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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131456 Gender:	Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision Reply #390 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm: I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh? He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness. He never made a complaint to the police. In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.
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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #391 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #392 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:31pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

Extraordinary.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131456 Gender:	Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision Reply #393 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:36pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm: It is not outside the realm of probability that over years a person may have enhanced a story, and by repetition, have had it become 'their' reality ..... ^ This
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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #394 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #395 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:47pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

It's not that he didn't tell.

It's the fact that he was specifically asked, and said 'no'.

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #396 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

It's not that he didn't tell.

It's the fact that he was specifically asked, and said 'no'.

I don't see how that negates anything. He still could have been too afraid to tell.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision Reply #397 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm Afraid to tell his Mother?
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision Reply #398 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:59pm Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm: Afraid to tell his Mother? Yep, plenty of people do it on the basis they may be ostracised from their family. My key take home point is that telling/not telling someone is individual and not for us to judge.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision Reply #399 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:05pm Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm: Afraid to tell his Mother? Link.
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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #400 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

It's not that he didn't tell.

It's the fact that he was specifically asked, and said 'no'.

I don't see how that negates anything. He still could have been too afraid to tell.

Yep.

He could have been telling the truth too.

It seems a bit harsh to assume he was lying when he said 'no'.

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #401 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

It's not that he didn't tell.

It's the fact that he was specifically asked, and said 'no'.

I don't see how that negates anything. He still could have been too afraid to tell.

Yep.

He could have been telling the truth too.

It seems a bit harsh to assume he was lying when he said 'no'.

I don't think its cruel, I just think it's irrelevant.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #402 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm:

Afraid to tell his Mother?

Yep, plenty of people do it on the basis they may be ostracised from their family. My key take home point is that telling/not telling someone is individual and not for us to judge.

that surely is an excuse for the way you believe things happened.....

many sexualy abused kids have told a parent what happened.... and not been believed....its the parent who got it wrong in the end....

ask yourself why would a mother LIE about something that serious?.....

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #403 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

It's not that he didn't tell.

It's the fact that he was specifically asked, and said 'no'.

I don't see how that negates anything. He still could have been too afraid to tell.

Yep.

He could have been telling the truth too.

It seems a bit harsh to assume he was lying when he said 'no'.

I don't think its cruel, I just think it's irrelevant.

A guy you've never met, and you automatically assume he's a liar? Undecided

Seems harsh to me.

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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #404 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

I thought the only corroborating witness had died....... kind of convenient both ways, eh?

He died, but he wasn't a corroborating witness.

He never made a complaint to the police.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he told his family that it never happened.

He was asked by his Mother if he had ever been molested and he said that he hadn't.

That doesn't prove much either way, its long been shown that some victims of molestation dont tell family or friends

It's not that he didn't tell.

It's the fact that he was specifically asked, and said 'no'.

I don't see how that negates anything. He still could have been too afraid to tell.

Yep.

He could have been telling the truth too.

It seems a bit harsh to assume he was lying when he said 'no'.

I don't think its cruel, I just think it's irrelevant.

A guy you've never met, and you automatically assume he's a liar? Undecided

Seems harsh to me.

Seems idiotic you'd reach that conclusion.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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