? Roll Eyes

It has nowt to do with whether NY has had a Mag 7 or 8 earthquake .......

it's about building to a standard/capacity to withstand. Roll Eyes

Why build to withstand a magnitude 7-8 level earthquake when New York AFAIK has never experienced an earthquake of that level? Roll Eyes

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Reply #126 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 12:57pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 8:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:10pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 7:48am:

So all those same types of items burning in the Grenfell Tower( same materials ceiling tiles, insulation,gyprock, plywood, furniture etc) after being "ignited by the external cladding"

(you know just like being ignited by a plane bursting into flames on the external wall of the towers & some fuel going inside on the WTC)

The planes did not "burst into flames on the external walls" of the WTC. The planes penetrated through the external walls and burst into flames inside the WTC. Indeed, they nearly burst through the opposite external wall. The resulting explosion and fire weakened the steel structure which then collapsed, carrying the higher floors onto the lower floors which in turn collapsed. Roll Eyes

They fargin did .... Roll Eyes

No, they did not. If they had burnt on the exterior of the buildings, the buildings would have displayed burn marks around the entry holes of the aircraft. They did not. What you are observing is the planes entering the buildings and exploding and the explosion exiting the building via the windows on the exterior walls and the entry holes. You really do need to look more closely at your video. It supports my points, not yours. Roll Eyes

Bullshit ... if that fireball had exploded from the interior .... the holes in the building would have been much larger.

Not necessarily. The floors above and below channaled the basts outwards to through the window openings. That is plainly visible on your video. You can see the planes entering the buildings and then a flash outwards through the windows and the entry hole. Indeed, one of the images distinctly shows the hole, sans signs of an exterior explosion as you have claimed, Gnads.

You are like the Conspiranuts who claimed no plane hit the Pentagon, simply because there was no sign of the plane hitting the pentagon, except the explosion itself. They were proved wrong with video footage from the car park, which the plane flew over. Roll Eyes

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The fuel tanks are in the wings.

And in the fuselage, Gnads. Roll Eyes

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Reply #127 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 12:58pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 7:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 12:11pm:

The only way a building can collapse like that is with controlled demolition.

Nothing else can explain it.

How did they get the explosives up in the towers in no considerably long time? And if they had demolition explosives already set, how did they not explode upon getting hit by the planes?

In the basement around foundations and lower floors.

Yet, as we saw on the day, the upper stories collapsed first, not the lower stories immediately above the foundations and the lower floors. Roll Eyes

That's where witnesses said they heard explosions.

The witnesses were mistaken. From the video footage, it is the upper stories which collapse first and the lower stories, second. Roll Eyes

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Re: 9/11 Jumpers
Reply #128 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 1:41pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 12^th, 2019 at 10:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 12^th, 2019 at 8:00pm:

No one risked paralysis jumping out of those towers.

It was certain death ... not one lived.

You don't know what happened in the moments before they jumped. We can only surmise that the fires had them trapped to the point that they either die burning. Else they fall to their deaths (or even chance cheating death by jumping, however remotely possible). I think the likely thought process was that they were trying to commit suicide rather than burn to death.

At least one person I saw was trying to climb their way down to safety, then lost their grip. Others were clearly suiciding.

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Reply #130 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 2:18pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 1:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 12^th, 2019 at 10:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 12^th, 2019 at 8:00pm:

No one risked paralysis jumping out of those towers.

It was certain death ... not one lived.

You don't know what happened in the moments before they jumped. We can only surmise that the fires had them trapped to the point that they either die burning. Else they fall to their deaths (or even chance cheating death by jumping, however remotely possible). I think the likely thought process was that they were trying to commit suicide rather than burn to death.

At least one person I saw was trying to climb their way down to safety, then lost their grip. Others were clearly suiciding.

It's not suicide you idiot.
They were murdered by muslims.

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Reply #131 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 3:17pm

oooh touchy. Are you still a mod Gordy?

If you deliberately jump out of a window knowing you will fall to your death - its suicide. Regardless of what put you in that situation in the first place.

But yes, I agree, if the 9/11 attackers had somehow survived and faced trial - then I would be all for adding those 'suicidees' to their list of murder charges.

But it was still suicide.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20223 Gordon Gender:	Re: 9/11 Jumpers Reply #132 - Sep 19^th, 2019 at 3:40pm They were murder and they jumped to SAVE THEMSELVES AN AGONISING DEATH. Good insight into your twisted Muslim mind tho.
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