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Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Reply #15 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:06am
Too many people driving in America on socialist tax paid roads.


Looks like America will be another Venezuela any day now.
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Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Reply #16 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:19pm
aquascoot wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 10:47am:
Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.

Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.


Say even for something like a simple trade
Say being a plumber

A socialist country says all plumbers are equal

A capitalist country says some plumbers construct pipes that don't leak and those plumbers rise to the top of the plumbers hierarchy and they make more money and they live in a better house and they employ more apprentices.
These alpha plumbers have status in the community because they have shown that they are more competent

And that is the secret of the capitalist system

Let people go into whatever business they want
Whatever they are passionate about
And then let the community judge them on their competence
And let the community arrange them into a hierarchy

And that works for everyone in all Fields and allows the society to be as productive and to produce as much wealth as a society can produce

And then you can redistribute some of this if you wish

But the basic premise of a socialist society the we are all equal brothers in some constructed utopia is a load of rubbish
It has been tried many times
It produces no wealth
It is always a catastrophe

Just so.

Adam Smith called it the invisible hand that arranges private free enterprise into a great common wealth.

Socialism kills the individual (a reality) for an abstraction and ruins everything in the process.

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Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Reply #17 - Yesterday at 10:14pm


PRAGER: The Equation That Explains Evil

By Dennis Prager
September 14, 2019

GI - W = E

Good Intentions (GI) minus Wisdom (W) leads to Evil (E).

......Communism, the greatest mass murder ideology in history, was for almost all its rank-and-file supporters rooted in their desire to do good.
(This was rarely true for its leaders, whose greatest desire was power.)

The many millions of people all over the world who supported communism did not think they were supporting unprecedented levels of mass murder and torture or an equally unprecedented deprivation of the most fundamental human rights of a substantial percentage of humanity.

They thought they were moral, building a beautiful future for humanity — eliminating inequality, enabling people to work as hard or as little as they wanted, providing their fellow citizens "free" education and "free" health care.

......That's why leftists have such moral contempt for those who differ with them.

Because those on the Left are so good, only bad human beings could possibly oppose them.


Yadda said....

Socialism is brilliant, and laudable, in theory.

But human nature ['the human condition'] always defeats it, in practice.

laudable = = deserving praise and commendation.


Political LEFTISTS = = almost always are people who act with good intentions.

Political LEFTISTS = = almost always are, conformists/popularists/social 'groupies'.
....they are never happier, than when they are at a protest,      ...all together.

populist = =
1 a member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people.
2 a person who supports or seeks to appeal to the interests of ordinary people.

Conformists = = always refuse to take moral responsibility for the [bad] consequences of their choices.

Conformists = = persons who always exhibit little or no respect, for reason[ing] and truth.


Jesus Christ, as a man, was a hated non-conformist of his day.

The people loved the healing, but they hated the rebukes, and they hated the truth about themselves.

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee...."

And it was the conformists of his day, who called for his death, and who, in fact, caused Jesus to be murdered.

Mark 15:12
And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
13  And they cried out again, Crucify him.
14  Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

The society of his day, sought to murder Jesus Christ, because, he was a social non-conformist.

If you are a person who hates truth [being spoken], hate God, the God of truth. [Deuteronomy 32:4   Psalms 31:5   Isaiah 65:16]

If you hate God, you are lost.

Revelation 22:11
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Psalms 31:5
Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.

It is all connected.

Truth, and the lies.

Isaiah 30:9
That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
10  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
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