NorthOfNorth wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 5:27pm:


More than it appears the Islamophobes think about.  They only have one over-riding fear - their Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk. 

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 5:40pm:


Oh, no, it takes only a fraction of my day.  I have far more important matters to attend to.  You?

Brian Ross wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 9:51pm:

Islamophobia interests me in the context of the human instinctive predisposition towards 'tribalism' - our instinctive tendency towards defining of 'the other' as an 'us' or a 'them'.

This instinct is a feature of all primates' neurological behaviour but in humans it reaches stratospheric levels such that it can be triggered in just about any situation; up to and including whether 'the other' is a 'them' because they're wearing sports attire of a rival team to yours.

It is so easily manipulable in humans that political / social / cultural / religious rhetoric is largely predicated on it.

Our predisposition towards it transcends IQ, education and almost anything else that would be considered human higher functioning.

And one thing is for certain: to try to 'tutt tutt', 'tsk tsk' or 'dearie dearie me' it away is 100% counterproductive and indicates only that the 'tutt-tutter' is trying to manifest a sense of moral / intellectual superiority over 'the other'...

Yeah, that's right... The tutt-tutter is also affected by the 'us and them' dichotomy but in a more grossly disingenuous way than his 'victim'.

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 14^th, 2021 at 6:38am:



Sorry, I was demonstrating that Islamophobia is a long way down my priority list of concerns.  Were you worried I was ignoring you?  Fear not, I have returned to the issue. 

The matter of tribalism is something that affects most people at a basic level. It is what determines our allegiance to a football team or similar and our reaction towards the opposition.  In the matter of Islam the reaction of most Australians is coloured by what they have absorbed from the media in it's negative views of most Muslims. 

Most Australians have never encountered a Muslim.  They only know what they read/see/hear from the media about them.  I've served with, studied with, worked with numerous Muslims over the decades.  I've yet to encounter a bad one or a militant one.  Doesn't mean they don't exist, just that they are far rarer than most Islamophobes are willing to admit.

Their fears override all reasoned argument.  Which is why I resort to derision.  It doesn't get through to them but it effectively states my position on the issue.  They seek to persecute innocent people who's only crime is that they worship a different religion to the mainstream Christian one.   

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 14^th, 2021 at 11:08am:


Me, a coward?  Never.

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There maybe but I have yet to encounter one.

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Really?  I've yet to encounter a large number of African-Americans so I can't really comment about their views of what White/Asian/etc-Americans believe.   

I haven't met an electron.  I don't think anybody has.  However I know what I learnt in physics class many decades ago about what properties electrons display.

Before we discuss black versus white properties you must remember, American-Blacks were ex-slaves and the descendents of slaves for the most part.  Therefore what ever cultural identity they had were wiped out by the experience of being owned by White people.  So, before you can condemn them you need to understand where they are coming from.

In Australia, white colonial descendants have long accepted the propaganda that Black indigenous Australians were simple people, nomadic in their culture and all they ever invented was a "stick".  Alone comes various discoveries, usually by white Archaeologists that have discovered that most indigenous Australians were nomadic in their existence but there appear to have been exceptions at various times where potentially more sophisticated societies existed.  Whenever this is mentioned, there is torrent of abuse from White colonial descendents who refuse to accept the latest scientific findings and what it meant to Indigenous Australians. Such people often refuse to discuss the issue rationally, preferring argument ad huminem.

So Australia has a far basic level of Racism compared to the US.  The US refuses to accept Blacks as humans all too often.  Australians look down on Indigenous Australians 'cause that was how it always was for them.

Racism rules it seems.  People are so afraid of other "races" that is all they think about, their fear.  Tsk, tsk. 

The Court just protected Aussies somewhat by jailing this killer for 33 years non-parole. It wasn't for robbery, it wasn't for domestic violence, it wasn't for a drug deal gone wrong, and it wasn't resulting from unprovable self defense

So what was it all about, why did he do it? Well, we get a clue, he cried out "Allah Akbar" during his stabbing spree. I'm sure there's no need for me to say any more, except that we have this new type of religious attitude in Australia that can lead to violence in our community. An attitude and set of values that are different to the attitudes and values of the "Aussie" population. Some people of a certain religion are quite willing to sacrifice their lives or spend half their lives in prison to get their point across, that Western culture is not for them, nor should it be for anyone else

The man who murdered Sydney woman Michaela Dunn before terrorising the city’s streets with a knife has been sentenced to 44 years behind bars, for what a judge described as a "violent, terrifying and chaotic rampage".

Mert Ney repeatedly stabbed the 24-year-old in a CBD apartment in August 2019, before filming the crime scene on his phone and sending graphic videos to friends on social media.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-14/nsw-mert-ney-sentenced-to-44-years-behind...


Be aware and keep a look out for more of these killers in the future