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Reply #30 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 3:20pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 3:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 2:05pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 7:36am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 6:00am:
it is the failure of the left that leads to scenarios like this.

the left see "compassion" as a universal virtue ....always.

we have a compassion pathway in our brain and it is neccessary so we will look after helpless infants and helpless injured people and helpless old people.

ever notice how people respond to a new born baby (big eyes, purposeless slow arm and leg movements) in the same way they might respond to an injured animal with big fearful eyes and slow purposeless movements.  it is hard wired into us.
probably so when a baby is keeping us awake and screaming we feel love and dont toss it out the window.

but the lefties have a biological problem where this circuit does not get cut off once the infant becomes older.
they feel the need to show unconditional love to a child who is now capable of taking responsibility for themselves.

they want to smother, protect and remove all the bullies and pain from the childs life.they want to make the child weak and dependant.

and when the child is then "not doing well", they can see the child as a victim.

and when they observe other groups "not doing well"

criminals,
members of the apex gang
refugees trying to enter illegally
the homeless
members of certain races or religious groups
people on the dole
drug addicts

they assign these people victim status, they assume society has not loved them enough and they assume compassion and unconditional positive regard is the correct way forward.

us of the noble right, see this as a flawed strategy.
people not doing well (like this criminal) can only move up by taking "extreme ownership" of their circumstances.

the only way forward for people who are in a victim group to move forward is to take responsibility for their situation, and "move forward".


i would be harsh enough to say that this applies to the mother as well.
life is tragic.
she needs to own that.
decades of self pity and the cry baby narrative does nothing for her.

in that time she could have learnt a martial art, volunteered to teach this for free to young teenage girls and made a positive difference in the world.
instead , she is stuck in victim mode , wanting compassion.


take ownership, walk the path, take action, learn to be more courageous




I have to admire the type of intellect that realises they are full of poo, but continues to spout poo at such an enormous rate it trolls itself. My congrats, aqua.




not poo at all.

heres something more to consider.

i raised my kids to be tough,
to fall out of trees and off horses and sit in casualty and i always told them "its only pain, it goes away".
i never (and my wife never) fussed over them and displayed "neurotic" behaviours around them.

and THAT helps keep them safe.
becuase these "predator types", they are always looking for the weak kid, the kid who has been raised by a neurotic and anxious parent.

thats what they go for.

i dont have the stats but i bet the predator types seek out neurotic women who arent "assertive , confident and strong" and then prey on their kids.

if you are a hand wringing leftie
if you are prone to try to tell your kid that they are too weak and soft to confront the world , then you are setting them up to be preyed upon by these predator types.

the best thing you can do to keep the predators away from your kids is dont let them be influenced by the new wave of "weak sauce, snowflakery and the crybaby mentality" of the "compassionate soft weak crybaby left "


Shifting blame away from the predator.

Charming   Roll Eyes

Are you going to tell us that women wearing mini-skirts are asking to be raped too?



no

that sounds more like the advice from the lakeemba mosque


But you've just told us that the victims (and their parents) are to blame for attacks by predators.

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Reply #31 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 11:38pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 5:23am:
An ex-girlfriend of mine jumped in front of a truck. I was over her death 4 months later. Broken at her funeral. Crying during certain movies that reminded me of her. I had recovered by the time I had a new housemate. That would be 120 days at most.


12,000 days and counting to get over the death of a relative is an exaggeration. Obviously, someone would not seriously be suffering that much that they need 100 times as long as I would -- even when I was witness to the graphic detail of her death.



you have no idea do you?...

you know what happened to your loved one you laid her to rest you gave her dignity in death  and you have a place to go to remember her ..

this mum has none of that her child died in a most horrendous way with fear a dread in her heart, can you imagine spending every day of your life wondering what your child went through in her last moments..?

I cant even go there to be honest....to live with that to know you child died in utter fear and the last face she saw was that mans.....OMG.. it would haunt me as well.....

you could move on.. Roll Eyes I would be paralyzed   for life. 


No. I don't know what happened to her. All I know is the details. I can only imagine the disposition that my friend had in her mind before she died. And I can only imagine the distraught state of mind that the truck driver had when he realised the gravity of what happened.

But, 32 years of being depressed is such a cry for attention in anyone's language. I have seen some horrific things happen to people in my life. But, I was over the memory of the horror. I won't forget them. But, I would get passed the horror within a year of seeing something really bad.
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Re: Would you allow him free reign?
Reply #32 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 12:06am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 11:38pm:
cods wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 5:23am:
An ex-girlfriend of mine jumped in front of a truck. I was over her death 4 months later. Broken at her funeral. Crying during certain movies that reminded me of her. I had recovered by the time I had a new housemate. That would be 120 days at most.


12,000 days and counting to get over the death of a relative is an exaggeration. Obviously, someone would not seriously be suffering that much that they need 100 times as long as I would -- even when I was witness to the graphic detail of her death.



you have no idea do you?...

you know what happened to your loved one you laid her to rest you gave her dignity in death  and you have a place to go to remember her ..

this mum has none of that her child died in a most horrendous way with fear a dread in her heart, can you imagine spending every day of your life wondering what your child went through in her last moments..?

I cant even go there to be honest....to live with that to know you child died in utter fear and the last face she saw was that mans.....OMG.. it would haunt me as well.....

you could move on.. Roll Eyes I would be paralyzed   for life. 


No. I don't know what happened to her. All I know is the details. I can only imagine the disposition that my friend had in her mind before she died. And I can only imagine the distraught state of mind that the truck driver had when he realised the gravity of what happened.

But, 32 years of being depressed is such a cry for attention in anyone's language. I have seen some horrific things happen to people in my life. But, I was over the memory of the horror. I won't forget them. But, I would get passed the horror within a year of seeing something really bad.



'ex-girlfriend' - jesus, man - that says it all... she wasn't even current - let alone a child of your loins.....

You seriously have no idea.... if someone abducted, raped and murdered one of my children or grand-children, I'd hunt him/her to their grave and take the consequences...  and you know what?  the prison population would count me a hero... the day that perp got out of prison would be their last day on earth...
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Reply #33 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:28am
 
Oh, I see. They have to be family before you can love them.

I have actually prepared myself for my father's funeral/death long before he is likely to die. It counts as having to look after my mother a bit more whilst she recovers from the loss.

I am not saying that the perpetrator of the death of a child should get it easy. But, even I would be over the death of someone in my family after 30 years. A child killer getting out after 10 years would be a target. But 30 years is long enough.

*I* have no idea??? You have had a safe and secure upbringing, in comparison to me. I don't even have to know you to be able to make that presumption.
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Reply #34 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 3:26am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 5:23am:
An ex-girlfriend of mine jumped in front of a truck. I was over her death 4 months later. Broken at her funeral. Crying during certain movies that reminded me of her. I had recovered by the time I had a new housemate. That would be 120 days at most.

12,000 days and counting to get over the death of a relative is an exaggeration. Obviously, someone would not seriously be suffering that much that they need 100 times as long as I would -- even when I was witness to the graphic detail of her death.


That's because you were young and didn't have what it took to do something about it... besides smoking dope  Roll Eyes
Now is never too late to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #35 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 3:32am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 7:36am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 6:00am:
it is the failure of the left that leads to scenarios like this.

the left see "compassion" as a universal virtue ....always.

we have a compassion pathway in our brain and it is neccessary so we will look after helpless infants and helpless injured people and helpless old people.

ever notice how people respond to a new born baby (big eyes, purposeless slow arm and leg movements) in the same way they might respond to an injured animal with big fearful eyes and slow purposeless movements.  it is hard wired into us.
probably so when a baby is keeping us awake and screaming we feel love and dont toss it out the window.

but the lefties have a biological problem where this circuit does not get cut off once the infant becomes older.
they feel the need to show unconditional love to a child who is now capable of taking responsibility for themselves.

they want to smother, protect and remove all the bullies and pain from the childs life.they want to make the child weak and dependant.

and when the child is then "not doing well", they can see the child as a victim.

and when they observe other groups "not doing well"

criminals,
members of the apex gang
refugees trying to enter illegally
the homeless
members of certain races or religious groups
people on the dole
drug addicts

they assign these people victim status, they assume society has not loved them enough and they assume compassion and unconditional positive regard is the correct way forward.

us of the noble right, see this as a flawed strategy.
people not doing well (like this criminal) can only move up by taking "extreme ownership" of their circumstances.

the only way forward for people who are in a victim group to move forward is to take responsibility for their situation, and "move forward".


i would be harsh enough to say that this applies to the mother as well.
life is tragic.
she needs to own that.
decades of self pity and the cry baby narrative does nothing for her.

in that time she could have learnt a martial art, volunteered to teach this for free to young teenage girls and made a positive difference in the world.
instead , she is stuck in victim mode , wanting compassion.


take ownership, walk the path, take action, learn to be more courageous




I have to admire the type of intellect that realises they are full of poo, but continues to spout poo at such an enormous rate it trolls itself. My congrats, aqua.


Yes. Your 3 lines of turding achieved what exactly?  Huh
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #36 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 3:41am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 11:38pm:
cods wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 5:23am:
An ex-girlfriend of mine jumped in front of a truck. I was over her death 4 months later. Broken at her funeral. Crying during certain movies that reminded me of her. I had recovered by the time I had a new housemate. That would be 120 days at most.


12,000 days and counting to get over the death of a relative is an exaggeration. Obviously, someone would not seriously be suffering that much that they need 100 times as long as I would -- even when I was witness to the graphic detail of her death.



you have no idea do you?...

you know what happened to your loved one you laid her to rest you gave her dignity in death  and you have a place to go to remember her ..

this mum has none of that her child died in a most horrendous way with fear a dread in her heart, can you imagine spending every day of your life wondering what your child went through in her last moments..?

I cant even go there to be honest....to live with that to know you child died in utter fear and the last face she saw was that mans.....OMG.. it would haunt me as well.....

you could move on.. Roll Eyes I would be paralyzed   for life. 


No. I don't know what happened to her. All I know is the details. I can only imagine the disposition that my friend had in her mind before she died. And I can only imagine the distraught state of mind that the truck driver had when he realised the gravity of what happened.

But, 32 years of being depressed is such a cry for attention in anyone's language. I have seen some horrific things happen to people in my life. But, I was over the memory of the horror. I won't forget them. But, I would get passed the horror within a year of seeing something really bad.


That's right - they are doing it for attention. They are doing their best to show that the murderer has taken someone from them in such an evil way (
*after raping her completely and belting her, he put the knife up her little...
).
They are 'warning' people that this man should not be released.
They are living with what is broken in them and can never be mended again. Even when a Murderer confesses and gets a life sentence - the people who have lost a loved one to evil never completely stop grieving.

I lived with a guy who was one of the Bouncers who gave the Anita Coby murderers a fair roughing up at the Emerton Hotel a week before they raped, abused and finally murdered her. The regret of him and his fellow bouncers of not 'finishing the job' was apparent in him. Those Murderers would not dare seeking to be released for the moment any one of them comes 'outside' - they're as good as dead.

Don't worry. You wouldn't understand. You loved your Pot more than you did her. It would take you years to 'get over' smoking Pot though eh? Wink
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Reply #37 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 4:44am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 12:06am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 11:38pm:
cods wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 5:23am:
An ex-girlfriend of mine jumped in front of a truck. I was over her death 4 months later. Broken at her funeral. Crying during certain movies that reminded me of her. I had recovered by the time I had a new housemate. That would be 120 days at most.


12,000 days and counting to get over the death of a relative is an exaggeration. Obviously, someone would not seriously be suffering that much that they need 100 times as long as I would -- even when I was witness to the graphic detail of her death.



you have no idea do you?...

you know what happened to your loved one you laid her to rest you gave her dignity in death  and you have a place to go to remember her ..

this mum has none of that her child died in a most horrendous way with fear a dread in her heart, can you imagine spending every day of your life wondering what your child went through in her last moments..?

I cant even go there to be honest....to live with that to know you child died in utter fear and the last face she saw was that mans.....OMG.. it would haunt me as well.....

you could move on.. Roll Eyes I would be paralyzed   for life. 


No. I don't know what happened to her. All I know is the details. I can only imagine the disposition that my friend had in her mind before she died. And I can only imagine the distraught state of mind that the truck driver had when he realised the gravity of what happened.

But, 32 years of being depressed is such a cry for attention in anyone's language. I have seen some horrific things happen to people in my life. But, I was over the memory of the horror. I won't forget them. But, I would get passed the horror within a year of seeing something really bad.



'ex-girlfriend' - jesus, man - that says it all... she wasn't even current - let alone a child of your loins.....

You seriously have no idea.... if someone abducted, raped and murdered one of my children or grand-children, I'd hunt him/her to their grave and take the consequences...  and you know what?  the prison population would count me a hero... the day that perp got out of prison would be their last day on earth...



Exactly what I would do.....cept I would make their death one they'll never forget.
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Reply #38 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 5:02am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:28am:
Oh, I see. They have to be family before you can love them.

I have actually prepared myself for my father's funeral/death long before he is likely to die. It counts as having to look after my mother a bit more whilst she recovers from the loss.

I am not saying that the perpetrator of the death of a child should get it easy. But, even I would be over the death of someone in my family after 30 years. A child killer getting out after 10 years would be a target. But 30 years is long enough.

*I* have no idea??? You have had a safe and secure upbringing, in comparison to me. I don't even have to know you to be able to make that presumption.




Look bud....I'm not trying to provoke an argument but I have just one question.
Do you have children?


As far as upbringing goes....mine was extremely shyte as well.
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Reply #39 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 7:14pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 5:02am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:28am:
Oh, I see. They have to be family before you can love them.

I have actually prepared myself for my father's funeral/death long before he is likely to die. It counts as having to look after my mother a bit more whilst she recovers from the loss.

I am not saying that the perpetrator of the death of a child should get it easy. But, even I would be over the death of someone in my family after 30 years. A child killer getting out after 10 years would be a target. But 30 years is long enough.

*I* have no idea??? You have had a safe and secure upbringing, in comparison to me. I don't even have to know you to be able to make that presumption.


Look bud....I'm not trying to provoke an argument but I have just one question.
Do you have children?


As far as upbringing goes....mine was extremely shyte as well.


I have several children. A couple with each woman. I probably have up to a dozen. And as far as I am concerned, you are unlikely to have been shot at, targeted for murder, subjected to identity theft, and then charged for things that your fraudster committed. Have you been poisoned? Maybe subjected to religious persecution by some 1%-er? Sexually harassed? Defamed? Had a bowie knife held to your throat?

This is not a matter of an upbringing consisting of 3 meals a day, not being able to afford new clothing, struggling for things to do entertainment-wise, and having to look after yourself after school whilst the parents are away at work for that extra hour. And I would empathise with someone who has an alcoholic parent.

But, if one of my daughters got caught up with the sporadic abuse and violence that I suffered in my childhood, teens and adulthood, I would take the law in my own hands, too. I was abused by a friend of my mother's at a young age. Had it ended back then after some time, I would be over it today (coincidentally 32 years later). But the fact that the old lady tried to solicit violence against me when I got into my adulthood, she would probably be suffering something else today, other than the cancer that killed her years ago. I even have politicians and members of the police force considering giving me a pass for any retaliation that I make against her goons.
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Reply #40 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 8:32pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 5:02am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:28am:
Oh, I see. They have to be family before you can love them.

I have actually prepared myself for my father's funeral/death long before he is likely to die. It counts as having to look after my mother a bit more whilst she recovers from the loss.

I am not saying that the perpetrator of the death of a child should get it easy. But, even I would be over the death of someone in my family after 30 years. A child killer getting out after 10 years would be a target. But 30 years is long enough.

*I* have no idea??? You have had a safe and secure upbringing, in comparison to me. I don't even have to know you to be able to make that presumption.


Look bud....I'm not trying to provoke an argument but I have just one question.
Do you have children?


As far as upbringing goes....mine was extremely shyte as well.


I have several children. A couple with each woman. I probably have up to a dozen. And as far as I am concerned, you are unlikely to have been shot at, targeted for murder, subjected to identity theft, and then charged for things that your fraudster committed. Have you been poisoned? Maybe subjected to religious persecution by some 1%-er? Sexually harassed? Defamed? Had a bowie knife held to your throat?

This is not a matter of an upbringing consisting of 3 meals a day, not being able to afford new clothing, struggling for things to do entertainment-wise, and having to look after yourself after school whilst the parents are away at work for that extra hour. And I would empathise with someone who has an alcoholic parent.

But, if one of my daughters got caught up with the sporadic abuse and violence that I suffered in my childhood, teens and adulthood, I would take the law in my own hands, too. I was abused by a friend of my mother's at a young age. Had it ended back then after some time, I would be over it today (coincidentally 32 years later). But the fact that the old lady tried to solicit violence against me when I got into my adulthood, she would probably be suffering something else today, other than the cancer that killed her years ago. I even have politicians and members of the police force considering giving me a pass for any retaliation that I make against her goons.





Cool...So you have kids.


I don't wish to disclose history I've worked hard to come to terms with.
Cheers.
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