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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #555 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 4:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

Spanish killed over 30 million Native Americans.

And that's a rubbish stat because nobody knew the population count for these various people. And nobody knows how many of these died of disease. It's a bigger guess than all of the others. Including the holocaust.

Immaterial, Hammer. What is known is the numbers which roughly died from contact with Europeans. Roll Eyes

So you feel guilty and responsible when you pass on the flu then?

You mean you don't? Do you do it deliberately? Roll Eyes

To you I would. Did the Spanish Conquistadors ?

The Flu? Doubtful. Smallpox? Yes, definitely. Roll Eyes

So these people were trudging around in the jungle thousands of miles from home walking around in contact small pox and risking getting it themselves.

There are other ways of infecting people with Smallpox, Hammer. Read up about it. Roll Eyes

You need to read up on the Spanish in Central and South America. There's absolutely no evidence they did that.

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In April 1520, Spanish forces landed in what is now Veracruz, Mexico, unwittingly bringing along an African slave infected with smallpox. Two months later, Spanish troops entered the capital of the Aztec Empire, Tenochtitlán (shown above), and by mid-October the virus was sweeping through the city (depicted above in images from the Florentine codex, a document written by a 16th century Spanish friar), killing nearly half of the population, which scholars today estimate at 50,000 to 300,000 people. The dead included the Aztec ruler, Cuitláhuac, and many of his senior advisers. By the time Hernán Cortés and his troops began their final assault on Tenochtitlán, bodies lay scattered over the city, allowing the small Spanish force to overwhelm the shocked defenders.

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Smallpox is believed to have arrived in the Americas in 1520 on a Spanish ship sailing from Cuba, carried by an infected African slave. As soon as the party landed in Mexico, the infection began its deadly voyage through the continent. Even before the arrival of Pizarro, smallpox had already devastated the Inca Empire, killing the Emperor Huayna Capac and unleashing a bitter civil war that distracted and weakened his successor, Atahuallpa.

In the era of global conquest which followed, European colonizers were assisted around the world by the germs which they carried. A 1713 smallpox epidemic in the Cape of Good Hope decimated the South African Khoi San people, rendering them incapable of resisting the process of colonization. European germs also wreaked devastation on the aboriginal communities of Australia and New Zealand.

More victims of colonization were killed by Eurasian germs, than by either the gun or the sword, making germs the deadliest agent of conquest.

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Do you know what the word "unwittingly" means Brian?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #556 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:31pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 4:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

Spanish killed over 30 million Native Americans.

And that's a rubbish stat because nobody knew the population count for these various people. And nobody knows how many of these died of disease. It's a bigger guess than all of the others. Including the holocaust.

Immaterial, Hammer. What is known is the numbers which roughly died from contact with Europeans. Roll Eyes

So you feel guilty and responsible when you pass on the flu then?

You mean you don't? Do you do it deliberately? Roll Eyes

To you I would. Did the Spanish Conquistadors ?

The Flu? Doubtful. Smallpox? Yes, definitely. Roll Eyes

So these people were trudging around in the jungle thousands of miles from home walking around in contact small pox and risking getting it themselves.

There are other ways of infecting people with Smallpox, Hammer. Read up about it. Roll Eyes

You need to read up on the Spanish in Central and South America. There's absolutely no evidence they did that.

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In April 1520, Spanish forces landed in what is now Veracruz, Mexico, unwittingly bringing along an African slave infected with smallpox. Two months later, Spanish troops entered the capital of the Aztec Empire, Tenochtitlán (shown above), and by mid-October the virus was sweeping through the city (depicted above in images from the Florentine codex, a document written by a 16th century Spanish friar), killing nearly half of the population, which scholars today estimate at 50,000 to 300,000 people. The dead included the Aztec ruler, Cuitláhuac, and many of his senior advisers. By the time Hernán Cortés and his troops began their final assault on Tenochtitlán, bodies lay scattered over the city, allowing the small Spanish force to overwhelm the shocked defenders.

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Smallpox is believed to have arrived in the Americas in 1520 on a Spanish ship sailing from Cuba, carried by an infected African slave. As soon as the party landed in Mexico, the infection began its deadly voyage through the continent. Even before the arrival of Pizarro, smallpox had already devastated the Inca Empire, killing the Emperor Huayna Capac and unleashing a bitter civil war that distracted and weakened his successor, Atahuallpa.

In the era of global conquest which followed, European colonizers were assisted around the world by the germs which they carried. A 1713 smallpox epidemic in the Cape of Good Hope decimated the South African Khoi San people, rendering them incapable of resisting the process of colonization. European germs also wreaked devastation on the aboriginal communities of Australia and New Zealand.

More victims of colonization were killed by Eurasian germs, than by either the gun or the sword, making germs the deadliest agent of conquest.

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Do you know what the word "unwittingly" means Brian?

She IS Mrs Unwittingly (nee Witless - cousin marriage, don't ask.)

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #557 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 4:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

Spanish killed over 30 million Native Americans.

And that's a rubbish stat because nobody knew the population count for these various people. And nobody knows how many of these died of disease. It's a bigger guess than all of the others. Including the holocaust.

Immaterial, Hammer. What is known is the numbers which roughly died from contact with Europeans. Roll Eyes

So you feel guilty and responsible when you pass on the flu then?

You mean you don't? Do you do it deliberately? Roll Eyes

To you I would. Did the Spanish Conquistadors ?

The Flu? Doubtful. Smallpox? Yes, definitely. Roll Eyes

So these people were trudging around in the jungle thousands of miles from home walking around in contact small pox and risking getting it themselves.

There are other ways of infecting people with Smallpox, Hammer. Read up about it. Roll Eyes

You need to read up on the Spanish in Central and South America. There's absolutely no evidence they did that.

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In April 1520, Spanish forces landed in what is now Veracruz, Mexico, unwittingly bringing along an African slave infected with smallpox. Two months later, Spanish troops entered the capital of the Aztec Empire, Tenochtitlán (shown above), and by mid-October the virus was sweeping through the city (depicted above in images from the Florentine codex, a document written by a 16th century Spanish friar), killing nearly half of the population, which scholars today estimate at 50,000 to 300,000 people. The dead included the Aztec ruler, Cuitláhuac, and many of his senior advisers. By the time Hernán Cortés and his troops began their final assault on Tenochtitlán, bodies lay scattered over the city, allowing the small Spanish force to overwhelm the shocked defenders.

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Smallpox is believed to have arrived in the Americas in 1520 on a Spanish ship sailing from Cuba, carried by an infected African slave. As soon as the party landed in Mexico, the infection began its deadly voyage through the continent. Even before the arrival of Pizarro, smallpox had already devastated the Inca Empire, killing the Emperor Huayna Capac and unleashing a bitter civil war that distracted and weakened his successor, Atahuallpa.

In the era of global conquest which followed, European colonizers were assisted around the world by the germs which they carried. A 1713 smallpox epidemic in the Cape of Good Hope decimated the South African Khoi San people, rendering them incapable of resisting the process of colonization. European germs also wreaked devastation on the aboriginal communities of Australia and New Zealand.

More victims of colonization were killed by Eurasian germs, than by either the gun or the sword, making germs the deadliest agent of conquest.

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Do you know what the word "unwittingly" means Brian?

Do you, Hammer? There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #558 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #559 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:29pm

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

You make sure you take all the precautions when you Google it, old boy. Gloves, safety goggles, the correct attire.

We don't want to see you coming down with anything nasty, thank you very much.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #560 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:36pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:29pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

You make sure you take all the precautions when you Google it, old boy. Gloves, safety goggles, the correct attire.

We don't want to see you coming down with anything nasty, thank you very much.

Sorry, no poo to suck here, paki, move on.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #561 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:46pm

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

Go for it, Soren. It will be amusing watching you doing something destroys your own argument. I look forward to you presenting your evidence (truthfully of course). Roll Eyes

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #562 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

Go for it, Soren. It will be amusing watching you doing something destroys your own argument. I look forward to you presenting your evidence (truthfully of course). Roll Eyes

Spineless slimeball. Now I have to search for the nonexistence support YOUR baseless argument. I knew you would bite - you'd do anything to avoid honesty and truthfulness.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #563 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

Go for it, Soren. It will be amusing watching you doing something destroys your own argument. I look forward to you presenting your evidence (truthfully of course). Roll Eyes

Spineless slimeball. Now I have to search for the nonexistence support YOUR baseless argument. I knew you would bite - you'd do anything to avoid honesty and truthfulness.

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Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here?
Reply #564 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

There are numerous other quotes which prove that Christians utilised biological warfare against native peoples. Roll Eyes

Weally, Bwian?? Weally? Biological warfare, was it?? Weally?? Your hot flushes are getting out of control, Aunty Bwian.

When was the 'warfare'? Or do you want ME to Google it....?

Go for it, Soren. It will be amusing watching you doing something destroys your own argument. I look forward to you presenting your evidence (truthfully of course). Roll Eyes

Spineless slimeball. Now I have to search for the nonexistence support YOUR baseless argument. I knew you would bite - you'd do anything to avoid honesty and truthfulness.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39536	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #565 - Nov 21^st, 2019 at 8:14pm Stuttering, Soren? Really? Tsk, tsk.
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92296 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #566 - Nov 21^st, 2019 at 9:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2019 at 8:14pm: https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smil... Stuttering, Soren? Really? Tsk, tsk. Now now, Brian, the old boy can't help that. It's a disability.
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #567 - Nov 22^nd, 2019 at 4:35pm Quote: In April 1520, Spanish forces landed in what is now Veracruz, Mexico, unwittingly bringing along an African slave infected with smallpox.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #568 - Nov 22^nd, 2019 at 9:48pm Gandalf will be pleased, he can stop blaming white people now.
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92296 Gender:	Re: Has there been a more outrageous porky here? Reply #569 - Nov 22^nd, 2019 at 10:50pm freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2019 at 9:48pm: Gandalf will be pleased, he can stop blaming white people now. Well, let's all hope he does the right thing and blames Islam and the dirty Boongs. You?
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