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Reply #1125 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 8:05pm
 
Aboriginal Payday here they hit the clubs and pokies..... always that way in every town I've lived... same down in the Bega Valley, except a couple of them held jobs at the RSL there.... good people, too, and so were some of the Elders trying to get the young 'uns onthe straightand narrow.  But many of the unemployed ones love to play big on them pokies.... and that ain't no porkie...
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Reply #1126 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Life expectancy at birth, by sex and Indigenous status, 2005–2007 and 2010–2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/06193597-89b5-4515-9cd9-aa27a78d8be4/6-life-exp...

Infant mortality, by Indigenous status, 1998 to 2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/75f5a952-8456-4abe-b60b-d2502543ca91/6-infant-m...

The health and welfare of Australia’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples: 2015

Forced?  Neglected more like.  Typical Racist claptrap from a Racist, hey, Graps?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #1127 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:34pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Life expectancy at birth, by sex and Indigenous status, 2005–2007 and 2010–2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/06193597-89b5-4515-9cd9-aa27a78d8be4/6-life-exp...

Infant mortality, by Indigenous status, 1998 to 2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/75f5a952-8456-4abe-b60b-d2502543ca91/6-infant-m...

The health and welfare of Australia’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples: 2015

Forced?  Neglected more like.  Typical Racist claptrap from a Racist, hey, Graps?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Abos abusing each other.



'Neglected'?  You're joking, of course?  So you want facilities and top staff to reside at every remote camp?

Your very own graph shows that their life expectancy is lower and that their infant mortality rate is higher - yet you still blame Whartey for providing the hospitals and staff etc in all towns and centres?

Got any learned treatises on exactly why these are higher for Aboriginals?  Or are you happy to just point the finger?

"they include higher rates of preterm birth and low birthweight, higher rates of maternal smoking during pregnancy, poorer pre-pregnancy maternal health, higher levels of social disadvantage, poorer access to antenatal and birthing services, and higher likelihood of living in overcrowded housing ("

WHY is there a higher rate of preterm birth?
Smoking is a choice. 
In towns etc there are Aboriginal health centres.. the local bloke who spoke at the Heart thing here said his fellows simply refused to use them...
Do the other ethnicities with levels of social disadvantage suffer from an equally high IMR?  NO - they are mainly in the cities and use readily available services - they do not choose to stomp around the Outback etc and be far from services.
WHY are they living in overcrowded housing?  Wouldn't be because they choose that way, would it?

Same with mortality rate - smoking and substance abuse, poor diet, and such are guaranteed to lower your life expectancy.

How about praising to high heaven the fact that these things are declining, rather than stating, without any basis, that they are the result of neglect - ipso facto - it could not be neglect that is causing the decline in infant mortality rates and lower life expectancy.

The services are there - they need to use them and stop complaining - and a few lifestyle changes wouldn't hurt, either.
You are doing a fine imitation of Pascoe, Brian.... selective interpretation of facts....
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Reply #1128 - Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Life expectancy at birth, by sex and Indigenous status, 2005–2007 and 2010–2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/06193597-89b5-4515-9cd9-aa27a78d8be4/6-life-exp...

Infant mortality, by Indigenous status, 1998 to 2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/75f5a952-8456-4abe-b60b-d2502543ca91/6-infant-m...

The health and welfare of Australia’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples: 2015

Forced?  Neglected more like.  Typical Racist claptrap from a Racist, hey, Graps?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Abos abusing each other.


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Reply #1129 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 10:14am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 9:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Life expectancy at birth, by sex and Indigenous status, 2005–2007 and 2010–2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/06193597-89b5-4515-9cd9-aa27a78d8be4/6-life-exp...

Infant mortality, by Indigenous status, 1998 to 2012
https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/75f5a952-8456-4abe-b60b-d2502543ca91/6-infant-m...

The health and welfare of Australia’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples: 2015

Forced?  Neglected more like.  Typical Racist claptrap from a Racist, hey, Graps?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Abos abusing each other.


Goodness me what sort of barbaric crimes you are performing on your indigenous people, this is worse than holocaust?
Now is 21st century, please stop this disgusting genocide otherwise US Government has to intervene and do something about that slaughter of innocent people.
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Reply #1130 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:24am
 
The  most horrific genocide in the world history went unpunished and continuous to the present days.
What is the purpose of that Anglo crime??? Poor people slaughtered on their own land by barbaric hordes.
Where is United nation to stop genocide?
Why US doesn't intervene to save those innocent people?

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Reply #1131 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:29am
 
THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF THE AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINES . THE HOLOCAUST AND GENOCIDE OF THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF AUSTRALIA. THE BRUTAL HARSH DICTATORSHIP OF BRITISH CRIMINALS.




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Reply #1132 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 12:32pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:24am:
The  most horrific genocide in the world history went unpunished and continuous to the present days.
What is the purpose of that Anglo crime??? Poor people slaughtered on their own land by barbaric hordes.
Where is United nation to stop genocide?
Why US doesn't intervene to save those innocent people?

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What an absolute load of sh1t - there are more Aboriginals now than there ever were.... they're nowhere near dying out, and there are more of them every damned day.. and all full of whining about some mythical past lost..

When someone mentioned Paradise Lost to them, they thought the discussion was about the casino...
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Reply #1133 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 12:34pm
 
Do you somehow imagine that posting some ancient photograph of Aboriginals chained as prisoners for some unspecified reason - probably stealing cattle etc -prove some kind of 'holocaust'?
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Reply #1134 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 12:55pm
 
Capt James Fraser with his ship the Stirling Castle (its cargo was mostly 'grog') shipwrecked 200km north of Fraser Island.
There they were taken care of by the local Aboriginals. With his wife Eliza and 11 survivors were looked after in a place known as 'Paradise' when translated.

The 'reports' later say that Fraser & Co were 'captured' and that Fraser died of Malnutrition and Spear wounds. Eliza seems to have 'escaped' via an Irish convict who just happened to be living with them for some years (obviously not malnourished).
The group was later rescued by a band of European soldiers and she claimed she was mistreated and abused by the Aboriginals.
Lonely Planet founder Tony Wheeler, in his book 'Islands of Australia' says that there are 'conflicting' reports about that moment. Eliza Fraser, being paid for her tales, reports her six weeks up there as 'captivity' and abuse. So it roused public anger and Soldiers were sent up to 'genocide' that tribe from that area.
The only apparent conflict is that the 'others' said they were all well treated, fed and given refuge. But it seems the prima-donas of James and his Wife thought otherwise. It must have been an assault on their egos that they needed to be cared for by 'primitives'.  Roll Eyes But the other reports of 'good treatment' came too late for the Aboriginals who were 'butchered' on the whims of Eliza's fragile little eggshell accusations.

This kinda sums up the entirety of Australian early Colonial History - where one half took the negative approach and the other half wondered what all the fuss was about.

Even during the Aboriginal uprising in the Wiradjiri area.
Many 'white' Families who got on well with the Aboriginals were not attacked and were given a representative for their protection, while hordes of Abos scoured the lands for the evil Whites and their guns after a Greenkeeper decided to shoot one of them on a pathetic whim.

It's obvious that those who take the negative approach to Abos are the perpetraitors of evil in the form of genocides and massacres (because they happen to just have a bigger stick Roll Eyes in their technological superiority). While the majority of Australians appreciated the Aboriginals and did 'co-exist' harmoniously.
One Farming Family were so, when the Aboriginals kept their lands clean, clear and well maintained at the cost of the odd sheep being taken for food. It was a symbiotic relationship. But not all Farmers thought that way and took 'absolutism and extremism' in eradicating 'people' like vermin and pests.

Thankfully, today - we are seeing more of the truth coming out and the decent Australians can 'co-exist' with an Aboriginal presence here, like they do with any other people's around the world that come here.

...but then you have the racists, who can't compete fairly because they are lacking and must 'destroy' the competition at all costs with lies and violence. Much like American Economics works.
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Reply #1135 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 1:47pm
 
Why are you so afraid of the truth, Graps?  Roll Eyes
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1136 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:27pm
 
Yes bwyannnnnnnn

Why are you afraid of the truth?

We could easily starve abbos out
Just shut down all the KFC outlets.
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Reply #1137 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:50pm
 
US government should put British colony Australia under sanctions because of continuing genocide on indigenous Australians.

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Reply #1138 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:57pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:27pm:
Yes bwyannnnnnnn

Why are you afraid of the truth?

We could easily starve abbos out
Just shut down all the KFC outlets.


Goodness me what A soulless racist psychopath.
No empathy, no remorse only hatred.
Sad very sad.
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Reply #1139 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 1:47pm:
Why are you so afraid of the truth, Graps?  Roll Eyes



Not afraid of anything - just love tripping people up on contradictions that THEY post and don't even see... unfortunately it is the facts that prove the point - not the emotional meanderings of a few... for instance - there are more Aborigines now than there were then - giving the lie to 'genocide' ...

James Fraser died of spear wounds and malnutrition - ergo - he was speared... but apparently not ill-treated by local Aborigines at the time.. pretty silly, huh?

BTW - were these the same ones who clubbed and hung and ate Chinese prospectors up north?
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