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Thieving and pillage in qur'an:
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4:94 "Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah's Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: 'You are not a believer!' Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty."

8:1  "They question you about (windfalls taken as) spoils of war. Say: 'Booty is at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger; they belong to Us and are for Our benefit.

8:41. And know that whatever of war-booty that you may gain, verily one-fifth (1/5th) of it is assigned to Allâh, and to the Messenger,

33:27: And He caused you to inherit their lands, and their houses, and their riches, and a land which you had not trodden (before).

48:20. Allah has promised you abundant spoils that you will capture,

59:6 "What Allah gave as booty to His Messenger He has taken away from them [the Jews].


You don't get booty by peacefully staying at home and defending yourself, you have to invade and steal from the people in a land which you have never trod before.

Lying in qur'an:
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quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..."

quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..."

quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Lying is O.K. for muslims.

Rape in qur'an:
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24.33:And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.

allah is forgiving if you do rape a woman who wanted to remain chaste.

Wife beating in the qur'an:
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qur'an 4.34: Men are the maintainers of women because allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely allah is high, great.

qur’an 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them.”


Belt your wife up or just lock her in the house until she dies, it's o.k. in islam.

Child marriage in qur'an:
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65:4 4. And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature)


muhammad was a pedophile he married Aisha when she was 6 and supposedly waited until she was a whopping 9 before raping her. A wife who has not menstruated yet is a child.


Torture in qur'an:
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qur'an 5.33 The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;[/b]


Mass murder in the qur'an:
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qur'an 8.67: It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made a great slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.


A verse of convenience which condones muhammads' inhumane mass murder of people.

A reinvented moon god which reflects the inner being of muhammad the perpetrator of human rights atrocities.

When will the world wake up?



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Reply #1 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 5:00pm
 
Know ye, that the Bible promotes violence and tells Christians that they are allowed to conduct it:

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For many, the Bible (both the Hebrew Bible [aka the Old Testament for Christians] and the New Testament) is a moral touchstone and a guide to a peaceful life. Yet such a use of the Bible relies on a rather selective reading of its stories, since the Bible also contains numerous disturbingly violent tales. These violent stories are often passed over altogether or explained away as cultural remnants of the time when the stories were transmitted and written down. Yet it is worth knowing that these unseemly accounts still exist in the Bible, because some tend to treat this book as a homogeneous document that has a consistently nonviolent message. In fact, the Bible is far from a non-violent book. Here are the Top Ten most violent stories from the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament:

1. The Rape of Dinah (Genesis 34): The patriarch Jacob had twelve sons (the so-called Twelve Tribes of Israel), but only one daughter Dinah. One day, the prince Shechem laid eyes on Dinah and immediately desired her, such that he “seized her and lay with her by force.” Her father was initially outraged by this violation, but as it occurred in a patriarchal society, the men of both families planned a marriage between Shechem and Dinah, which would undo the shame that resulted from the incident. The only condition was that Shechem’s people had to agree to be circumcised. The men in his city begrudgingly obliged—no small feat for adult men. Yet two of Dinah’s brothers were not satisfied with the arrangement, and “on the third day [after the circumcision], when they were still in pain” and could not defend their property, the brothers attacked Shechem’s people, killed all the males, and took all their children, wives, and material goods. y, the men of both families planned a marriage between Shechem and Dinah, which would undo the shame that resulted from the incident. The only condition was that Shechem’s people had to agree to be circumcised. The men in his city begrudgingly obliged—no small feat for adult men. Yet two of Dinah’s brothers were not satisfied with the arrangement, and “on the third day [after the circumcision], when they were still in pain” and could not defend their property, the brothers attacked Shechem’s people, killed all the males, and took all their children, wives, and material goods.

2. Genocide in Joshua (Joshua 1-12): The Israelite tribes were liberated from Egypt and understood the land of Canaan to have been promised to them—despite that the fact that there were numerous other tribes living there. Therefore, the book of Joshua recounts a systematic, though highly idealized, slaughter of the people who were in the Promised Land before the Israelites got there. Genocide is, of course, a modern category; ancient people would have just assumed that their people and their gods were better than foreign people and gods and would have quickly engaged in such violence in defense of their kin. Archaeological evidence, however, suggests that the Israelites’ movement in the land was far more gradual, and that instead of exterminating all foreign people, they probably intermarried and adopted some of the cultural habits of the native people.

3. The Dismembered Concubine (Judges 19): A Levine and his concubine were traveling and stayed overnight at Gibeah. In a scene intentionally reminiscent of Lot’s treatment in Sodom, the townspeople gathered around the home he was staying in, wanting to rape him. The householder with whom he was staying tried to protect him and offered his virgin daughter and the Levite’s concubine to them instead. The Levite consented to offer his concubine, and as the story goes, the people “raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go.” She collapsed on the threshold of the door. When the Levite found her, he put her on his donkey and went home. At home, he cut her body into 12 pieces and sent a piece to each tribe of Israel.

4. The Murder of John the Baptist (Mark 6): John the Baptist is mentioned in all four canonical gospels, but his death is only described in the Gospel of Mark. Herod Antipas (the son of Herod the Great) arrested John the Baptist, because John seemed to have publicly criticized Herod Antipas’s marriage to his brother Philip’s wife. Herod Antipas, however, didn’t want to kill him, but his wife Herodias did—probably due to the damage he had done to her reputation. Herodias spurred her daughter (also called Herodias) to request “the head of John the Baptist” when Herod Antipas wanted to reward her for dancing at his banquet and pleasing his guests. Distraught but bound by honor, he ordered John to be beheaded and his head brought in on a plate.

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Reply #2 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 5:01pm
 
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5. The Kil5. The Killing of Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5): Acts of the Apostles tells an idealized version of what the early church was like in Jerusalem immediately after Jesus’s ascension. Accordingly to the first few chapters, all believers pooled their financial resources into a common fund to be administered to the group by the apostles. Ananias and Sapphira liquidated their property but only donated part of the proceeds to the group. They both lied about it in front of Peter, and collapsed and died as punishment.

6. Wilderness Slaughter (Exodus 32): After the Israelites escaped from Egypt, they wandered in the desert for forty years. Frustrated with their predicament, the Israelites built a golden idol in the absence of any other sign that Yahweh was still on their side. To punish them, Moses commanded the Levites to take their swords and ambush the people, “each of you kill your brother, your friend, and your neighbor.”

7. The Parable of the Unfaithful Slave (Luke 12): Jesus tells parables in all of the canonical gospels; many scholars think that the parables stand the best chance of preserving the original ideas of the historical Jesus. Yet many of the stories in the parables contain a dark side. In this case, the parable tells of a master who leaves his slaves in charge of his estate while he is away. The bad slave takes advantage of his master’s absence, drinks too much, and beats other slaves. The master comes home unexpectedly and punishes the slave by “cutting him into pieces.” The moral of the story in Luke seems to simply be to remain vigilant for the return of Jesus. Even so, it is hard to ignore how the story disturbingly paints God as a slave holder who punishes his slave bodies with bisection.

8. Revelation’s Bowls of Wrath (Revelation 16): Revelation narrates a vision of the end times to one John of Patmos. The entire book is violent, so here is just a representative example. In chapter 16, angels pour out a series of bowls of God’s wrath onto the earth and its people. The second angel pours wrath into the sea, turning it into the blood of a corpse and killing everything that lives in it. The fourth angel pours wrath on the sun, which then scorches all living people who do it repent. Even if these visions are “just” symbolic, they are dark indeed. ling of Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5): Acts of the Apostles tells an idealized version of what the early church was like in Jerusalem immediately after Jesus’s ascension. Accordingly to the first few chapters, all believers pooled their financial resources into a common fund to be administered to the group by the apostles. Ananias and Sapphira liquidated their property but only donated part of the proceeds to the group. They both lied about it in front of Peter, and collapsed and died as punishment.

9. Jephthah’s Human Sacrifice (Judges 11): Jephthah was one of the biblical judges (a kind of tribal, military leader before the emergence of kings). While away at war, Jephthah vowed to God that if he was successful in battle against the Ammonites, he would sacrifice to God the first thing that came out of his home when he returned. Tragically, it was his only daughter. Jephthah honored his vow to God and killed her, after giving her a period of two months to mourn her virginity.

10. Sexual Violence Against Jacob’s Wives’ Slaves (Genesis 30): Many people overlook the domestic dynamics in the book of Genesis. In this case, Jacob had two wives (though he only wanted one—the other was foisted upon him through trickery). Each of these wives had what is typically described as a “maidservant.” In reality, “female slave” is a better translation. Female slaves were not simply the property of their owners; they were also sexually available to them. It is for this reason that we see Rachel and Leah offer their female slaves as surrogate bodies to Jacob in their competition to produce the most offspring for him. Crucially, the notion of consent is absent from this story. The female slaves had no autonomy over their bodies or sexual activities, and therefore, their use in this story as child-bearing vessels can be seen as a kind of sexual violence.

But wait, there’s more. Unfortunately the Bible’s violence can’t be limited to a top-ten list, so here are a few runners up and honorable mentions.

1. Cain Kills Abel (Genesis 4): Many treat this as the first “murder.” The story is brief and ethically ambiguous. Read it for yourself and see if you can figure out what Cain did (if anything) to displease God before killing Abel.

2. Jesus Crucified (Mark 16 and parallels): Many no doubt expected this event to feature more prominently on the list. But in the Roman Empire, crucifixion was extremely common, especially if one’s actions incited disorder and threatened the hegemony of the Romans. There’s every reason to think that if the gospels stories have any truth behind them, Jesus and his followers would have been seen as a threat to the Romans, if only because they stirred up the populace in the already politically tense city of Jerusalem.

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3. Judas’ Deaths (Matthew 27; Acts 1): There are two different versions of Judas’s death, both gruesome. In Matthew’s version, he hangs himself, while in Acts, he collapses in a field and his bowels rupture.

4. Drowning Pharaoh’s Army (Exodus 14): In this well known story, God helps the Israelites escape Egyptian slavery by drowning the Pharaoh’s army in the Red Sea. As careful readers observe, God had systematically hardened Pharaoh’s heart during the violent plagues leading up to this and during the pursuit in the wilderness, so Pharaoh seemed to have little control over his own actions.

5. Paul Wishes Castration on his Opponents (Galatians 5): In this letter, Paul is exasperated with the Galatians for listening to other teachers who oppose his ideas. This exasperation peaks in chapter 5, who he writes that he wishes his opponents would castrate themselves. Modern translations usually gloss over this coarse phrasing.

As one can see from these examples, using the Bible as a moral touchstone is a dangerous enterprise. Doing so requires that one comes to terms with these and other instances of cruelty and violence. The history of biblical interpretation is full of various strategies for dealing with these uncomfortable incidents, and will likely continue to be for some time, as people make this book meaningful in times anew.

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Now if that was allowed the Qu'ran as well by non-believers, my what a change could be accomplished, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 5:31pm
 
Continued on from post one:

The difference between islam and Christianity.

The qur'an is a book which teaches muslims that lying thieving rape torture and mass murder are all justified for muslims to practice against the unbeliever.

muslims who commit human rights atrocities against unbelievers are obeying the teachings of muhammad to the very letter.

Conversely.

Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ, a man who is acknowledged as teaching only peace and love of all mankind.

Any person who commits atrocities is directly disobeying the teachings of Jesus.

islam is shackled to the thoughts and deeds of one single man muhammad who committed human rights atrocities.

Christianity is based on a sinless blameless man who is perceived as not committing any wrong what so ever.

The two beliefs are the antithesis of each other.
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Reply #5 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 8:19pm
 
Continued on from post three:

The difference between islam and Christianity.

The Bible is a book which teaches Christians that lying thieving rape torture and mass murder are all justified for Christians to practice against the unbeliever.

Christians who commit human rights atrocities against unbelievers are obeying the teachings of Christianity to the very letter.

Conversely.

Islam is based on the teachings of Mohammad, a man who is acknowledged as teaching only peace and love for all mankind.

Any person who commits atrocities is directly disobeying the teachings of Mohammed.

Islam is set free by the thoughts and deeds of one single man - Mohammed who was pious and righteous in his understanding of humanity.

Christianity is based on a sins  committed by man who is forever committing wrong against his fellow man.

The two beliefs are the antithesis of each other.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 8:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 29th, 2019 at 8:19pm:
Continued on from post three:

The difference between islam and Christianity.

The Bible is a book which teaches Christians that lying thieving rape torture and mass murder are all justified for Christians to practice against the unbeliever.

Christians who commit human rights atrocities against unbelievers are obeying the teachings of Christianity to the very letter.

Conversely.

Islam is based on the teachings of Mohammad, a man who is acknowledged as teaching only peace and love for all mankind.

Any person who commits atrocities is directly disobeying the teachings of Mohammed.

Islam is set free by the thoughts and deeds of one single man - Mohammed who was pious and righteous in his understanding of humanity.

Christianity is based on a sins  committed by man who is forever committing wrong against his fellow man.

The two beliefs are the antithesis of each other.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You are demonstrating, repeatedly, tediously, that you are incapable of an original thought, Bwian. Like that other Turd of Perth, all you can do is alter other people's ideas and then float, like a self-satisfied toad, in the tepid affluent of your self-deception.


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Reply #7 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 8:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 29th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 29th, 2019 at 8:19pm:
Continued on from post three:

The difference between islam and Christianity.

The Bible is a book which teaches Christians that lying thieving rape torture and mass murder are all justified for Christians to practice against the unbeliever.

Christians who commit human rights atrocities against unbelievers are obeying the teachings of Christianity to the very letter.

Conversely.

Islam is based on the teachings of Mohammad, a man who is acknowledged as teaching only peace and love for all mankind.

Any person who commits atrocities is directly disobeying the teachings of Mohammed.

Islam is set free by the thoughts and deeds of one single man - Mohammed who was pious and righteous in his understanding of humanity.

Christianity is based on a sins  committed by man who is forever committing wrong against his fellow man.

The two beliefs are the antithesis of each other.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are demonstrating, repeatedly, tediously, that you are incapable of an original thought, Bwian. Like that other Turd of Perth, all you can do is alter other people's ideas and then float, like a self-satisfied toad, in the tepid affluent of your self-deception.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another play session in your favour mud pool it seems, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, such a waste of time and effort.  You do appear to enjoy torturing those poor electrons don't you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Aug 30th, 2019 at 3:27pm
 
muhammad the coward and liar of islam.

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[Auf bin Harith asked] “O Allah’s apostle, what makes Allah laugh with joy at his servant?"  He answered, “When he plunges into the midst of the enemy without mail.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 445, Ibn Kathir v.2 p.272)

Auf drew off the mail-coat that was on him and threw it away: then he seized his sword and fought the enemy till he was slain. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 445, Ibn Kathir v.2 p.272)


So *prophet* muhammad was asked what allah loved in a muslim, the answer was that allah loved anyone who plunged into battle without his armour.

Auf bin Harith took off his mail-coat and committed suicide by going into battle with no protective covering.

What sort of a sick pervert was muhammad to encourage this sort of thing?

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It has been reported on the authority of Anas b. Malik that (when the enemy got the upper hand) on the day of the Battle of Uhud, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was left with only seven men from the Ansar and two men from the Quraish. When the enemy advanced towards him and overwhelmed him, he said: Whoso turns them away from us will attain Paradise or will be my Companion in Paradise.  A man from the Ansar came forward and fought (the enemy) until he was killed.  The enemy advanced and overwhelmed him again and he repeated the words: Whoso turns them away, from us will attain Paradise or will be my Companion in Paradise.  A man from the Ansar came forward and fought until he was killed.  This state continued until the seven Ansar were killed (one after the other). Sahih Muslim 19:4413)


7 gullible muslims stepped forward and gave their lives because muhammad was a lying coward who stood by and let his men die for him.

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the next time the prophet of Islam went into battle (at Uhud) he was sure to put on two coats of armor beforehand (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 560).


O.K. proof positive that muhammad was lying human filth, first he tell muslims that allah loves muslims who commit suicide in battle by wearing no protection.

The became so frightened for his own safety, that he put on two coats of armour.

So who does allah actually love?

muslims who commit suicide in battle or cowardly pigs like muhammad.
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Thighing of Female Children in Islam

By Dr. Thomas Ahmed

There is an evil practice among the Muslims called “Mufakhazat Alzigaar,” loosely translated as the thighing of children.

According to an official Fatwa issued in Saudi Arabia, the prophet Muhammad began to practice thighing his child-bride, Aisha when she was six years old until she reached nine years of age (Fatwa No. 31409).

Therefore, Muslim scholars collectively agree, by virtue of divine example, a child becomes an adult, available for sexual intercourse as soon as she reaches the age of nine. Likewise, the Shari’a allows any of the faithful to marry a six-year-old child.

---there are many types of thighing. They are all done by an adult man to a female child. There are the evil practices of the altamatu’a bil almufakhaza (pleasure from sexual contact with her thighs), altamatu’a bil almuka’aba (pleasure from sexual contact with her breasts), altamatu’a bil alsagirah (pleasure from sexual contact with a baby girl), altamatu’a bil alradi’ah, (pleasure from sexual contact with a suckling female infant), (Reported by Baharini Women’s Rights Activist, Ghada Jamshir). These are all different styles practiced on the female child by placing the male erected penis in different parts of the child’s body for getting sexual pleasure.

This is exactly what Muhammad did to Aisha when she was yet a child of nine. Before she reached puberty, he began to have sex with her.


islam is the mirror image of the inner self of one single piece of filth, muhammad the pedophile who committed every atrocity known to mankind.

islam can never be anything different until muslims have the morals to be honest and condemn muhammad for the depraved scum he was.
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