UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 12
th, 2019 at 10:19pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 12
th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 10
th, 2019 at 4:37pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9
th, 2019 at 10:47am:
It nearly costs the farmer $1 a litre to produce & in QLD they are getting 57 cents farm gate price.
Speaking of people who don't have a clue, you should understand that only 3 months ago they were selling milk for $1/L at the groceries. The problem for farmers was that the costs associated with the milk production was not being met. They could scrap by on making a profit that barely got them through the week. Adding 10c/L to the cost of the milk (which was added on to what the dairy farmer received) was a real boost to the dary farmers.
If it cost the farmer $1 a litre to produce milk, the farmer would have gone on to doing something more profitable. I don't believe you wrote that crap.
Supermarkets selling watered down shyte $1 milk is the problem ... durrrrh
Oh yes, "watered down milk". That I can believe. Atleast we can agree there. But,
even watered down milk selling for $1/L (up until recently) would not be sold so cheaply if it costs the farmers $1/L to produce. Do you not understand how you undermine your own argument?Farmer A selling milk at $0.57c/L, even though it (allegedly) costs him $1/L to produce. Even if he had other sources of income (which he most likely certainly does), he would probably give up an industry that leads him to a loss, after a while.
Middleman B produces the watered down version of the milk and that gets transferred with all the costs to the supermarket where they (were) sold for $1/L. That $0.57/L milk now has a value of perhaps $0.50/L. But all the costs get factored in to where the supermarkets are selling the product at $1/L.... but making $0.20/L profit at best (???) [If anyone working in supermarkets wants to divulge the profit margin of milk to clear up the misconception].
http://www.agriculture.gov.au/abares/research-topics/agricultural-commodities/ju... Quote:The 2019–20 farmgate milk price is expected to be 47.6 cents per litre, revised upwards since Agricultural commodities: March quarter 2019. This is driven by a weaker Australian dollar and strong demand in dairy commodity export markets. The 2018–19 price has also been revised higher to 47.5 cents per litre.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2013-04-22/milk-wars/4639078 Quote:Deregulation of the industry
Prior to 2000 the price for drinking milk was set by state and federal governments - since then many farmers chose to leave the industry with exit grants, others took compensation through taxpayer funded 'adjustment programs' and continued milking. The effect on the milk price was quite startling - in some cases it fell from as much as $1 per litre returned to farmers to around 15 cents per litre.
So how much out of that $1 ltr milk do you think farmers get?
They have increased costs to produce that litre but cannot say to suppliers I have to increase my farm gate price to cover it.
Yet the suppliers & Woolies get to increase their prices to cover costs.
Woolies & Coles etc. dictate what they are prepared to pay so screw suppliers who in turn do the same to the farmers.
They also get to spread their litre further by watering it down ....... as they were doing with "permeate" before they were sprung.
All your "thin/skinny low fat milks" are virtually white water that you pay extra for.
Publicans get prosecuted for watering down their beer or selling light as heavy beer .... as would servos selling 91 octane as 98 octane.
The supermarkets started charging an extra 10 cents for their cheap milk saying it was going to go to the farmer ... farmers haven't seen a cent.
The farmers need to see that 10 cent increase in their farm gate price ...... now
otherwise the supermarkets are being fraudulent in increasing the price.
And of the few dairy farmers I knew who left the industry after deregulation (thanks Victoria) none of them were compensated out ... they walked away instead of going broke.
I never ever heard of any of them getting $1 a litre for their milk.
And cream always paid a higher premium than milk but it didn't reach that height.
When state govts. controlled the prices prior to deregulation dairy farming was profitable.
I don't think you understand anything about the issue.