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Reply #60 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:35am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
Who's debating that, you said first world society. By your own admission, it wasn't by 1815.


You can put together a first-world society within 27 years of inception.




Indeed, when you're getting heaps of help, funding and a military paid for by the home land.  And by 1815 Australia still wasn't first world.
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Reply #61 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 10:23am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:35am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
Who's debating that, you said first world society. By your own admission, it wasn't by 1815.


You can put together a first-world society within 27 years of inception.




Indeed, when you're getting heaps of help, funding and a military paid for by the home land.  And by 1815 Australia still wasn't first world.


If not starving and being able to produce a profitable society is not an example of a first-world society, I don't know what society in the world would be an example.
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Reply #62 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:33pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 10:23am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:35am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
Who's debating that, you said first world society. By your own admission, it wasn't by 1815.


You can put together a first-world society within 27 years of inception.




Indeed, when you're getting heaps of help, funding and a military paid for by the home land.  And by 1815 Australia still wasn't first world.


If not starving and being able to produce a profitable society is not an example of a first-world society, I don't know what society in the world would be an example.


Your definition of first world therefore is different then mine.
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Reply #63 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:33pm
 
And different from most


The concept of First World originated during the Cold War and included countries that were generally aligned with NATO and opposed to the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the definition has instead largely shifted to any country with little political risk and a well functioning democracy, rule of law, capitalist economy, economic stability, and high standard of living. Various ways in which modern First World countries are often determined include GDP, GNP, literacy rates, life expectancy, and the Human Development Index.[1] In common usage, as per Merriam-Webster, "first world" now typically refers to "the highly developed industrialized nations often considered the westernized countries of the world".[2]
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Reply #64 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:41pm:
If your answer is yes, then provide the reference.  Otherwise, stop bullshitting.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You can't disprove something you did not see or hear. It is a valid claim. And if a brief news article about Indonesians wanting to "crush Australia" is not a start, then you are not going to be swayed by something more substantial.


No valid reference?  Equals bullshit as far as I and any other critical reader is concered, UnSub.  Run along there.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #65 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 4:27pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:41pm:
If your answer is yes, then provide the reference.  Otherwise, stop bullshitting.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You can't disprove something you did not see or hear. It is a valid claim. And if a brief news article about Indonesians wanting to "crush Australia" is not a start, then you are not going to be swayed by something more substantial.


No valid reference?  Equals bullshit as far as I and any other critical reader is concered, UnSub.  Run along there.   Roll Eyes


*mocking Brian* I want to see evidence that this allegation is not bullshit. Make sure you cite a journal article, news article, website article, etc.

Apparently, I am one up on you, Brian.
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Reply #66 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 4:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:41pm:
If your answer is yes, then provide the reference.  Otherwise, stop bullshitting.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You can't disprove something you did not see or hear. It is a valid claim. And if a brief news article about Indonesians wanting to "crush Australia" is not a start, then you are not going to be swayed by something more substantial.


No valid reference?  Equals bullshit as far as I and any other critical reader is concered, UnSub.  Run along there.   Roll Eyes


Hehehe, says the clown who thinks his anecdotes count as a reference.  Roll Eyes

What’s that about a critical reader...



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Reply #67 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 5:03pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 4:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:41pm:
If your answer is yes, then provide the reference.  Otherwise, stop bullshitting.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You can't disprove something you did not see or hear. It is a valid claim. And if a brief news article about Indonesians wanting to "crush Australia" is not a start, then you are not going to be swayed by something more substantial.


No valid reference?  Equals bullshit as far as I and any other critical reader is concered, UnSub.  Run along there.   Roll Eyes


Hehehe, says the clown who thinks his anecdotes count as a reference.  Roll Eyes

What’s that about a critical reader...


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Reply #68 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 5:04pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 4:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 9:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 10:41pm:
If your answer is yes, then provide the reference.  Otherwise, stop bullshitting.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You can't disprove something you did not see or hear. It is a valid claim. And if a brief news article about Indonesians wanting to "crush Australia" is not a start, then you are not going to be swayed by something more substantial.


No valid reference?  Equals bullshit as far as I and any other critical reader is concered, UnSub.  Run along there.   Roll Eyes


*mocking Brian* I want to see evidence that this allegation is not bullshit. Make sure you cite a journal article, news article, website article, etc.

Apparently, I am one up on you, Brian.


In what way?  Being unable to answer a question about your reference?  Indeed, I'm starting wonder what you're talking about UnSub?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #69 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 7:20pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 5:04pm:
I'm starting wonder what you're talking about   Roll Eyes

Look who's talking!! We have been wondering about you in that regard ever since you started here , Bwian.


"Australia's non-role in liberating East Timor"??

You are safely and securely remain OUTA your mind on any topic you start or contribute to, Bwian the Cockwomble. Your role is to come up with the stupid angle everyone else thinks too outlandish - let's wait for Bwian, he'll come up the stupids none of us could imagine.  And sure enough, here you are, once again, gorged full to bursting with the stupids, leaking, reeking, spouting out of you, soiling every thread you splatter onto.



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Reply #70 - Sep 13th, 2019 at 7:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 7:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 5:04pm:
I'm starting wonder what you're talking about   Roll Eyes

Look who's talking!! We have been wondering about you in that regard ever since you started here , Bwian.

"Australia's non-role in liberating East Timor"??

You are safely and securely remain OUTA your mind on any topic you start or contribute to, Bwian the Cockwomble. Your role is to come up with the stupid angle everyone else thinks too outlandish - let's wait for Bwian, he'll come up the stupids none of us could imagine.  And sure enough, here you are, once again, gorged full to bursting with the stupids, leaking, reeking, spouting out of you, soiling every thread you splatter onto.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another visit to your favourite mud pit, it seems, Soren. Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #71 - Sep 14th, 2019 at 12:16am
 
Redacting statements is the reason why people like you, Brian, think that the onus is on others to prove what they saw and heard. The problem for you, Brian, is that you will go on blissfully unaware about the validity of someone's statement. You think there needs to be hard proof for someone's claims to be right. Much like the lawyers who used the Rodney King beating video footage as inadmissible due to the blurriness. Redacting someone's statements, even symbolically, is the basis of your defence. "Tree falling in the woods" logic -- Did not see it. Did not hear it. Did not happen.
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Reply #72 - Sep 14th, 2019 at 2:41pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 12:16am:
Redacting statements is the reason why people like you, Brian, think that the onus is on others to prove what they saw and heard. The problem for you, Brian, is that you will go on blissfully unaware about the validity of someone's statement. You think there needs to be hard proof for someone's claims to be right. Much like the lawyers who used the Rodney King beating video footage as inadmissible due to the blurriness. Redacting someone's statements, even symbolically, is the basis of your defence. "Tree falling in the woods" logic -- Did not see it. Did not hear it. Did not happen.


And this has to do with Australian-East Timorese relations, how, UnSub?  It has what to do with Australian-Indonesian relations?  It's relevance to Australian Defence policies is?  Equipment?  Personnel?  Please explain...  as certain red headed politician likes to ask when asked a difficult question... Roll Eyes
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