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Reply #135 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 9:48am

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 9:36am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.

Are you seriously arguing that the police will only attend if there is an existent AVO?

That intervention can only take place if there is an AVO?

Are you really that ignorant or are you just unwilling to admit you're wrong?

No. I'm saying that she told the police that the children were not at risk of violence from him. The police don't have a crystal ball.

No she didn't. She did nothing of the sort.

You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

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Reply #136 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 2:38pm

I do not know how long this had been going on but a women went to two dept in two different States Vic and the ACT.. [I know ACt isnt a State]...does removing the vro. seriously excuse anything at all she went through?

no it doesnt... she would have been desperate and grabbing at any straw on offer.. and I guess deep down she didnt really want to believe he would kill his own son......

there is something terribly wrong with some men in this world that seem to enjoy torturing and then killing a small helpless child..... we hear about it over and over again.....Rosie Battys case was bad enough where he came out of the blue and killed his son Luke in front of his friends with his own cricket bat... at least the father had mental issues.....unlike this coward....

I think fd is grabbing at straws..

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47322 At my desk.	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #137 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 2:52pm That's what removing a VRO means Mothra. She helped to conceal the risk of violence to her children from the authorities, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks". She helped cover up a blackmail and removed a VRO from someone she knew to be violent.
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Reply #138 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:10pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:

That's what removing a VRO means Mothra. She helped to conceal the risk of violence to her children from the authorities, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks". She helped cover up a blackmail and removed a VRO from someone she knew to be violent.

Caller: It's an emergency! Somebody is trying to kill me!

Dispatch!: Do you have an AVO on your assailant?

Caller: What the? No. Look, they're going to kill me!

Dispatch: So there is no violence restraining order in place?

Caller: No! Can you please send help!

Dispatch: No, i'm sorry. You simply don't meet our requirements. Goodbye.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47322 At my desk.	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #139 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:14pm Did she report the murder in process?
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Reply #140 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:18pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Did she report the murder in process?

What point would there be>? According to you and Rhino, they wouldn't have shown up anyway.

See how stupid your argument is?

But anyway, she had made several reports to different child protection agencies, FD.

They have since admitted their fault and apologised. Yoou asnd Rhino on the other hand .....

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47322 At my desk.	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #141 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying: She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34499 Gender:	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #142 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm: That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying: She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks". Speaking of hysterical lying.
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Reply #143 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:27pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 9:36am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

My bad. He could have also gotten struck by lightning. But it was her best chance, and removing it neutered any other complaint she might have made.

Are you seriously arguing that the police will only attend if there is an existent AVO?

That intervention can only take place if there is an AVO?

Are you really that ignorant or are you just unwilling to admit you're wrong?

I didn't think he said that at all... just that retaining it was her best chance.. of what I'm not sure, since the 'father' had custody - you seriously need to ask why that would be given the obvious deficiencies of both 'parents'...

The best chance for the kid was to be removed from both... raising the spectre of another 'stolen generation'... governments are staffed by wimps these days and are so afraid of any bad press that they'll bend over backwards to avoid any appearance of overbearing behaviour in any way.

Such is the impasse to which 'social science' has brought us all.... damned if you do and damned if you don't .... but don't take away any personal sovereignty from abusers, female and male...

Again - you have to ask seriously why the kid was not in the custody of his 'mother' - the ovum donor - in the current climate of absolute power to the ovum donor...

Sounds pretty bad to me....

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Reply #144 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:30pm

Whole system is out of whack given the insanity of permitting complaints and convictions on claimed feelings .....sometimes the cops show up loaded for bear and start in with the fists immediately - other times they wimp off .... so there is no reliable way to ascertain who is and who isn't a 'baddie' these days... and many innocents are 'turned over' to protect cops from their own over-reaction to a simple situation...

That's what happens when you break down the rule of Law ... such as it ever was in this country.....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Australian SHAME. Reply #145 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:55pm freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 2:52pm: That's what removing a VRO means Mothra. and here i was thinking your stupidity was limited to 'muslims'.
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Reply #146 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

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Reply #147 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:10pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

"Blackmail". Lol.

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Reply #148 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:13pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

"Blackmail". Lol.

What do you think the authorities would think of a man taking a woman's children from her and demanding she removing a VRO or she'll never see them again?

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Reply #149 - Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:14pm

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

That's not what we said Mothra. Hysterical lying is not a rational argument. This is what I am actually saying:

She lied to the authorities about the risk of violence and covered up his blackmail, then complained that they "slipped through the cracks".

Speaking of hysterical lying.

Did she report the blackmail?

"Blackmail". Lol.

What do you think the authorities would think of a man taking a woman's children from her and demanding she removing a VRO or she'll never see them again?

No more than a woman telling a man that if he didn't agree to the settlement he would never see his kids again

then they'd probably tell em it happens all the time. Roll Eyes

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