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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Got Milk? Reply #105 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 12:04pm freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:49am: Is "virtual duopoly" your euphemism for "not an actual duopoly"? no. next dumb question
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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #106 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:49am:

Is "virtual duopoly" your euphemism for "not an actual duopoly"?

no. next dumb question

How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

Gnads wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 11:55am:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:49am:

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Supermarkets are not doing dairy farmers any favours with cheap milk & dictating prices.

No-one is dictating prices. Prices are established by mutual agreement.

Do you disagree with anything I actually said?

You have it backwards. This is why there needs to be more education of economics in this country. Lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed, which means more is farmed, which requires farmers to be paid more - both in total and per unit. The supermarkets are doing farmers and consumers a favour here, and the money comes out of their pockets, not the farmers.

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not when the market is controlled by a virtual duopoly

Is "virtual duopoly" your euphemism for "not an actual duopoly"?

Obviously you don't read. Roll Eyes

Spit it out Gnads. Is there anything you actually disagree with? Is it just the bit about an education in economics? Do you want everyone sprouting idiocy so we can ruin the economy with policies that have the opposite effect to what was intended?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Got Milk? Reply #107 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 5:22pm freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm: How many companies sell retail milk and milk products? you need to get out of your text books and into the real world.
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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #108 - Sep 21^st, 2019 at 6:02pm

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:49am:

Is "virtual duopoly" your euphemism for "not an actual duopoly"?

no. next dumb question

How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

Gnads wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 11:55am:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:49am:

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Supermarkets are not doing dairy farmers any favours with cheap milk & dictating prices.

No-one is dictating prices. Prices are established by mutual agreement.

Do you disagree with anything I actually said?

You have it backwards. This is why there needs to be more education of economics in this country. Lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed, which means more is farmed, which requires farmers to be paid more - both in total and per unit. The supermarkets are doing farmers and consumers a favour here, and the money comes out of their pockets, not the farmers.

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not when the market is controlled by a virtual duopoly

Is "virtual duopoly" your euphemism for "not an actual duopoly"?

Obviously you don't read. Roll Eyes

Spit it out Gnads. Is there anything you actually disagree with? Is it just the bit about an education in economics? ?

Yes everything you suggest & obviously you don't read as you would see your claims are BS. Roll Eyes

Farmers don't set the price ... it is not mutually agreed ... processors tell farmers what they will pay them after being screwed for price by the supermarkets.

You are a charlatan professing knowledge of economics ... yet all you are really about is lining your pockets at someone elses expense ..... hence the companies you invest in.

All dodgy manipulating thieves.

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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #109 - Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 8:54am

John Smith wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 5:22pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm:

How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

you need to get out of your text books and into the real world.

It's not a textbook question John. Try again. How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

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Yes everything you suggest

So you disagree with my statement that lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed?

This folks is why we need to teach kids some basic economics.

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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #110 - Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:28am

freediver wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 8:54am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 5:22pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm:

How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

you need to get out of your text books and into the real world.

It's not a textbook question John. Try again. How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

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Yes everything you suggest

So you disagree with my statement that lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed?

This folks is why we need to teach kids some basic economics.

Being editorially selective again. Roll Eyes

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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #112 - Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:15pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:28am:

freediver wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 8:54am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 5:22pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm:

How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

you need to get out of your text books and into the real world.

It's not a textbook question John. Try again. How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

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Yes everything you suggest

So you disagree with my statement that lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed?

This folks is why we need to teach kids some basic economics.

Being editorially selective again. Roll Eyes

Feel free to pick something you actually disagree with, if you can stop tapdancing for long enough.

You have it backwards. This is why there needs to be more education of economics in this country. Lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed, which means more is farmed, which requires farmers to be paid more - both in total and per unit. The supermarkets are doing farmers and consumers a favour here, and the money comes out of their pockets, not the farmers.

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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #113 - Sep 24^th, 2019 at 10:38am

freediver wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:28am:

freediver wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 8:54am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 5:22pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 3:04pm:

How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

you need to get out of your text books and into the real world.

It's not a textbook question John. Try again. How many companies sell retail milk and milk products?

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Yes everything you suggest

So you disagree with my statement that lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed?

This folks is why we need to teach kids some basic economics.

Being editorially selective again. Roll Eyes

Feel free to pick something you actually disagree with, if you can stop tapdancing for long enough.

You have it backwards. This is why there needs to be more education of economics in this country. Lower retail prices for milk means more milk is consumed, which means more is farmed, which requires farmers to be paid more - both in total and per unit. The supermarkets are doing farmers and consumers a favour here, and the money comes out of their pockets, not the farmers.

Repetition as well?

I disagree with that ... it's bs.

If the farm gate price is fixed then increasing the herd & your overheads for the same price doesn't make you more money.

Properties have stock number capacities.

Your theory is buying melons for $1 & selling them for $1 ...... then buying a bigger truck full of melons to try & make more ... yet still be selling them for the same price.

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Re: Got Milk?
Reply #114 - Sep 24^th, 2019 at 6:47pm

So you think people will purchase the same quantity of an item regardless of price?

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Your theory is buying melons for $1 & selling them for $1 ...... then buying a bigger truck full of melons to try & make more ... yet still be selling them for the same price.

This is your theory on how stupid farmers are, but it really just highlights your confusion.

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