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China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks
Aug 20^th, 2019 at 12:08pm

ADF wouldn't have time to finish their beers before it was over.

Would China seize Western Australia to protect its resource sources?

Bbbbuuuutttt we have these beautiful yellow (future) submarines and F35s. Unfortunately, they wouldn't be effective against hypersonic ballistic missiles.

https://www.ibtimes.com/china-can-wipe-out-us-forces-asia-if-war-breaks-out-says...

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China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Out, Says Report
By James Patterson
08/19/19 AT 2:05 AM

Australian researchers have issued a new report claiming that China’s hi-tech ballistic missiles could cripple U.S. military bases and naval forces within hours if an armed conflict erupted in the Western Pacific between the two superpowers.

The 104-page report was published by the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney where they analyzed the U.S. military strategy and spending as well as alliances in the area.

The report merits some scrutiny as even some Chinese military experts still believe that the United States is the superior power in the region as evidenced by the USS Ronald Reagan, a Nimitz-class nuclear-powered supercarrier, and it’s entourage docked in the Philippines and the powerful Seventh Fleet based in Japan

The report accurately states that China is making rapid technological advancements. China is also expected to commission its second aircraft carrier, a yet-to-be-named type 001A nuclear carrier, soon. The U.S. fleet has 11 nuclear powered carriers so the prospect of China overpassing the United States for military supremacy is remote.

The report suggested that the U.S. and its regional allies need to overhaul their military investment plans and deployment strategies to counter China’s recent aggressive behavior in the South China Sea and other Asian waters.

The lead author of the report, Ashley Townshend, told This Week in Asia about China, “As its power rises, it may well be emboldened to make a play for parts of the first island chain, including Taiwan, which would seriously constrain the security horizons for all concerned.” The statement was in reference to island chains that stretch from the Japanese archipelago to Borneo.

China parades its ballistic missiles in a parade
Military vehicles carrying DF-21D ballistic missiles roll toward Tiananmen Square during a military parade to mark the 70th anniversary of the end of WWII in Beijing on Sept. 3, 2015. Photo: Reuters/Damir Sagolj

The strongest point in the report is focused on the capabilities of China’s Rocket Force that could be deployed by the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). The PLA is armed with a vast array of missiles including:

An estimated 1,500 short-range ballistic missiles.
450 medium-range missiles
160 intermediate-range missiles
Hundreds of long-range ground-launched cruise missiles.
Some missiles described as “carrier killers,” such as the DF-21D, with a range of up to 1,500 kms.

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The American Defense, Dept of War is too dependent upon its nuclear aircraft carriers and ballistic nuclear missile armed submarines along with cruise missiles. Too spread out. And Diego Garcia is thousand of miles away from the Pacific area which China is claiming.

These are all conventional ballistic missiles able to make precision strikes on Singapore and other large American interests in South Korea and Japan. The Australian think tank report points out that China could deploy the missiles in a surprise attack in the hours before U.S. reinforcements could arrive, giving China a huge advantage at the start of any battle.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95485 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Reply #1 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 12:43pm The entire south east Asian region needs an arms control treaty. China and every other player needs to reduce their weapons every year - not increase. Useless ScoMo never mentions that.
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Reply #2 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:43pm

LTYC is part of the Media stupidity that would lead you to believe, via fear, that China & USA will go to WAR.

Besides China being 80% Ground Force in power and far weaker in the Air and at Sea than the USA. So unless the majority of its Ground Force 'swims' across the oceans... Roll Eyes

But good old JaSin will tell you that China and 'The West' will not go to war!
China & Russia will go to War.
Or as Nostrodamus put it 'Sino-v-Russo War'.

Already over a million 'Chinese' have moved into Russian Siberian lands and 'taken claim' to deserted towns and farms, as the 'Whiteys' flee back towards Europe and won't even accept 'free' Land/House to come back. As the Russian Government is failing to do, what the USSR did so well.
Most of these lands were originally 'Chinese' lands before the USSR 'took' them from China by force.

The Invasion of Russia has already begun. There are Chinese people in Russia that openly wear their Communist Military uniforms. Grin

Invading Russia is a far better alternative for China, than a 'direct' conflict with the 'West'.

If there is any conflict with the West, it will be only because North Korea brings the USA into the conflict and China reluctantly has to face another enemy on another 'Front'.

No. China will throw Russia into doom. Like Darth Vader throws his Emperor into the Abyss.
Trump knows this.

So 'fear-mongering' is what the Media does best.

Plus. I always say that if China invaded Australia - their firepower will break down within a year because like everything 'Made in China', it never lasts long.

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Reply #3 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:48pm

if China makes their weaponry to the same standard they produce everything else the war would be over in a day, they would be toast. The thing to remember of course that invasion of a foreign country requires a reach capability, the Chinese dont have this ability as yet. They would probably be able to invade parts of whichever countries have land borders with them but thats about it.

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Reply #4 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:05pm

rhino wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

if China makes their weaponry to the same standard they produce everything else the war would be over in a day, they would be toast. The thing to remember of course that invasion of a foreign country requires a reach capability, the Chinese dont have this ability as yet. They would probably be able to invade parts of whichever countries have land borders with them but thats about it.

Rhino is evidently unaware of the invention of aircraft.

China would not necessarily invade the whole of Australia. Just WA to protect their resource supplies.

If China decided to take the Pilbara, (Eastern) Australia would probably be unable to stop them.

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Reply #5 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:07pm

rhino wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

if China makes their weaponry to the same standard they produce everything else the war would be over in a day, they would be toast. The thing to remember of course that invasion of a foreign country requires a reach capability, the Chinese dont have this ability as yet. They would probably be able to invade parts of whichever countries have land borders with them but thats about it.

That's right. The Lefties (Media) have no idea and scream in fear because Trump just carries on showing no fear or concern and is confident enough to engage in 'Peaceful' solutions with China (while Putin sours in the background that China put on its best every show for Trump's visit).

When China invades 'officially'. Putin will run away and dissapear like Rasputin did.

The Moslems will toast the French like a Messiah for their sins.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20231 Gordon Gender:	Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Reply #6 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:31pm What a load of schite. If China fires a single shot at anyone, there will be a world wide embargo on China and it's economy will collapse, then it has to face the wrath of it's real enemy, it's own population.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46588 Gender:	Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Reply #7 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:34pm Especially when the Chinese Population now see 'Economics' as their best option, rather than their 'old' Military as a source of National Power and Pride.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 13879 In your happy place Gender:	Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Reply #8 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:42pm Brewery investors thank the ADF members for their 'service'.
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Reply #9 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:49pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:05pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

if China makes their weaponry to the same standard they produce everything else the war would be over in a day, they would be toast. The thing to remember of course that invasion of a foreign country requires a reach capability, the Chinese dont have this ability as yet. They would probably be able to invade parts of whichever countries have land borders with them but thats about it.

Rhino is evidently unaware of the invention of aircraft.

China would not necessarily invade the whole of Australia. Just WA to protect their resource supplies.

If China decided to take the Pilbara, (Eastern) Australia would probably be unable to stop them.

lol, this is a subject you know nothing about it seems. Exactly how would the Chinese get their troops and supply lines from China to the Pilbara without a reach capability?

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Reply #10 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:50pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:42pm: Brewery investors thank the ADF members for their 'service'. And anti psychotic drug manufacturers thank you for your service as a guinea pig.
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capitosinora Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2172 USA Florida Gender:	Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks Reply #11 - Aug 21^st, 2019 at 11:21am We have the strongest army in the world therefore China will soon become US colony. 99% people from Hong Kong and Taiwan want to join US.
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Reply #12 - Aug 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am

rhino wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 2:05pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

if China makes their weaponry to the same standard they produce everything else the war would be over in a day, they would be toast. The thing to remember of course that invasion of a foreign country requires a reach capability, the Chinese dont have this ability as yet. They would probably be able to invade parts of whichever countries have land borders with them but thats about it.

Rhino is evidently unaware of the invention of aircraft.

China would not necessarily invade the whole of Australia. Just WA to protect their resource supplies.

If China decided to take the Pilbara, (Eastern) Australia would probably be unable to stop them.

lol, this is a subject you know nothing about it seems. Exactly how would the Chinese get their troops and supply lines from China to the Pilbara without a reach capability?

The Japanese bombed Darwin with far less 'reach' capability than China currently has.

Chinese submarines could easily isolate Australia and cut off Australia's trade.

No more 'soup' for Rhino.

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Re: China Can Wipe Out US Forces In Asia If War Breaks
Reply #13 - Aug 21^st, 2019 at 12:21pm

Yeah? How will they reach those forces? Maybe a few bombs or missiles - then it's Adios, Chinchachos....

If they used a nuke or two - that's it, bro.

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.. brought to you all earlier this year by my good self - Grapplerdamus the Prophet... told ya so ..... it's like 1939 all over again.... innit?

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Reply #14 - Aug 21^st, 2019 at 12:38pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 21^st, 2019 at 12:21pm:

Yeah? How will they reach those forces? Maybe a few bombs or missiles - then it's Adios, Chinchachos....

If they used a nuke or two - that's it, bro.

(repeats for the cogniscenti)

2019

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.. brought to you all earlier this year by my good self - Grapplerdamus the Prophet... told ya so ..... it's like 1939 all over again.... innit?

Whoever lands the first strike will be devastating.

If satellites and subsea cables are taken out in a conflict between China and the USA, Russia and North Korea, and possibly even Iran, might take advantage of a surprise secret free punch without the USA being aware of the source of mystery attacks which might be falsely blamed on China.

In such a situation Australia would be isolated and friendless as 'America First' means what it says.

Loose lips and yellow submarines will be Australia's best hope.

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