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Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:06am
 
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/former-deputy-prime-minister-tim-fisc...

Former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer is gravely ill in a southern NSW hospital.

Mr Fischer, 73, has been battling acute leukaemia and cancer generally for 10 years.

He is currently being treated at the Albury Wodonga Cancer Centre

In May, when he opened a museum dedicated to his life at his birthplace of Lockhart, near Wagga Wagga, he revealed he was hoping for a remission.

“Almost in remission, not quite. I am just uplifted by this nice gallery,” he said at the time.

Mr Fischer, who first became an MP at the age of 24, was National leader from 1990 to 1999 and deputy prime minister in the Howard government from 1996 to 1999.

He quit politics in 2001.

Since retiring from public life, Mr Fischer moved with wife Judy to a cattle farm at Mudgegonga, near Yackandandah in Victoria’s northeast.

Mr Fischer, who attended Xavier College in Melbourne, was conscripted into the Australian Army and served in the Vietnam War as a platoon commander and transport officer with the 1st Battalion Royal Australian Regiment.

He was elected as a state MP in 1971 as a 24-year-old, and held various roles in NSW parliament before resigning in 1984 to contest the western NSW federal seat of Farrer.

Mr Fischer has faced a series of cancer battles in recent years, ­including bladder cancer, prostate cancer, melanoma and ­leukaemia.



so sorry to hear this  he did a great job for his country...
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Reply #1 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:33am
 

He held back Hanson's One Nation, openly criticised the NRA and America's ridiculous gun laws, and wanted to see Australia become a republic.

It's a shame he (probably) won't be around when that happens.

"Mr Fischer has faced a series of cancer battles in recent years, ­including bladder cancer, prostate cancer, melanoma and ­leukaemia."
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Poor bugger.
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Reply #3 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:09am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:33am:
He held back Hanson's One Nation, openly criticised the NRA and America's ridiculous gun laws, and wanted to see Australia become a republic.

It's a shame he (probably) won't be around when that happens.

"Mr Fischer has faced a series of cancer battles in recent years, ­including bladder cancer, prostate cancer, melanoma and ­leukaemia."
   Sad

Poor bugger.



A Decent bloke.
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Reply #4 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:23am
 
Probably the best leader the Nationals have ever had.
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Reply #5 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am
 
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.
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Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am
 
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.
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Reply #7 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:06am
 
The last true leader of the country party or any of its predecessing ramble. A genuinely good man.

I would wish him the best. Sad news that he is unwell.
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Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am
 
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad
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Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.
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Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am
 
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures but try and get Greg C.nt to talk about Cannabis oil and THC and then he goes missing in action. Sad
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Reply #11 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:00pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures. Sad


Drugs aren't the only treatment.

There's surgery too, you know.

My father's cancer is completely gone after 6 or 7 years, and he didn't take a single tablet.

Not one single drug.

Thirty years ago, surgery wouldn't have saved him.



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Reply #12 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures. Sad


Drugs aren't the only treatment.

There's surgery too, you know.

My father's cancer is completely gone after 6 or 7 years, and he didn't take a single tablet.

Not one single drug.

Thirty years ago, surgery wouldn't have saved him.





Many are not so lucky. The success rate is very very low ! 3% improvement to the 5 year survivability rate on all chemo treatments. Sad Usually surgery or biopsies spread the cancers throughout the body and secondary cancers will appear later on down the track although they always completely deny this but they can do anything they like to you and then blame the cancer when things go pair shaped as they usually do !




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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #13 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:57pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures. Sad


Drugs aren't the only treatment.

There's surgery too, you know.

My father's cancer is completely gone after 6 or 7 years, and he didn't take a single tablet.

Not one single drug.

Thirty years ago, surgery wouldn't have saved him.





Many are not so lucky.



I know.

The surgeon was the best I could find, from London, and the anesthesia team were top notch.

They cut out a cancer the size of a golf ball without any complications and with no sign of cancer anywhere else in his body seven years later.

Like I say, that wouldn't have happened 30 years ago.

He's a lucky boy.
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Reply #14 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:45pm
 
He is one of the few National Party leaders I liked.  Good bloke.
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Reply #15 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:59pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures but try and get Greg C.nt to talk about Cannabis oil and THC and then he goes missing in action. Sad



Yep this is idiocy at its finest. The comment not the cancer treratment.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #16 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures. Sad


Drugs aren't the only treatment.

There's surgery too, you know.

My father's cancer is completely gone after 6 or 7 years, and he didn't take a single tablet.

Not one single drug.

Thirty years ago, surgery wouldn't have saved him.





Many are not so lucky. The success rate is very very low ! 3% improvement to the 5 year survivability rate on all chemo treatments. Sad Usually surgery or biopsies spread the cancers throughout the body and secondary cancers will appear later on down the track although they always completely deny this but they can do anything they like to you and then blame the cancer when things go pair shaped as they usually do !







Got a reference for that?
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Reply #17 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 3:13pm
 
I don't subscribe to lastnail's crackpot conspiracy, but it is true that advancements in cancer treatment has been frustratingly minimal and slow. In some cancers, such as pancreatic cancer, survival rates simply haven't improved at all.
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polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
I don't subscribe to lastnail's crackpot conspiracy, but it is true that advancements in cancer treatment has been frustratingly minimal and slow. In some cancers, such as pancreatic cancer, survival rates simply haven't improved at all.



Maybe, but it is rocket science. Its a difficult thing and to just assume its because people want to make money is disingenuous.
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Regarding Tim - he has a reputation now as a moderate, even progressive from the conservative side. This may be justified, however I will never forget his shameless dog whistling during the mabo/native title debate - where he once produced a map of Australia with more than half of it marked for potential native title claim.
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polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 3:32pm:
Regarding Tim - he has a reputation now as a moderate, even progressive from the conservative side. This may be justified, however I will never forget his shameless dog whistling during the mabo/native title debate - where he once produced a map of Australia with more than half of it marked for potential native title claim.


Yeah.....protecting his flock.  On the other hand, he took that same flock on when he supported gun control after Pt Arthur.
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Reply #21 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 4:33pm
 
Tim was the only honest politician Australia has ever seen.

When the turd howard the coward was lying his disgusting little butt off, Tim called it a day realising that while politics accepted that little turd, Australia was screwed.

howard the coward is the most disgusting thing Australian politics has ever seen.

And Tim wanted nothing to do with him.

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I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke.
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Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 



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Reply #24 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:44pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 



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Why put schit on that Cods?  Many military people get to meet politicians at all levels.  Comes with the job.
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Reply #25 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:48pm
 
Never did anything worthwhile IMO....He should die of shame!!!

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So Tim Fisher was just another Politician of the National front that helped stuff up an Australian Rural Industry and ruin a wonderful natural Country to achieve so.

Let him rot!
He's just a dirty Squatter.
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Reply #27 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:06am
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 4:33pm:
howard the coward is the most disgusting thing Australian politics has ever seen.

And Tim wanted nothing to do with him.



wanted nothing to do with him - yet stuck with him for two whole terms??
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Reply #28 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:20am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:06am:
Valkie wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 4:33pm:
howard the coward is the most disgusting thing Australian politics has ever seen.

And Tim wanted nothing to do with him.



wanted nothing to do with him - yet stuck with him for two whole terms??

Fischer was leader of the National Party while the Libs were led by Hewson, Downer and Howard. He didn't have a lot of say over who the Libs chose.

At least he was better than his predecessor - who remembers Charles Blunt?
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Reply #29 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:25am
 
Did a good job at Coral, 1968 - get well, Tim ...

I hope that was steam engines and not what passes for trains these days...
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Reply #30 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 2:59pm
 
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Did a good job at Coral, 1968 - get well, Tim ...

I hope that was steam engines and not what passes for trains these days...


Hwas a 2nd LT 1RAR at the time a nasho   good bloke   Cry
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Reply #31 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:17pm
 
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Did a good job at Coral, 1968 - get well, Tim ...

I hope that was steam engines and not what passes for trains these days...


He liked all trains.  He boasted to me about heading the Ghan Syndicate and actually getting to drive the Ghan after the line was extended to Darwin.   Cool
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Reply #32 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:20pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 


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Did what?  Sit opposite Tim at a Mess Dinner?  Agreed with his views on John Howard?  Please, Cods, you need to be a little more specific when your criticising a post.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #33 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:20pm:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 


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Did what?  Sit opposite Tim at a Mess Dinner?  Agreed with his views on John Howard?  Please, Cods, you need to be a little more specific when your criticising a post.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
Bet you played footsies with him under the table.
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Reply #34 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 7:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:20pm:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 


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Did what?  Sit opposite Tim at a Mess Dinner?  Agreed with his views on John Howard?  Please, Cods, you need to be a little more specific when your criticising a post.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



meet him pet  meet him!

and he told you what he thought of the PM   yeah sure pet we believe you millions wouldnt. Roll Eyes

Tim looks just the type to do what you claim....

your total crap and dont care who you denigrate..

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Reply #35 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 7:09pm
 
My uncle knew him in Nam.
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Reply #36 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 12:22pm
 

Just heard that he has died.

Cry
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Reply #37 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 12:49pm
 
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Just heard that he has died.

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Confirmed.  Cry

Tim Fischer, former Nationals leader and deputy PM, dies from leukaemia, aged 73
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Reply #38 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 1:32pm
 

As deputy PM, Mr Fischer supported John Howard's gun control laws despite fierce resistance among much of the Nationals' rural base.

An eccentric man, Tim Fischer was obsessed with trains, annual treks to Australia's highest peak and the Kingdom of Bhutan.

He was described as one of parliament's "very genuinely loved" people.
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Reply #39 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:10pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:20pm:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 


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Did what?  Sit opposite Tim at a Mess Dinner?  Agreed with his views on John Howard?  Please, Cods, you need to be a little more specific when your criticising a post.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



meet him pet  meet him!

and he told you what he thought of the PM   yeah sure pet we believe you millions wouldnt. Roll Eyes

Tim looks just the type to do what you claim....

your total crap and dont care who you denigrate..



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Jealousy is such a curse, hey, Cods?

I mean, you're a boring little suburban housewife, who's a little overly fond of the old cask of Fruity Lexia on the sideboard there, aren't you?  Never met anybody famous, never did anything of note, except raise your kids.   Life must be terribly, terribly boring for you in that quiet little suburban home of yours in the wilds of Canberra...   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #40 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 4:47pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:59pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:41am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:29am:
he always came across as sincere which is a good point with me....

I had to watch a loved one die  its not easy.

things are much better today he wont suffer like my man did.. 

I wish him peace.

I fear he's in his last days.

If so, this year is a bad one for losing great leaders. Losing both Hawke and Fischer in the same year diminishes us as a nation.


They will have hastened his death with their chemo junk therapy and radio therapy ray gun treatments plus numerous butchery to cut out the cancers which just would have spread them. Same story again and again. No one including pollies are immune to the hands of oncologists and their snake oil treatments  Sad

Cancer treatments are a lot better now than they were 30 years ago.


No they are not. Same old poisons and primitive techniques used that haven't changed for decades. The truth of the matter is they haven't got a cure for cancer. They just feed off and profit from peoples desperation's and the government is quite happy to throw billions at big pharma for fake cancer cures but try and get Greg C.nt to talk about Cannabis oil and THC and then he goes missing in action. Sad



Yep this is idiocy at its finest. The comment not the cancer treratment.


It's only Nails. The forum's most ill informed idiot. Cancer survival has improved dramatically over the last several decades.


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Even better outcomes for children


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Nails, piss off you ignorant twat.
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Reply #41 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 6:29pm
 
Adios, Tim...... Agent Orange you say?  Hmm - leukemia... got a bit myself... but under control ...
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Reply #42 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 6:30pm
 
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As deputy PM, Mr Fischer supported John Howard's gun control laws despite fierce resistance among much of the Nationals' rural base.

An eccentric man, Tim Fischer was obsessed with trains, annual treks to Australia's highest peak and the Kingdom of Bhutan.

He was described as one of parliament's "very genuinely loved" people.


Did he get to climb Ayers Rock before The Kaffir Klosure?  I'm curious.....
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Reply #43 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 9:02pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 4:20pm:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyes

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 


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Did what?  Sit opposite Tim at a Mess Dinner?  Agreed with his views on John Howard?  Please, Cods, you need to be a little more specific when your criticising a post.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
Bet you played footsies with him under the table.


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Reply #44 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:18pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyesu

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 

I was once chatting to John Howard at a Bennelong electoral fundraiser. He told me what Tim Fisher said to him about you.

We laughed until we cried.
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Reply #45 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:55pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyesu

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 

I was once chatting to John Howard at a Bennelong electoral fundraiser. He told me what Tim Fisher said to him about you.

We laughed until we cried. 



Tim Fisher was a gentleman no way would he have discussed john Howard the man he was Deputy too to a complete stranger.....no way!!!! he was one decent guy everyone has said the same thing

and here we have our local hero  he who has every degree under the sun.... besmirching that good mans name.., how bloody dare he..


you are a lying disgrace brian... hang your head in shame..
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Reply #46 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 1:32pm:
As deputy PM, Mr Fischer supported John Howard's gun control laws despite fierce resistance among much of the Nationals' rural base.

An eccentric man, Tim Fischer was obsessed with trains, annual treks to Australia's highest peak and the Kingdom of Bhutan.

He was described as one of parliament's "very genuinely loved" people.



he was aussie through and through....he gave up his political career for his son who was/is autistic...

a thorough gentleman..in my book...
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Reply #47 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 11:22pm
 
that was very commendable cods- well done to him
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Reply #48 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 12:23am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 3:13pm:
I don't subscribe to lastnail's crackpot conspiracy, but it is true that advancements in cancer treatment has been frustratingly minimal and slow. In some cancers, such as pancreatic cancer, survival rates simply haven't improved at all.

It isn't really true though. On average, cancer survival is well up over time. Naturally more to be done. There have been some stunning outcomes as well. Look at Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia, the most common paediatric cancer. 40 years ago the survival rate was about zero. Today, over 90%. I might add, thanks to the wonder drug G-CSF discovered right here in Aussie. Women's breast cancer, bowel cancer, prostate cancer have much improved survival rates today.

Soft tissue cancers in the pancreas, liver, gastro etc have the problem that symptoms only become apparent when the tumour has gone beyond the stage of being a candidate for a full resection. Caught early, these cancers have as good an outcome as any other. The problem is in the detection rather than the treatment. Unfortunately, the patient often presents when the cancer has already spread.

By the way, Vale Tim Fischer.

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Reply #49 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 12:38am
 
yeah Croc you are right. They are slowly finding effective treatments for cancer, the trick is in early diagnosis.
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Around 25,000 more people die each year from cancer compared to 1982. This is due mainly to population growth and ageing. 1
However, the death rate (number of deaths per 100,000 people) has fallen by more than 24%.
In the 1980s, the cancer survival rate was less than 50%. Today, almost 7 in 10 Australians will survive for at least 5 years after a cancer diagnosis and in some cancers the survival is as high as 90%.1
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Reply #50 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:14am
 
rhino wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 12:38am:
yeah Croc you are right. They are slowly finding effective treatments for cancer, the trick is in early diagnosis.
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Around 25,000 more people die each year from cancer compared to 1982. This is due mainly to population growth and ageing. 1
However, the death rate (number of deaths per 100,000 people) has fallen by more than 24%.
In the 1980s, the cancer survival rate was less than 50%. Today, almost 7 in 10 Australians will survive for at least 5 years after a cancer diagnosis and in some cancers the survival is as high as 90%.1
https://www.cancer.org.au/about-cancer/what-is-cancer/facts-and-figures.html


They are treatments and not cures which is why they have very poor success rates, and is the reason why they keep holding out their hands for more donations to come up with more treatments and then ripoff off the PBS system with their snake oil Sad
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One of the few politicians who actually represented and gave a crap, about the people.
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One of the few politicians who actually represented and gave a crap, about the people.

Indeed. We've lost our two best former leaders 14 weeks apart - him and Hawke. None of our current crop of leaders could compare with them.
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Reply #54 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:01pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:55pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyesu

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 

I was once chatting to John Howard at a Bennelong electoral fundraiser. He told me what Tim Fisher said to him about you.

We laughed until we cried. 


Tim Fisher was a gentleman no way would he have discussed john Howard the man he was Deputy too to a complete stranger.....no way!!!! he was one decent guy everyone has said the same thing

and here we have our local hero  he who has every degree under the sun.... besmirching that good mans name.., how bloody dare he..

you are a lying disgrace brian... hang your head in shame..


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Believe what you desire, Cods.  However, we all know you are the liar here.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyesu

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 

I was once chatting to John Howard at a Bennelong electoral fundraiser. He told me what Tim Fisher said to him about you.

We laughed until we cried. 


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Reply #56 - Aug 24th, 2019 at 12:14am
 
I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about the man. Not that I want people to start on a remembrance thread.
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Nice guy. He overcame a stutter.
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Frank wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyesu

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 

I was once chatting to John Howard at a Bennelong electoral fundraiser. He told me what Tim Fisher said to him about you.

We laughed until we cried. 


Brian has a toupe? A penile transplant? A colostomy bag?

Oh, old boy, that's rich, even for you.
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Reply #59 - Aug 24th, 2019 at 11:49am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 24th, 2019 at 1:13am:
Frank wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
I once sat opposite Tim Fischer at a Mess Dinner at Duntroon.  He was a very intelligent, witty man who asked my opinion of John Howard and agreed with me that it was time that Howard went (this was in early 2007) and he had "stayed too long" as PM.  He didn't like John Howard overly much but managed to work with him for what, seven-eight years?   He felt he was too ideologically driven and just wanted that one last victory, over the union movement and it was never going to come.   He was right.  It was Howard's undoing, he was ousted as PM and as an MP - one of only two sitting PM's to ever lose their own seat and both over the same thing - Work Place Relations.   Roll Eyesu

We both shared similar interests - trains and Military History.  He was a good bloke. 

I was once chatting to John Howard at a Bennelong electoral fundraiser. He told me what Tim Fisher said to him about you.

We laughed until we cried. 


Brian has a toupe? A penile transplant? A colostomy bag?

Oh, old boy, that's rich, even for you.


Nah - a disabled son..... tough gig ....
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Reply #60 - Aug 24th, 2019 at 3:13pm
 
Please spell his name correctly. Fischer, not Fisher. He had German ancestry.
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Reply #61 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 9:32am
 
Tim Fischer farewelled as coffin takes one last train ride on way to funeral

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About 80 people have lined the rail station at The Rock in the New South Wales Riverina to say one last goodbye to former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer.

The former Nationals leader, who died last week aged 73, will receive a fitting farewell as his coffin is taken by heritage train past his home town of Boree Creek to Albury, where a state funeral will be held this afternoon.

The rail journey completes a trip Mr Fischer was unable to finish as his health deteriorated rapidly in recent weeks.

The Lachlan Valley Railway (LVR) arranged this one last train ride for Mr Fischer.

Director of LVR Ross Jackson said it was a surprise to hear his old friend made the request for the train run, which features three CPH railmotors.

"The reason we chose these is two of the cars actually serviced the Boree Creek line as part of passenger journeys, probably when Tim was a lot younger, but certainly synonymous with country branch line travel and country towns," Mr Jackson said.

"As we pass the locations, we hope that the general public comes out and waves and celebrates the life of Tim Fischer, the man who loved country NSW, loved country Australia, he loved the railways, and he loved his family.

"The saddest part about it is when I ran the cancer charity fundraiser tour back in July with Tim, Tim actually didn't get to make the trip back home, he had to rest," Mr Jackson said.

"So now we have the opportunity to finish that journey with him."

Lockhart Shire Mayor Rodger Schirmer will travel to Albury today for the State Funeral.

He said Mr Fischer always had the community's best interests in mind, never self-interest.

"His passing has created a tsunami if you like of not so much grief, but a huge wave of sadness over the community," he said.

Councillor Schirmer said the rail tribute was the perfect way to say goodbye.

"Tim was absolutely besotted by anything to do with trains and rail," Councillor Schirmer said.

"He will probably be listening to every clickety clack of the sleepers as he passes over them."

Mr Jackson paid tribute to the team of people who made today's train trip possible.

"People were working on the railmotors up until 11:00pm Tuesday night to make sure everything is presentable, so it's not one person here, it's [everyone] who has gone absolutely all out to ensure today is perfect," Mr Jackson said.

"Mainline operators and other railways have also assisted us in getting this train going.

"I'd love to see a lot of people come out and wave to the train on the way through. That's what we're doing it for, to promote Tim's passion."

And will Mr Fischer's final run interrupt any major rail movements along the Sydney to Melbourne railway line?

Mr Jackson doubts it.

"We think we'll have a clear run," he said.

"I think we're going to move out of the way once his coffin's removed for the XPT to come through in the other direction and the train will then take off and we'll follow the XPT home."

On arrival in Albury there will be a military memorial service conducted by the Lockhart RSL sub branch, before Mr Fischer's state funeral begins at 1:00pm at the Albury Entertainment Centre.
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Reply #62 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 10:33am
 
This is well worth a listen as well, a good insight into the man!

Conversations with Richard Fidler ABC Radio

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/tim-fischer-holy-see-rpt/114...

Tim Fischer's 1000 days in the Eternal City

Tim Fischer served as Deputy Prime Minister of Australia during the Howard Government from 1996 to 1999.

He resigned from parliament in 2001 and returned to the family farm.

In 2008 Tim received a surprise call from Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, asking him to become Australia's first full-time representative to the Vatican.

Tim kept a diary to record his 1000 days in the Eternal City, and later wrote a book based on the diary.
Further information and listening

Tim Fischer 1946 - 2019

Original broadcast September 2013

Holy See, Unholy Me published by ABC Books (2013)


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Reply #63 - Aug 31st, 2019 at 5:24am
 
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Tim Fischer farewelled as coffin takes one last train ride on way to funeral

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What a great thing for LVR to do for Tim, who was a tireless advocate for rail in Australia, and
also a knowledgeable rail-fan in his own right.

I know some of those involved, and believe they should be wholeheartedly congratulated.

The specially-prepared 'Tin Hares' looked great, too.

It's a crying shame we don't have more politicians (on either side) with the gumption, passion
and dedication to actually making Australia a better place that Tim had.

I watched the ABC show about him the other night, they were talking about his illness, his
service in Vietnam, Agent Orange and the probable connection between them. Even then, and
as sick as he was, he was philosophical, not bitter or looking to cast blame.

It is well-known that I generally despise conservative politicians with a passion which is
palpable - but not Tim. This is one Socialist who considers this country to be just that much
worse for his passing.

VALE, Tim Fischer - you WILL be missed.
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Re: Tim Fisher
Reply #64 - Aug 31st, 2019 at 5:49am
 
cods wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 10:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 1:32pm:
As deputy PM, Mr Fischer supported John Howard's gun control laws despite fierce resistance among much of the Nationals' rural base.

An eccentric man, Tim Fischer was obsessed with trains, annual treks to Australia's highest peak and the Kingdom of Bhutan.

He was described as one of parliament's "very genuinely loved" people.



he was aussie through and through....he gave up his political career for his son who was/is autistic...

a thorough gentleman..in my book...


Did you see the interview with him that aired on the ABC the other night, Cods?

Tim actually said that his son's autism made him realise that, though he was never
diagnosed, he was probably on the autism spectrum as well.

He said that a lot of questions suddenly had answers, some of his eccentricities now
had explanations, and a lot of the coping mechanisms that his son used were similar
to those he'd employed himself throughout his life.

As to the last line of your comment - I'd have to agree.

A thorough gentleman - in the true sense of the word - and one of those seemingly
almost-extinct creatures, a man (and a politician) of compassion and integrity who
always had the welfare of all Aussies in his heart and mind, not just the ones who
gave the biggest brib - er, donations or had the loudest lobbyists.

He will be missed.
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