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Re: Electric Car emissions
Reply #45 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:37pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



Grin Grin Grin A $2150 system that's going to be a one off investment?

Cheap shyte that probably won't last 10 years.

Oh & getting paid 8 cents a KW that goes back into the grid when they charge 19 to 26 cents a KW .... takes a lot of gloss off that investment.


Not if you use it directly to charge up your EV then you get the full benefit of 26 cents a kw-hr. See what your fossil fool clunker has got to offer you in terms of fuel rebates ?? For $2150 spent at the fool bowser it just goes straight out of the tail pipe and wasted on heating up brake rotors and wearing down brake pads Sad


Hi sir Nail,
There should be a built-in solar panel
on the roof of every electric car
so while it's sitting in the hot sun
all day at work ,  the battery is being charged.

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Reply #46 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 1:43pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



You didn't answer the question petal. It was about "life time" not cost. Wink
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Reply #47 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 5:28pm
 
It will be such a relief for all concerned when the ultimate future pollution free HYDROGEN energy giant takes over and consigns the dangerous unsafe very inconvenient electric toy cars to the junk yards.
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Reply #48 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:32pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 1:43pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



You didn't answer the question petal. It was about "life time" not cost. Wink


what is your point exactly ?

Now tell us exactly what you have to offer the motoring public ?
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Reply #49 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:35pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 5:28pm:
It will be such a relief for all concerned when the ultimate future pollution free HYDROGEN energy giant takes over and consigns the dangerous unsafe very inconvenient electric toy cars to the junk yards.


Yeh right socko - hydrogen is really safe isn't it  !!

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:26am:
Hydrogen Fueling Station Explodes: Toyota & Hyundai Halt Fuel Cell Car Sales

Blast was so big it set off airbags in nearby cars.


A hydrogen refueling station exploded and stood in flames yesterday in Sandvika, Norway, which could make June 10, 2019 the day when the perception about hydrogen stations and hydrogen fuel cell cars, in general, will forever change.
According to reports from the Uno-X station, the explosion was huge. It triggered airbags in nearby cars and caused the necessity to close off the busy E18 and E16 intersection. A safety zone of 500 meters was recommended by the fire service.

"“It is probably a tank that has exploded at the hydrogen station next to the police station at Kjorbo,” The Fire Services tells the local newspaper Budstikka."
"“E18 near the site is closed in both directions due to the danger of explosion. The E16 at the Bjornegarden tunnel in Barum is closed for the same reason,” The Road Traffic Central tweets Tweets."

The cause of the explosion is not yet known as it needs to be investigated.

Because of that, Uno-X closed its two other stations with hydrogen in Norway, while carmakers - Toyota and Hyundai - temporarily stopped sales of FCVs (well, only a few per month were usually sold anyway). Owners of FCVs are expected to get loaner cars.


Taking into consideration how few hydrogen refueling stations are installed around the world, with this explosion, the average number of explosions per station will probably be orders of magnitude higher than for any other fuel. Not a good thing if you intend to promote FCVs.
We were often criticizing hydrogen fuel cell cars as a poor alternative for all-electric, because of low energy efficiency, high cost and lack of refueling infrastructure. As the charging times decreased in new BEVs thanks to ultra-fast chargers and the range on a single charge increased, it seemed that FCVs will never have a chance to take off. Any issues with safety (especially if repeated) only adds to the challenge.


Just last week a Hydrogen Plant in Sanfracisco exploded and stopped hydrogen supply there, now this...

The explosion set off airbags in surrounding areas, just lucky no one was refilling.......Hydrogen is a highly flammable liquid under immense pressure (10,000psi)..... Wink



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Re: Electric Car emissions
Reply #50 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:37pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



Grin Grin Grin A $2150 system that's going to be a one off investment?

Cheap shyte that probably won't last 10 years.

Oh & getting paid 8 cents a KW that goes back into the grid when they charge 19 to 26 cents a KW .... takes a lot of gloss off that investment.


Not if you use it directly to charge up your EV then you get the full benefit of 26 cents a kw-hr. See what your fossil fool clunker has got to offer you in terms of fuel rebates ?? For $2150 spent at the fool bowser it just goes straight out of the tail pipe and wasted on heating up brake rotors and wearing down brake pads Sad


Hi sir Nail,
There should be a built-in solar panel
on the roof of every electric car
so while it's sitting in the hot sun
all day at work ,  the battery is being charged.



I believe the new Nissan Leaf has this although the extra range you get from it is very small Wink
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Reply #51 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:59pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
what is your point exactly ?


You were saying that it would be available for a one off investment that would last a lifetime. Surely it is a reasonable question as to how long this life time is? Wink
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Reply #52 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 6:27am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:37pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



Grin Grin Grin A $2150 system that's going to be a one off investment?

Cheap shyte that probably won't last 10 years.

Oh & getting paid 8 cents a KW that goes back into the grid when they charge 19 to 26 cents a KW .... takes a lot of gloss off that investment.


Not if you use it directly to charge up your EV then you get the full benefit of 26 cents a kw-hr. See what your fossil fool clunker has got to offer you in terms of fuel rebates ?? For $2150 spent at the fool bowser it just goes straight out of the tail pipe and wasted on heating up brake rotors and wearing down brake pads Sad


Hi sir Nail,
There should be a built-in solar panel
on the roof of every electric car
so while it's sitting in the hot sun
all day at work ,  the battery is being charged.



I believe the new Nissan Leaf has this although the extra range you get from it is very small Wink



It's still good to know that electric cars are improving.
They can only get: cheaper & better.
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Reply #53 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:38am
 
Owners of the dangerous unsafe electric toy cars must feel guilty knowing they are causing extra foul pollution from the coal power stations every time they recharge their junk heap.

Very few owners can recharge at home or even fewer will have solar and many required batteries to be able to recharge overnite.

One of the biggest thrills of all with a dangerous unsafe electric car is to get a flat battery in the middle of nowhere. And it is inevitable that this will happen.

Hydrogen will save the day for big and small vehicles as electric can only power toy cars.
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Reply #54 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:10am
 
juliar wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:38am:
Owners of the dangerous unsafe electric toy cars must feel guilty knowing they are causing extra foul pollution from the coal power stations every time they recharge their junk heap.

Very few owners can recharge at home or even fewer will have solar and many required batteries to be able to recharge overnite.

One of the biggest thrills of all with a dangerous unsafe electric car is to get a flat battery in the middle of nowhere. And it is inevitable that this will happen.

Hydrogen will save the day for big and small vehicles as electric can only power toy cars.


What are you talking about socko. Millions have solar installations in Australia and Tesla provide free chargeups at their charging stations all offset by green energy of course !! I just walked past a new charging station at Monash University the other day ! It's a no brainer to tap into the grid and provide charging stations. However the same can't be said for the never ever hydrogen bullshit !!

I don't see any of these hydrogen bullshit cars or refueling stations at all !!
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Reply #55 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:11am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



Grin Grin Grin A $2150 system that's going to be a one off investment?

Cheap shyte that probably won't last 10 years.

Oh & getting paid 8 cents a KW that goes back into the grid when they charge 19 to 26 cents a KW .... takes a lot of gloss off that investment.


Not if you use it directly to charge up your EV then you get the full benefit of 26 cents a kw-hr. See what your fossil fool clunker has got to offer you in terms of fuel rebates ?? For $2150 spent at the fool bowser it just goes straight out of the tail pipe and wasted on heating up brake rotors and wearing down brake pads Sad


So electric cars have no brake rotors & pads?  Roll Eyes

The fossil fuel propels you down the road the same as the battery .....

the electric energy disappears just the same.
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Reply #56 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:13am
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:11am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



Grin Grin Grin A $2150 system that's going to be a one off investment?

Cheap shyte that probably won't last 10 years.

Oh & getting paid 8 cents a KW that goes back into the grid when they charge 19 to 26 cents a KW .... takes a lot of gloss off that investment.


Not if you use it directly to charge up your EV then you get the full benefit of 26 cents a kw-hr. See what your fossil fool clunker has got to offer you in terms of fuel rebates ?? For $2150 spent at the fool bowser it just goes straight out of the tail pipe and wasted on heating up brake rotors and wearing down brake pads Sad


So electric cars have no brake rotors & pads?  Roll Eyes

The fossil fuel propels you down the road the same as the battery .....

the electric energy disappears just the same.


They do but 90% of the time the regen is used to slow the car down and recover the energy that would be wasted as heat !!! I have driven a Tesla and that is indeed what happens so the brakes last much much longer than a fossil fool car and most of the braking energy is returned back to the batteries  !

Also when stopped at the lights which car wastes energy ?
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Reply #57 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:16am
 
So Bobby you haven't answered the question ...& I'll now ask it of Nail as well......

are you only going to drive your electric car at night?

seeings your going to be charging it from your home solar panels during the day. Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #58 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:18am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:13am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:11am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:16am:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:07pm:
like a one off investment in solar panels and batteries for a life time of free charge ups is not a good deal compared to what you lot have to offer on your clunkers



Please define "life time" in terms of years.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh and don't forget any inverters you may want to use for household power.


get serious will you. 6.6kW PV system for $2150 !!

Now your turn to tell us what discounts you have to offer fossil fool car owners for the life time of the car including service and spare parts Cheesy LOL



Grin Grin Grin A $2150 system that's going to be a one off investment?

Cheap shyte that probably won't last 10 years.

Oh & getting paid 8 cents a KW that goes back into the grid when they charge 19 to 26 cents a KW .... takes a lot of gloss off that investment.


Not if you use it directly to charge up your EV then you get the full benefit of 26 cents a kw-hr. See what your fossil fool clunker has got to offer you in terms of fuel rebates ?? For $2150 spent at the fool bowser it just goes straight out of the tail pipe and wasted on heating up brake rotors and wearing down brake pads Sad


So electric cars have no brake rotors & pads?  Roll Eyes

The fossil fuel propels you down the road the same as the battery .....

the electric energy disappears just the same.


They do but 90% of the time the regen is used to slow the car down and recover the energy that would be wasted as heat !!! I have driven a Tesla and that is indeed what happens so the brakes last much much longer than a fossil fool car !


So the electric motors are actually Traction Motors that have what's called Dynamic Braking like on locomotives?
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Reply #59 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:18am
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 10:16am:
So Bobby you haven't answered the question ...& I'll now ask it of Nail as well......

are you only going to drive your electric car at night?

seeings your going to be charging it from your home solar panels during the day. Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Those with battery storage can charge them at night using solar Wink
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