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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	vegans may face higher stroke risk Sep 6^th, 2019 at 8:34pm Vegans at higher risk of disease and illness than meat eaters, who would have thought. https://thewest.com.au/news/health/british-medical-journal-study-finds-vegetaria...
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #1 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:27am What they dont say is its not because they dont eat meat but because of all the poisonous crap they eat instead of meat because the media tells them they have to have a meat "substitute". Spot
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Reply #2 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 8:11am

rhino wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

Vegans at higher risk of disease and illness than meat eaters, who would have thought.
https://thewest.com.au/news/health/british-medical-journal-study-finds-vegetaria...

I would of thought it reasonable that vegan activists suffer strokes ......

about 50 strokes of the rattan.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20223 Gordon Gender:	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #3 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 8:12am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:27am: What they dont say is its not because they dont eat meat but because of all the poisonous crap they eat instead of meat because the media tells them they have to have a meat "substitute". Spot Source?
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Reply #4 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 9:14am

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

What they dont say is its not because they dont eat meat but because of all the poisonous crap they eat instead of meat because the media tells them they have to have a meat "substitute".

Spot

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Common sense. They eat unprocessed soy among other things

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Reply #5 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 9:36am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 9:14am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

What they dont say is its not because they dont eat meat but because of all the poisonous crap they eat instead of meat because the media tells them they have to have a meat "substitute".

Spot

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Common sense. They eat unprocessed soy among other things

Spot

Which is a poor reflection on veganism.
Eggs and dairy is such a great and healthy source of protein.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80204 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #6 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 10:00am ... especially if they take on Spanish rabbit farmers ....
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Reply #7 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 10:02am

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 9:36am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 9:14am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:27am:

What they dont say is its not because they dont eat meat but because of all the poisonous crap they eat instead of meat because the media tells them they have to have a meat "substitute".

Spot

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Common sense. They eat unprocessed soy among other things

Spot

Which is a poor reflection on veganism.
Eggs and dairy is such a great and healthy source of protein.

One of the ex's kids is a Vegan - we've tried the

(stuff)

they eat, and there is a basic rule - if it tastes bad, it's not good for you - that stuff tastes bad .... fortunately his daughters don't follow in their dad's footsteps ... they eat meat in front of him ...

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6204 Gender:	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #8 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 10:15am Every vegan I meet seems really drawn in the face, skinny (boney), pale and they just don't look healthy. Good luck to them.
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Reply #9 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 4:26pm

I love tofu and eat it a few times a week and I also regularly eat chick peas, lentils which after a google I see are in the top 10 protein sources for vegans.

No 1 is Seitan which I've never heard of but is some manufactured crap made of wheat made to look like a meat loaf.

Dropping meat would be no drama for me if I keep eggs and dairy.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #10 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 5:07pm Tofu is usually safe although it's not as full of vitamins as you would think. It's the unprocessed stuff that's bad. The Asians turned it into Tofu and sit sauce for a reason. Spot
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20223 Gordon Gender:	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #11 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 5:25pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 5:07pm: Tofu is usually safe although it's not as full of vitamins as you would think. It's the unprocessed stuff that's bad. The Asians turned it into Tofu and sit sauce for a reason. Spot It should be an accompaniment or occasional main.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46482 Gender:	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 6:08pm Veganism isn't based on 'Unprocessed' rebellion. As many 'vegetables and fruits' are processed (let alone 'sprayed', etc) foods as well as meat. Besides Vegans verse Carnism, it will soon be 'Processed verse Wild '.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80204 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:17pm Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 10:15am: Every vegan I meet seems really drawn in the face, skinny (boney), pale and they just don't look healthy. Good luck to them. Not to mention their mental state...
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Reply #14 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:23pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2019 at 4:26pm:

I love tofu and eat it a few times a week and I also regularly eat chick peas, lentils which after a google I see are in the top 10 protein sources for vegans.

No 1 is Seitan which I've never heard of but is some manufactured crap made of wheat made to look like a meat loaf.

Dropping meat would be no drama for me if I keep eggs and dairy.

**yum** chick peas... the French call them 'poor peas' ... no idea why... maybe because they are a favourite with the pieds noirs...

Wow - just read a book about Arnhem (again - thanks Brian) post the battle and with the German revenge on the Dutch... apparently some girls who survived on tulip bulbs (yuk) instead of wheat were better off - but when they were fed 'Kelviinators from the sky' Yank white bread they developed coeliac ... many died....

No wonder the Dutch don't love the Germans... no wonder many Dutch emigrated ... The Lucky country has no internal wars... yet ...

This reminds you of the reality shown in Band of Brothers, where the concentration camp inmates could not be fed too much or too good food.. bring them on slowly .. too much of a shock to the system.

You need to bring them on slowly with increasing amounts of an increasingly rich soup, then stew ... keep the hydration up and slowly introduce vitamins and minerals and such ...

Damn I hate to see starving children...

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