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Re: New in box
Reply #15 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:07pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:45pm:

Factory Seconds 'devalue' the word NEW like a blemish, a scratch, a faulty ability even.

New is unblemished, etc.
When a person buys a 'New' Car, it has to be presented as 'New'. If it is not 'New' - it is not 'presented' as New to the would be owner. It is 'removed' and 'replaced' by something 'New'.
If I presented a once new Car that has been scratched, blemished and anything else that would fail to be accepted by the would be owner as new and try to pass it off as a Factory Second, it obviously fails to be new anymore.
IT IS SECOND HAND like all other second hand things in the world regardless of 'how' they became second hand.

I think your concept Mimo-Smith Chips, is somewhat archaic and old world.

It's quite common. The goods are new but not perfect.

Tell that to a smart consumer and you'll never make that big sell.

Why? The info is in the description. Factory seconds is not a new thing. You want pristine? Factory firsts, pay a premium, don't mind some kind visual flaw, factory seconds can be a good deal. They are still new.
Factory second
Should I buy them

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46494 Gender:	Re: New in box Reply #16 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:28pm Do you buy 'new' foods that are past their 'used by date'? I mean - doesn't mean they have become 'un-consumerable' either as they are sold as well.
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Re: New in box
Reply #17 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:30pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 7:47pm:

As usual, Dapto, you prove to be the dope.

eBay search filter set to new. Bold large text was New in Samsung Box
I posted the fine print and was pointing that out.

Now get back on the grappa, you drunk wog.

Now now Gordo.
This is where you are wrong.
He is no 'Warrior of Greece'
He's just a Dago and not a day goes by without him wondering why Greeks make better pizzas than Italians. Grin

You do understand much of Italy was Greek before Rome became more than a collection of huts? Magna Grecia. Just sayin'.

There is no need to use these derogatory terms. However when I was young Italians were often referred to as Wogs, Wops or Daygo's. It was a horrible nasty insulting thing to call people. Greeks were mostly called Spicks, just as bad. The Greeks make good Pizza but not better than the Italians.

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Re: New in box
Reply #18 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:50pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:45pm:

Factory Seconds 'devalue' the word NEW like a blemish, a scratch, a faulty ability even.

New is unblemished, etc.
When a person buys a 'New' Car, it has to be presented as 'New'. If it is not 'New' - it is not 'presented' as New to the would be owner. It is 'removed' and 'replaced' by something 'New'.
If I presented a once new Car that has been scratched, blemished and anything else that would fail to be accepted by the would be owner as new and try to pass it off as a Factory Second, it obviously fails to be new anymore.
IT IS SECOND HAND like all other second hand things in the world regardless of 'how' they became second hand.

I think your concept Mimo-Smith Chips, is somewhat archaic and old world.

It's quite common. The goods are new but not perfect.

What pissed me off is the eBay listing had huge font for new in box and the factory second bit was at the bottom of the ad in tiny font. Lucky I checked.

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Re: New in box
Reply #19 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Setanta wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 7:47pm:

As usual, Dapto, you prove to be the dope.

eBay search filter set to new. Bold large text was New in Samsung Box
I posted the fine print and was pointing that out.

Now get back on the grappa, you drunk wog.

Now now Gordo.
This is where you are wrong.
He is no 'Warrior of Greece'
He's just a Dago and not a day goes by without him wondering why Greeks make better pizzas than Italians. Grin

You do understand much of Italy was Greek before Rome became more than a collection of huts? Magna Grecia. Just sayin'.

There is no need to use these derogatory terms. However when I was young Italians were often referred to as Wogs, Wops or Daygo's. It was a horrible nasty insulting thing to call people. Greeks were mostly called Spicks, just as bad. The Greeks make good Pizza but not better than the Italians.

You must be one of those 'American' or 'Americanised' Colonial Australians just like you get those British or Britished Convict Australians here?? Huh

They are all really 'Americanised' sledge names.

We call the people from Nippon as 'Nips' which they love, unlike being called a 'Jap' (Japanese) which they hate (unless you pay em to say otherwise for the 'camera' like a Propaganda clip from NK).
We give them a nick-name which is of their own creation.
Hence why Coons for what you call Aboriginal (not a Coon word). Koori, Boong and Pitjat are also 'respectful' nicknames of their own creation.

The word N%$##er for someone who comes from two West African nations 'igeria & 'iger, which is ironically banned from this Forum. Roll Eyes

I know a local Zimbabwean living here and is honoured that I call him a Bantu. Hell, I even picked him as a Shona. The word Kaffer is a justified respectful nickname for a people from the region of Khafferia - famous for the thing known as Caffeine.

So it's not the 'word' - its the way that it is used. Don't ban the word, for it is also a word of praise and respect. Just ban the tone and use of the word in a negative aspect.

POM: Is it a word of affection or a word of hate??

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: New in box Reply #20 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:04am Yes but what sort of WARRANTY do you get with a factory second item ? ie what happens if it is CROOK ?
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barryfromthebush Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 702 Bum Chum Gender:	Re: New in box Reply #21 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:07am juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:04am: Yes but what sort of WARRANTY do you get with a factory second item ? ie what happens if it is CROOK ? Is it being sold by the LNP?
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: New in box Reply #22 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:31am Bazza you are just avoiding the question. Just think how atrociously bad things would be by now if Shorty had gotten in!!!! The GG would be dusting the Whitlam dismissal papers off in preparation to dismiss Shorty.
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barryfromthebush Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 702 Bum Chum Gender:	Re: New in box Reply #23 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 12:31pm juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:31am: Bazza you are just avoiding the question. Just think how atrociously bad things would be by now if Shorty had gotten in!!!! The GG would be dusting the Whitlam dismissal papers off in preparation to dismiss Shorty. Do you vote LNP?
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Re: New in box
Reply #24 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 6:47pm

juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Yes but what sort of WARRANTY do you get with a factory second item ?

ie what happens if it is CROOK ?

typically, but not always, the warranty is the same as with a firsts. The faults are purely cosmetic. A dent, a scratch or a blemish as a result of manufacturing or transport. I've even once saw a factory second where it was only the packaging that was damaged.
If it's crook you do what you do with firsts that are under warranty.

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