Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13
th, 2019 at 12:49am:
It took FD a good 6 years to come around after Sept 11.
First, FD called for patience and tolerance.
Look, he said, not all Muslims are the same.
They deserve the right to practice their religion in peace.
And why are we invading Iraq when Osama's lying low God knows where?
What do we stand for if not tolerance, freedom and at least getting our facts right before invading a sovereign country, killing thousands, and for what?
Yes, FD was a true promoter of democracy, freedom and Western Enlightenment values.
He'd engage in erstwhile debates with Sprint, who'd do his usual monosyllabic grunts about hating and killing them.
This is a public forum, where anyone can present views and opinions and arguments, and evidences.
....about any currently topical issue.SUGGESTION;Present evidences, and arguments [in debate], and then choose what, for you, is truth and truthful.
[And that, imo, is what Freediver [and other visitors here] have done.]
n.b.
Freediver has NOT declared that some views must NOT be expressed on his forum.
What Freediver has said, in effect, is,
'Make your argument(s), and present your evidences,
....and the rest of us will judge what you say, and have said.'And i for one, thank Freediver, for making this open, public forum available to us.
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ARGUMENT;Moslems on this forum, have had every opportunity, to present reasoned argument and evidence,
......to refute arguments, made against ISLAM and against the followers of ISLAM, and presented in this forum.
The very best, which moslems and their apologists on this forum have presented, ....is 1/ denials [of arguments against ISLAM], and 2/ the vilification, of those who bring evidences, and arguments against ISLAM and the followers of ISLAM, in this forum.
FAIL !!!!
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RENEWED ARGUMENT;ISLAM teaches ALL of its followers, that they must hate, and fight and kill disbelievers.
ISLAM teaches ALL of its followers, that that, is their religious obligation, to their deity, Allah.
Even, ALL of the followers of ISLAM living in Australia.
The fact that moslems living in Australia do not commit more violence against Australians who are not moslems,
speaks more to the impotence of moslems living in Australia, than to any benign indifference to the commands of Allah, to fight and kill disbelievers.
Any reasonable person who has examined, and read, ISLAM's primary foundational religious text [the Koran] would be forced to acknowledge, that the Koran is a religious text, which promotes hatred of
ALL non-moslems -
AS A RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.
Again, ISLAM, is a deceitful and murderous, supremacist death cult.
QUESTION [to anyone];If followers of ISLAM [moslems]
do not ascribe and affirm, and agree with, the murderous and hateful precepts of ISLAM,
then why does every moslem, without exception,
choose to publicly associate himself, and to associate his life,
with ISLAM, and with the ISLAMIC community [a community
which promotes adherence to ISLAMIC laws and to ISLAMIC precepts] ?
ascribe = = (ascribe something to) attribute something to (a particular cause, person or period). regard a quality as belonging to.
affirm = = state emphatically or publicly. ratify (a judgement or agreement). make a formal declaration rather than taking an oath.Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1566168036/18#18.
Yadda wrote on Jun 17
th, 2019 at 5:45pm:
Every moslem, every moslem, every moslem, ...is urged by the doctrines of his/her religion,
...to hate and to murder 'disbelievers'
in the name of their religion.
THAT, is what the JIHAD is.
And choosing to deny that truth, ...won't make it untrue.WWW search....
al Walaa wal Baraa
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ARGUMENT;There won't be a solution [in Australia] to Jihad,
until all Australians are willing to accept,
that which is true about ISLAM, and about the followers of ISLAM.
i.e.
1/ Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.
2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must fight and kill people**, who reject ISLAM, and the primacy of ISLAMIC law.
....** just as soon as the moslem believes that 'now' is a good moment for him to prove his devotion to ISLAM and to Allah.
A solution ?
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QUARANTINE WORKS!!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34and....
The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0