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Google Censoring Conservative Media.
Aug 15th, 2019 at 8:30am
 
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Project Veritas: Leaked Google Documents Prove Tech Giant is Censoring: Rush Limbaugh, Gateway Pundit, Newsbusters, MRCTV, Daily Caller, Michelle Malkin, etc.


In November 2018 The Guardian reported on  group of Google employees who published an open letter calling on their employer to cancel its plans to build a censored search engine for China.   Google employees were very upset that Google’s Project Dragonfly would allow the Chinese government to blacklist certain search terms.

But their blacklist operations were not just in China.

It is obvious that Google, Facebook and Twitter are using their own political blacklists to censor and diminish traffic to prominent conservative publishers and their supporters.

If you search Google for prominent conservative voices including: Mike Cernovich, Joe diGenova, Jack Posobiec or Gateway Pundit you will see hit pieces and biased attacks.

The Gateway Pundit is one of the largest, most accurate and most influential publishers in the country today.  But earlier this year if you searched Google for “Gateway Pundit” the first item that popped up was a hit piece on The Gateway Pundit followed by several more links that smeared our website.

On Wednesday Project Veritas released leaked documents from a Google insider that shows The Gateway Pundit, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Newsbusters, American Thinker, MRCTV, American Lookout, Twitchy, Daily Caller, Natural News, The Rebel Media, LifeNews, BizPac Review, YoungCons and many others are being targeted, censored, blacklisted and silenced by Google.

It doesn’t matter if you are pro-Tump or a Never Trumper– as long as you are conservative you made their list.


Censoring of Hundreds of Conservative sites in an attempt to change the outcome of the US election.

They need to be shut down and thrown in Jail  Angry

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Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 8:51am
 
Google and FB are "censoring" health websites and groups now too ... and they aren't conservative.
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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:26am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 8:30am:
Censoring of Hundreds of Conservative sites in an attempt to change the outcome of the US election.


Meh   Roll Eyes

The Russians changed the outcome of the last election.

What goes around comes around.

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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:26am
 
It is one of life's ironies
The creative types add Google and Facebook and Twitter tend to be liberals
Liberals are higher in creativeness
Conservatives are higher in conscientious

The irony is that the lefties who have created companies such as Google and other new companies run on machine learning and artificial intelligence are causing the massive displacement of enormous numbers of basic income workers

So it is the left in silicon valley which will eventually see most transport workers call centre operators factory workers
Food processing workers displaced and thrown on the scrapheap by the technologies they have developed
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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:28am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:26am:
It is one of life's ironies
The creative types add Google and Facebook and Twitter tend to be liberals
Liberals are higher in creativeness
Conservatives are higher in conscientious



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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:17am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 8:30am:
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Project Veritas: Leaked Google Documents Prove Tech Giant is Censoring: Rush Limbaugh, Gateway Pundit, Newsbusters, MRCTV, Daily Caller, Michelle Malkin, etc.


In November 2018 The Guardian reported on  group of Google employees who published an open letter calling on their employer to cancel its plans to build a censored search engine for China.   Google employees were very upset that Google’s Project Dragonfly would allow the Chinese government to blacklist certain search terms.

But their blacklist operations were not just in China.

It is obvious that Google, Facebook and Twitter are using their own political blacklists to censor and diminish traffic to prominent conservative publishers and their supporters.

If you search Google for prominent conservative voices including: Mike Cernovich, Joe diGenova, Jack Posobiec or Gateway Pundit you will see hit pieces and biased attacks.

The Gateway Pundit is one of the largest, most accurate and most influential publishers in the country today.  But earlier this year if you searched Google for “Gateway Pundit” the first item that popped up was a hit piece on The Gateway Pundit followed by several more links that smeared our website.

On Wednesday Project Veritas released leaked documents from a Google insider that shows The Gateway Pundit, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Newsbusters, American Thinker, MRCTV, American Lookout, Twitchy, Daily Caller, Natural News, The Rebel Media, LifeNews, BizPac Review, YoungCons and many others are being targeted, censored, blacklisted and silenced by Google.

It doesn’t matter if you are pro-Tump or a Never Trumper– as long as you are conservative you made their list.


Censoring of Hundreds of Conservative sites in an attempt to change the outcome of the US election.

They need to be shut down and thrown in Jail  Angry

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https://www.projectveritas.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/news-black-list-site-for-google-now.txt


The Gateway Pundit is nothing like what is described here and projectveritas have their own issues with lying and fraudulent reporting.

IF this is true, it's outrageous.  But a reputable source is needed.

So far none has been found.
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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:59am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:26am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 8:30am:
Censoring of Hundreds of Conservative sites in an attempt to change the outcome of the US election.


Meh   Roll Eyes

The Russians changed the outcome of the last election.

What goes around comes around.



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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 12:19pm
 
Actually i googled google censorship. They are pretty upfront about the fact they censor whatever they feel like it but they arent  singling out "conservative" stuff. This is propagated by some extremely partisan right wing nutjobs who think slightly right wing is "left". I suspect they are trying to filter out hate speech but imo they should leave it alone.

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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:22pm
 
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Whistleblower Comes Forward After Google Intimidates Him with Police ‘Welllness Check’

Project Veritas’ anonymous Google insider who released internal documents in June has decided to go public in a recent interview after receiving a threatening letter from Google and having the police show up at his home in San Francisco.

“This is an act of atonement, to make my conscience clear,” Zachary Vorhies, a former senior software engineer at Google, said in an interview with Project Veritas.

“I felt that our entire election system was going to be compromised forever by this company that told the American public that it was not going to do any evil.”

After his anonymous interview with Project Veritas in June, Google sent Vorhies a letter that said it knew what he had done. The letter made a series of demands, including that he hand over his laptop that contained internal documents he had saved over his time working at the company.

Although Vorhies answered Google’s questions honestly, he sent the documents to the Department of Justice Antitrust Division.

“I had been collecting the documents for over a year. And the reason why I collected these documents was because I saw something dark and nefarious going on with the company and I realized that they were going to not only tamper with elections, but use that tampering with the elections to essentially overthrow the United States,” Vorhies said.

“They were intending to sculpt the information landscape so that they could create their own version of what was objectively true.”

After a Twitter user outed Vorhies as the anonymous leaker in June, attorneys told him Google would try to ruin his life. So he created a “deadman’s switch” to release all of the documents to the public in case something happened to him.

These concerns may have been justified, as the police were sent to find Vorhies, and San Francisco authorities confirmed to Project Veritas that they had been asked to make a “mental health call.”

“Google decided to do a ‘wellness check’ and from what I’ve understood from other attorneys is that they are trying to establish that I have some kind of mental problem to make their case easier,” Vorhies said. “This is a large way in which [Google tries to] intimidate their employees that go rogue on the company.”

Because of Google’s reaction, Vorhies decided to go public and release the 950 pages of insider documents to get the target off of his back. All of these documents were available to full-time employees, he said.

“When they see the documents themselves, they’re going to be shocked, they’re going to be terrified, and they’re going to be like, ‘How can Google so blatantly lie to the American public and lie to Congress when there is a pile of evidence that what they’re saying is untrue,'” Vorhies said.

One of those documents was a blacklist for Google Now, a feature on the Google app that has now been merged with the regular Google feed, which includes websites like Conservative Tribune, a section of The Western Journal, The Gateway Pundit, NewsBusters and many others.

According to Vorhies, this is just one of many blacklists.

“If Google wants to have political bias and they want to say they have political bias, that is their right as a company,” he said.

“But for them to go under oath and say these blacklists do not exist … is hypocritical at the least and perjury at the worse.”

This document, as well as the other leaked blacklists, is important because, in his December 2018 testimony in front of Congress, Google CEO Sundar Pichai said, “We don’t manually intervene any particular search. Providing users with access to high quality information is sacrosanct.”

Congress is currently investigating Google on antitrust issues. It remains to be seen whether Pichai or any of Google’s representatives lied to Congress.

The Western Journal has reached out to Google for comment but has not yet received a response. We will update this article if and when we do.


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The Liberal threats and intimidation continues - a recent “welfare check” by police ended up with a man being shot dead - Maybe Google was hoping for this to happen.  Undecided
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James Damore, a former Google engineer who was fired in August after posting a memo to an internal Google message board arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering, has filed a class action lawsuit against the company in Santa Clara Superior Court in Northern California.

His claims: that Google unfairly discriminates against white men whose political views are unpopular with its executives.

Damore is joined in the 161-page suit by another former Google engineer named David Gudeman, who spent three years with Google working on a query engine. According to Gudeman’s LinkedIn profile, he left the company in December 2016 and has been self-employed since.

The lawsuit, filed by Dhillon Law Group, says it aims to represent all employees of Google who’ve been discriminated against due to their “perceived conservative political views by Google,” due to “their male gender by Google” and “due to their Caucasian race by Google.”

More specifically, it accuses Google of singling out, mistreating and systematically punishing and terminating employees who “expressed views deviating from the majority view at Google on political subjects raised in the workplace and relevant to Google’s employment policies and its business, such as ‘diversity’ hiring policies, ‘bias sensitivity’ or ‘social justice’…”

Damore isn’t holding back any punches here. According to his filing, Google employs “illegal hiring quotas to fill its desired percentages of women and favored minority candidates, and openly shames managers of business units who fail to meet their  quotas—in the process, openly denigrating male and Caucasian employees as less favored than others.”

The suit also claims that the “numerical presence of women celebrated at Google” was based “solely due to their gender” while the “presence of Caucasians and males was mocked with ‘boos’ during companywide weekly meetings.”
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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:15pm
 
You just have to skip the first 10-20 results of any search.
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:20pm:
James Damore, a former Google engineer who was fired in August after posting a memo to an internal Google message board arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering, has filed a class action lawsuit against the company in Santa Clara Superior Court in Northern California.

His claims: that Google unfairly discriminates against white men whose political views are unpopular with its executives.

Damore is joined in the 161-page suit by another former Google engineer named David Gudeman, who spent three years with Google working on a query engine. According to Gudeman’s LinkedIn profile, he left the company in December 2016 and has been self-employed since.

The lawsuit, filed by Dhillon Law Group, says it aims to represent all employees of Google who’ve been discriminated against due to their “perceived conservative political views by Google,” due to “their male gender by Google” and “due to their Caucasian race by Google.”

More specifically, it accuses Google of singling out, mistreating and systematically punishing and terminating employees who “expressed views deviating from the majority view at Google on political subjects raised in the workplace and relevant to Google’s employment policies and its business, such as ‘diversity’ hiring policies, ‘bias sensitivity’ or ‘social justice’…”

Damore isn’t holding back any punches here. According to his filing, Google employs “illegal hiring quotas to fill its desired percentages of women and favored minority candidates, and openly shames managers of business units who fail to meet their  quotas—in the process, openly denigrating male and Caucasian employees as less favored than others.”

The suit also claims that the “numerical presence of women celebrated at Google” was based “solely due to their gender” while the “presence of Caucasians and males was mocked with ‘boos’ during company wide weekly meetings.”


This is significant.
It would not have been possible under Hillary.

This sort of reality language is only possible under Trump.
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Reply #12 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 12:01am
 
Is Google painting over the Conservative scribblings on the back of public toilet doors?

Denizen Bobbi could have some expertise to share.
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Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 6:02am
 
Conservates: We want the Government to leave us and our businesses alone, less regulation, less red/green tape, leave it to the private sector, they know best.

Also Conservatives: We don't like how these companies are acting, we want the Government to step in tell them how to operate to suit us.

Handing that power to the Government is dangerous, and knowing Trump, it will be an overreach, it will have bypassed the normal congressional process because he can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag making clawing back these powers even harder, none of his supporters will say anything, Trump won't be in office anymore and they'll scream bloody murder when the Liberals change anything using these powers but they'll be nothing they can do about it.
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Reply #14 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 7:14am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 8:30am:
Censoring of Hundreds of Conservative sites in an attempt to change the outcome of the US election.

They need to be shut down and thrown in Jail  Angry




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"Conservative filmmaker James O’Keefe was sentenced to three years of probation, 100 hours of community service and a $1,500 fine after he pleaded guilty on Wednesday to misdemeanor charges stemming from his involvement in a break-in at Sen. Mary Landrieu’s (D-La.) office.

In January, O’Keefe and three others were arrested by federal authorities at Landrieu’s office on allegations of phone-tampering.

Prosecutors initially said they caught four individuals in the process of committing a felony, but the charges were later reduced to misdemeanors.

O’Keefe got the toughest sentence. His co-defendants, Stan Dai, Joseph Basel and Robert Flanagan, each got two years of probation, 75 hours of community service and the same fine as O’Keefe.



By the way, Google, Twitter, Instagram are not publicly owned forums not are they legally bound to First Amendment Rights. Project Veritas is a known scam and O'Keefe a grifter and con artist. He is banned not out some "liberal plot" but because he is a con artist.

Grow the bugger up and get off line and look for a god damn job. Hippie.

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Reply #15 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:07am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 6:02am:
Conservates: We want the Government to leave us and our businesses alone, less regulation, less red/green tape, leave it to the private sector, they know best.

Also Conservatives: We don't like how these companies are acting, we want the Government to step in tell them how to operate to suit us.

Handing that power to the Government is dangerous, and knowing Trump, it will be an overreach, it will have bypassed the normal congressional process because he can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag making clawing back these powers even harder, none of his supporters will say anything, Trump won't be in office anymore and they'll scream bloody murder when the Liberals change anything using these powers but they'll be nothing they can do about it.


We get it,

You only believe in freedom of speech when its something you agree with.

You also support criminals who try to change the results to free elections.

You want to take away Second Amendment rights so that you can install a dictatorship to beat down a defenceless society.

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Reply #16 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:09am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:20pm:
James Damore, a former Google engineer who was fired in August after posting a memo to an internal Google message board arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering, has filed a class action lawsuit against the company in Santa Clara Superior Court in Northern California.

His claims: that Google unfairly discriminates against white men whose political views are unpopular with its executives.

Damore is joined in the 161-page suit by another former Google engineer named David Gudeman, who spent three years with Google working on a query engine. According to Gudeman’s LinkedIn profile, he left the company in December 2016 and has been self-employed since.

The lawsuit, filed by Dhillon Law Group, says it aims to represent all employees of Google who’ve been discriminated against due to their “perceived conservative political views by Google,” due to “their male gender by Google” and “due to their Caucasian race by Google.”

More specifically, it accuses Google of singling out, mistreating and systematically punishing and terminating employees who “expressed views deviating from the majority view at Google on political subjects raised in the workplace and relevant to Google’s employment policies and its business, such as ‘diversity’ hiring policies, ‘bias sensitivity’ or ‘social justice’…”

Damore isn’t holding back any punches here. According to his filing, Google employs “illegal hiring quotas to fill its desired percentages of women and favored minority candidates, and openly shames managers of business units who fail to meet their  quotas—in the process, openly denigrating male and Caucasian employees as less favored than others.”

The suit also claims that the “numerical presence of women celebrated at Google” was based “solely due to their gender” while the “presence of Caucasians and males was mocked with ‘boos’ during company wide weekly meetings.”


This is significant.
It would not have been possible under Hillary.

This sort of reality language is only possible under Trump.


Google has also been working with the Chinese Military and has recently declined to work with the US Military.

Its time to take these Traitors down  Angry
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Reply #17 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:57am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:07am:
We get it,

You only believe in freedom of speech when its something you agree with.




Hey asshole, Google is a private company. They have no legal responsibility to take heed of Constitutional laws. Understand, shiferbrains?

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Reply #18 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 4:45pm
 
A complaint by Project Veritas is worthless.  As anyone and everyone knows, any group or company with 'truth' in their name, is not after truth or proclaiming it. IN fact, quite he contrary.

Project Veritas has a long record of lying, false claims and general seeking to misrepresent facts.



and anyhow... Google can do what it wants. It is a private company.
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Reply #19 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:14pm
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:07am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 6:02am:
Conservates: We want the Government to leave us and our businesses alone, less regulation, less red/green tape, leave it to the private sector, they know best.

Also Conservatives: We don't like how these companies are acting, we want the Government to step in tell them how to operate to suit us.

Handing that power to the Government is dangerous, and knowing Trump, it will be an overreach, it will have bypassed the normal congressional process because he can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag making clawing back these powers even harder, none of his supporters will say anything, Trump won't be in office anymore and they'll scream bloody murder when the Liberals change anything using these powers but they'll be nothing they can do about it.


We get it,

You only believe in freedom of speech when its something you agree with.

You also support criminals who try to change the results to free elections.

You want to take away Second Amendment rights so that you can install a dictatorship to beat down a defenceless society.

Hitler would have been proud of you  Smiley


If it was a freedom of speech issue, only the right would be targeted.  The truth is it's not just the right being targeted but, of course, the liars on the right with an agenda to push ignore them.

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Reply #20 - Aug 17th, 2019 at 8:31am
 
Marla wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:07am:
We get it,

You only believe in freedom of speech when its something you agree with.




Hey asshole, Google is a private company. They have no legal responsibility to take heed of Constitutional laws. Understand, shiferbrains?



Governments have been known to pass legislation to regulate the behaviour of private companies, Harry Armpits.
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Reply #21 - Aug 17th, 2019 at 9:11am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 8:31am:
Marla wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:07am:
We get it,

You only believe in freedom of speech when its something you agree with.




Hey asshole, Google is a private company. They have no legal responsibility to take heed of Constitutional laws. Understand, shiferbrains?



Governments have been known to pass legislation to regulate the behaviour of private companies, Harry Armpits.


And the Right are the ones who campaign against that.  Reduce regulation, cut red tape, cut green tape etc etc...

When it suits them.

Project Vertias have done they're claiming Google are doing.  They're not telling the full story, they're not telling the full story, only the aspects that suit their narrative, and those who like what they have to say don't want to know the full story because they like their biases and options being reinforced because it makes them feel right.

The insecurity of those on the right is feeding the true cause of fake news.

Again, like everything else the right make a bit deal about, fake news, censorship, free speech, Government overreach, etc, they don't care about those issues when it's the rights of others being trampled in their favour, but will speak out like they're the most important issues the country faces the moment they feel it's their rights at risk.

Remember when the US Debt was all Obama's fault and a huge emergency, so much so the Republicans would use it as justification to fight everything Obama tried to do, "How are you going to pay for it", and even now against the Dem candidates, they're saying the same thing.

But now that the reduction in debt has been reversed from Obama's hard work to what Trump is doing now, not a peep.  No longer do they care about debt...
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Reply #22 - Aug 17th, 2019 at 9:36am
 
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Governments have been known to pass legislation to regulate the behaviour of private companies, Harry Armpits.

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"Have been known"? Say, aren't you right-wing troll all against regulations? Have any "have been known" examples, bridge artard?
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Reply #23 - Aug 17th, 2019 at 9:56am
 
Reading the documents I am finding it difficult to find support for the claims made.

There is a list that ranks the news value of news sites. I would expect that Brairbeet would rank below the ABC and that FOX news would be in between these and at or near the bottom end of genuine news outlets.

A search engine has to have some algorithms to select stories based on likely value or it isn't a search engine.

The article does not mention that many sites with a low ranking are from the more extreme left. Does anyone really find it a surprise that the more extreme biased outlets are rated lower in value be they right or left politically ?

There are lots of docs about AI fairness, it is mostly about how difficult it is and how to get it right. There is a lot about current unfairness- perceptions and problems.

Youtube has a black list, it is dominated by mass shootings and massacres, anyone surprised that Youtube do not want to play video's of these events ? Much of it may be illegal. Not exactly contentious is it.

Documents about algorithmic unfairness are about the problems and how to fix them.

Looking at the stories it should not be so difficult to find something contentious.
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I couldn't be a.r.s.e.d arguing. But just posting 'They're a private company...blah blah';  just doesn't cut it , Harry.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 10:27am:
I couldn't be a.r.s.e.d arguing. But just posting 'They're a private company...blah blah';  just doesn't cut it , Harry.


Conservatives didn't care about 1st Amendment Rights when Kaepernick took a knee, but now that some of them are stupid enough to buy into the conspiracy and think they're being targeted, now they care.

Too late.

They're wrong about the entire premise, but even if they weren't, what kind of horseshit is this..?

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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 10:27am:
I couldn't be a.r.s.e.d arguing.


Not at all, dear, you couldn't be a.r.s.e.d thinking.

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You only believe in freedom of speech when its something you agree with.

You also support criminals who try to change the results to free elections.

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Can you please be a dear and not trim posts when you quote? I know it makes it a bit harder to conjure up your sparkling wit but I'm sure you can still come up with some 'A' material.
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Negroid ghetto speak just sounds retarded.
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You know from all the stories on this topic all the posts with cut and paste articles etc and reading as many of the released material as I could stomach I am still to find a single comment that actually supports the claim in the topics title ?

Anybody got anything ?
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Yep. Lots.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 11:47am:
Quote:
Google Censoring Conservative Media.


You know from all the stories on this topic all the posts with cut and paste articles etc and reading as many of the released material as I could stomach I am still to find a single comment that actually supports the claim in the topics title ?

Anybody got anything ?


Nope.
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"Google announced its first attempt to combat the circulation of “fake news” on its search engine with new tools allowing users to report misleading or offensive content, and a pledge to improve results generated by its algorithm.

The technology company said it would allow people to complain about misleading, inaccurate or hateful content in its autocomplete function, which pops up to suggest searches based on the first few characters typed.

It also said it would refine its search engine to “surface more authoritative pages and demote low-quality content” – and acknowledged for the first time that it had taken the measures to combat the threat of fake news.


Ben Gomes, vice-president of engineering, Google Search, said in a blogpost: “In a world where tens of thousands of pages are coming online every minute of every day, there are new ways that people try to game the system,. The most high-profile of these issues is the phenomenon of ‘fake news’, where content on the web has contributed to the spread of blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information.” "

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/25/google-launches-major-offensi...

The definition of "fake news" is anything Google want to make it. They become the arbiter of what is true or not.

...

"That screencap is from April 22nd, 2011."

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/20/google-fails-the-dont-be-evil-maxim-when-...


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"DailyMail: 50% Drop In Traffic After Google June 2019 Core Update"

https://www.seroundtable.com/dailymail-hit-google-core-update-27690.html

from a link at -

https://www.seroundtable.com/category/google-updates

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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 1:57pm:
"Google announced its first attempt to combat the circulation of “fake news” on its search engine with new tools allowing users to report misleading or offensive content, and a pledge to improve results generated by its algorithm.

The technology company said it would allow people to complain about misleading, inaccurate or hateful content in its autocomplete function, which pops up to suggest searches based on the first few characters typed.

It also said it would refine its search engine to “surface more authoritative pages and demote low-quality content” – and acknowledged for the first time that it had taken the measures to combat the threat of fake news.


Ben Gomes, vice-president of engineering, Google Search, said in a blogpost: “In a world where tens of thousands of pages are coming online every minute of every day, there are new ways that people try to game the system,. The most high-profile of these issues is the phenomenon of ‘fake news’, where content on the web has contributed to the spread of blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information.” "

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/25/google-launches-major-offensi...

The definition of "fake news" is anything Google want to make it. They become the arbiter of what is true or not.

https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/wuwt-googlebloc...

"That screencap is from April 22nd, 2011."

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/20/google-fails-the-dont-be-evil-maxim-when-...




The screencap looks like it's from the 90s...
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SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
The screencap looks like it's from the 90s...



Wow. That was dep and insightful. Not. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

No wonder you change your name so much.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 12:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 11:47am:
Quote:
Google Censoring Conservative Media.


You know from all the stories on this topic all the posts with cut and paste articles etc and reading as many of the released material as I could stomach I am still to find a single comment that actually supports the claim in the topics title ?

Anybody got anything ?


Nope.

Yep.
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 1:57pm:
"Google announced its first attempt to combat the circulation of “fake news” on its search engine with new tools allowing users to report misleading or offensive content, and a pledge to improve results generated by its algorithm.

The technology company said it would allow people to complain about misleading, inaccurate or hateful content in its autocomplete function, which pops up to suggest searches based on the first few characters typed.

It also said it would refine its search engine to “surface more authoritative pages and demote low-quality content” – and acknowledged for the first time that it had taken the measures to combat the threat of fake news.


Ben Gomes, vice-president of engineering, Google Search, said in a blogpost: “In a world where tens of thousands of pages are coming online every minute of every day, there are new ways that people try to game the system,. The most high-profile of these issues is the phenomenon of ‘fake news’, where content on the web has contributed to the spread of blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information.” "

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/25/google-launches-major-offensi...

The definition of "fake news" is anything Google want to make it. They become the arbiter of what is true or not.

https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/wuwt-googlebloc...

"That screencap is from April 22nd, 2011."

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/20/google-fails-the-dont-be-evil-maxim-when-...




Quote:
The definition of "fake news" is anything Google want to make it. They become the arbiter of what is true or not.


Guaranteed to be a much higher standard than Trump uses ? Trumps definition of fake news is anything that is not in his favour. In fact most Trump defined fake news has turned out to have been true.

The vast majority have little problem identifying what is true and what is not. I would expect Google to get this right a high percentage of the time with a non biased error rate.

Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.

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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 12:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 11:47am:
Quote:
Google Censoring Conservative Media.


You know from all the stories on this topic all the posts with cut and paste articles etc and reading as many of the released material as I could stomach I am still to find a single comment that actually supports the claim in the topics title ?

Anybody got anything ?


Nope.
v
Yep.


Would posting it be too difficult ?
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:14pm:
Guaranteed to be a much higher standard than Trump uses ?


I am glad you asked that as a question. But it doesn't inspire confidence. Wink

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:14pm:
The vast majority have little problem identifying what is true and what is not. I would expect Google to get this right a high percentage of the time with a non biased error rate.

Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.


So most of the time is now all of the time? Grin Grin Grin Grin

The Daily Mail is a somewhat right leaning newspaper. Wink
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:25pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:14pm:
Guaranteed to be a much higher standard than Trump uses ?


I am glad you asked that as a question. But it doesn't inspire confidence. Wink

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:14pm:
The vast majority have little problem identifying what is true and what is not. I would expect Google to get this right a high percentage of the time with a non biased error rate.

Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.


So most of the time is now all of the time? Grin Grin Grin Grin

The Daily Mail is a somewhat right leaning newspaper. Wink


Still Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right. Only more dribble.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
Still Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.



So by using the algorithm to demote the Daily Mail, a right wing paper according to some, that is not censoring them; merely putting them in their proper place.

Or it is something and that something is censorship, but you don't want to admit it.

If you limit the number of hits it gets by pushing them down a page or two  that is censorship. It is limiting the right of people to have access to ideas that don't fit their (Googles) credo. Putting things down a page or two has that effect.

How many times do you go to page 2 or 3 or more of a Google search?
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
Still Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.



So by using the algorithm to demote the Daily Mail, a right wing paper according to some, that is not censoring them; merely putting them in their proper place.

Or it is something and that something is censorship, but you don't want to admit it.

If you limit the number of hits it gets by pushing them down a page or two  that is censorship. It is limiting the right of people to have access to ideas that don't fit their (Googles) credo. Putting things down a page or two has that effect.

How many times do you go to page 2 or 3 or more of a Google search?


If you look at the file all the prominent trusted news services have a highish rating the out their biased known to be inaccurate services or extreme have lower ratings irrespective of the direction of the leaning and the one's in the middle have mid range ratings.

Not sure that the UK News site was even on the list or what it ranked. However a third party extension did get this one wrong and has changed it. But that was never google.

Do you know what Googles ranking for the Daily Mail site was ?

The fact remains that there were as many left outlets with low scores as right, it may be the wrong number allocated but it isn't bias when it is not related to the politics supported but to the site accuracy.
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Reply #44 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 4:00pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
Still Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.



So by using the algorithm to demote the Daily Mail, a right wing paper according to some, that is not censoring them; merely putting them in their proper place.

Or it is something and that something is censorship, but you don't want to admit it.

If you limit the number of hits it gets by pushing them down a page or two  that is censorship. It is limiting the right of people to have access to ideas that don't fit their (Googles) credo. Putting things down a page or two has that effect.

How many times do you go to page 2 or 3 or more of a Google search?


Google was caught out with the 'Trump' 'Impeachment' thing in its search engine. Everyonr knows you have to skip the first twenty pages if you don't want left wing drivel.
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Geez guys the order is determined by who pays them the most for rankings

My brothers site comes up 5th when you search for the site name

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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
Still Nothing here that shows Google censoring the right.



So by using the algorithm to demote the Daily Mail, a right wing paper according to some, that is not censoring them; merely putting them in their proper place.

Or it is something and that something is censorship, but you don't want to admit it.

If you limit the number of hits it gets by pushing them down a page or two  that is censorship. It is limiting the right of people to have access to ideas that don't fit their (Googles) credo. Putting things down a page or two has that effect.

How many times do you go to page 2 or 3 or more of a Google search?


Google was caught out with the 'Trump' 'Impeachment' thing in its search engine. Everyonr knows you have to skip the first twenty pages if you don't want left wing drivel.


Is that why you never look anything up, dear?
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The fact remains that there were as many left outlets with low scores as right, it may be the wrong number allocated but it isn't bias when it is not related to the politics supported but to the site accuracy.


So if they give a site the wrong ranking it is not a bias; intentional or otherwise? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
The screencap looks like it's from the 90s...



Wow. That was dep and insightful. Not. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

No wonder you change your name so much.  Grin Grin Grin Grin


No but honestly, didn't Google look more modern in 2011?
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I look things up. I just don't like to make it easy for the numpties. I know you feel the same...being a male/female black/white right wing/left wing whatever you are.
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No but honestly, didn't Google look more modern in 2011?



Honestly?  Who care what Google looked like then or looks like now?

I get it. Your Image Conscious. It means everything to you. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
The fact remains that there were as many left outlets with low scores as right, it may be the wrong number allocated but it isn't bias when it is not related to the politics supported but to the site accuracy.


So if they give a site the wrong ranking it is not a bias; intentional or otherwise? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The people who pay the most get the highest rankings. Google is a business. Capitalism innit

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The people who pay the most get the highest rankings. Google is a business. Capitalism innit



Perhaps. Nothing about being biased one way or the other.

Of course the fossil fuel industry one would think would be able to buy their way to the top of the tree and kill any climate alarmism. They are supposed to have far more money than the poor "climate scientists". Wink
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SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 4:51pm:
No but honestly, didn't Google look more modern in 2011?



Honestly?  Who care what Google looked like then or looks like now?

I get it. Your Image Conscious. It means everything to you. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


I just want the image to be authentic.  So often "proofs" that are presented don't pass the smell test and require a fact check.

I haven't been able to do so and it could be 100% fine, and judging by the url it seems to be so, but I guess I thought Google didn't look so... geocities in 2011. 
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I haven't been able to do so and it could be 100% fine, and judging by the url it seems to be so, but I guess I thought Google didn't look so... geocities in 2011. 


Not my problem.

But Google like their flights of fancy.

"The Best Google Logos Of 2011"

https://marketingland.com/googles-happy-new-year-logo-recapping-the-years-specia...
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 5:20pm:
The people who pay the most get the highest rankings. Google is a business. Capitalism innit



Perhaps. Nothing about being biased one way or the other.

Of course the fossil fuel industry one would think would be able to buy their way to the top of the tree and kill any climate alarmism. They are supposed to have far more money than the poor "climate scientists". Wink


They prolly don't need to since they use their money to buy govts

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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
The fact remains that there were as many left outlets with low scores as right, it may be the wrong number allocated but it isn't bias when it is not related to the politics supported but to the site accuracy.


So if they give a site the wrong ranking it is not a bias; intentional or otherwise? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


No not if they incorrectly rank sites from the left as well besides it still wasn't Google that got your site wrong it was some other company.
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lee wrote Today at 2:46pm:
Dnarever wrote Today at 1:56pm:
The fact remains that there were as many left outlets with low scores as right, it may be the wrong number allocated but it isn't bias when it is not related to the politics supported but to the site accuracy.


So if they give a site the wrong ranking it is not a bias; intentional or otherwise?      


No not if they incorrectly rank sites from the left as well


That still introduces a bias petal. It skews the results. Roll Eyes
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So of you people should check out Googles VERY DETAILED explanation of how sites appear in their engine and in what order. It is a very complicated procedure and so naturally, conspirotards don't/can't understand it so make baseless claims.

Search engine optimisation is for some companies someones fulltime job.

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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
"DailyMail: 50% Drop In Traffic After Google June 2019 Core Update"

https://www.seroundtable.com/dailymail-hit-google-core-update-27690.html

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https://www.seroundtable.com/category/google-updates

You're welcome.


You may like to check this out: Google penalising based on excessive annoying advertising and pop up practices ?

Seems that some of the explanatory examples were Daily Mail practices. Nothing to do with their politics.


https://searchfacts.com/google-algorithm-update-recovery/
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longweekend58 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
So of you people should check out Googles VERY DETAILED explanation of how sites appear in their engine and in what order. It is a very complicated procedure and so naturally, conspirotards don't/can't understand it so make baseless claims.

Search engine optimisation is for some companies someones fulltime job.



What does this even mean? Roll Eyes

And how does that effect bias through inadvertent mislabelling?
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Reply #61 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:14pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:25pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:18pm:
lee wrote Today at 2:46pm:
Dnarever wrote Today at 1:56pm:
The fact remains that there were as many left outlets with low scores as right, it may be the wrong number allocated but it isn't bias when it is not related to the politics supported but to the site accuracy.


So if they give a site the wrong ranking it is not a bias; intentional or otherwise?      


No not if they incorrectly rank sites from the left as well


That still introduces a bias petal. It skews the results. Roll Eyes


You cannot have a search engine without algorithms and you cannot hope to find the perfect algorithm. Your claim is that it is politically skewed - it isn't that is fairly clear.

Yes there is always a bias, a bias towards selecting more relevant and higher quality answers to the search. 

You may be interested to find that there were conservative sites that did better with the change. Huffington post went up 44%
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Reply #62 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:16pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
Seems that some of the explanatory examples were Daily Mail practices. Nothing to do with their politics.


https://searchfacts.com/google-algorithm-update-recovery/


So in reality they are trying to affect other business  business practices? Oh noes. Google has become the moral guardian of the world. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
Seems that some of the explanatory examples were Daily Mail practices. Nothing to do with their politics.


https://searchfacts.com/google-algorithm-update-recovery/


So in reality they are trying to affect other business  business practices? Oh noes. Google has become the moral guardian of the world. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


They are trying to improve their product by delivering better results it has zero to do with content politics.

If google provide their customer base with poor results they will go somewhere else.
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As I did.
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What's the bet that lee and Hammer both use Google?

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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
So of you people should check out Googles VERY DETAILED explanation of how sites appear in their engine and in what order. It is a very complicated procedure and so naturally, conspirotards don't/can't understand it so make baseless claims.

Search engine optimisation is for some companies someones fulltime job.



What does this even mean? Roll Eyes

And how does that effect bias through inadvertent mislabelling?


It means that people are employed full time to get this right - to make sure that their web site will be optimised for search engine requirements.
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As I did.


They will be pleased no doubt.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
As I did.


They will be pleased no doubt.


Hammer uses Netscape.




(The irony is, Mr Hammer is Googling 'Netscape' right this minute)

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And still nobody has come up with an example to support the title.

At first I thought that it may have been true but it now looks very doubtful. The more I see the less political motive I can find.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:40pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
As I did.


They will be pleased no doubt.


Hammer uses Netscape.




(The irony is, Mr Hammer is Googling 'Netscape' right this minute)



I still find Google to be the best search engine and hate some of the others though cross searching is needed on occasion.
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What's the bet that lee and Hammer both use Google?




Wrong DuckDuck Go Smiley
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:36pm:
It means that people are employed full time to get this right -to make sure that their web site will be optimised for search engine requirements.



And people always get things right. Grin Grin Grin Grin

And there you have it to "optimise(d) the search engine requirements". Not what the searcher wants but the search engine owner. Wink


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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
And still nobody has come up with an example to support the title.


Now according to most people sceptics are right wing conservative who follow the dictat of of fossil fuel oil and by extension sceptic websites. now cast back to earlier -

...

Note the highlighted bit.

Just something for you to further ignore? Wink
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Yes there is always a bias, a bias towards selecting more relevant and higher quality answers to the search. 


As decided by the executive. Roll Eyes

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
You may be interested to find that there were conservative sites that did better with the change. Huffington post went up 44%



Huffpo?  You ought to read some of their climate statements. Alarmism on steroids. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Negroid ghetto speak just sounds retarded.


Negroid ghettoes are not a race.

Inferior subspecies, innit.
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
What's the bet that lee and Hammer both use Google?




Wrong DuckDuck Go Smiley


Probably explains the low quality of your posts.
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Probably explains the low quality of your posts.



Says the Google fanboy. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
And still nobody has come up with an example to support the title.


Now according to most people sceptics are right wing conservative who follow the dictat of of fossil fuel oil and by extension sceptic websites. now cast back to earlier -

https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/wuwt-googlebloc...

Note the highlighted bit.

Just something for you to further ignore? Wink


Try a google search on global sea ice - this site https://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/ was the second result after the top adverts.

Looks like more BS to me. They are blocked by google but when you do a google search they are near the top of the list ? Try it yourself if you don't believe me.
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:16pm:
Probably explains the low quality of your posts.



Says the Google fanboy. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


I don't mind Duck Duck Go either.
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I look things up. I just don't like to make it easy for the numpties. I know you feel the same...being a male/female black/white right wing/left wing whatever you are.


Are you saying I make stuff up? Moi?

Please explain.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
Try a google search on global sea ice - this site https://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/ was the second result after the top adverts.



maybe they have changed their algorithm. But then again Maybe not. One summer does not a swallow make petal.Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
Try it yourself if you don't believe me.



Sorry. I don't use Google.

"ALL THE WAYS GOOGLE TRACKS YOU—AND HOW TO STOP IT"

https://www.wired.com/story/google-tracks-you-privacy/

Damn. they track you and they control what your searches return.

They sound like a real white knight. Wink
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Reply #82 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:07pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
I don't mind Duck Duck Go either.


Wow. Does that mean it shows up in the quality of your posts? Wink
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
I don't mind Duck Duck Go either.


Wow. Does that mean it shows up in the quality of your posts? Wink


No but it is your best excuse gone.
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
Try a google search on global sea ice - this site https://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/ was the second result after the top adverts.



maybe they have changed their algorithm. But then again Maybe not. One summer does not a swallow make petal.Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
Try it yourself if you don't believe me.



Sorry. I don't use Google.

"ALL THE WAYS GOOGLE TRACKS YOU—AND HOW TO STOP IT"

https://www.wired.com/story/google-tracks-you-privacy/

Damn. they track you and they control what your searches return.

They sound like a real white knight. Wink


Want to know something funny.

This site comes up second on a google search when it is supposedly blocked but on Duck Duck Go it comes up on page 4 as the 51st result.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:18pm:
This site comes up second on a google search when it is supposedly blocked but on Duck Duck Go it comes up on page 4 as the 51st result.


Wow. It must e all the right wingers here. Wink
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:21pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:18pm:
This site comes up second on a google search when it is supposedly blocked but on Duck Duck Go it comes up on page 4 as the 51st result.


Wow. It must e all the right wingers here. Wink


Your favoured search engine is rating your favored environment site much lower than google do and the fact that the site come up 2nd is an indication that it is not blocked by google at all.

Quote:
It must
b
e all the right wingers here
"b"
is an assumption.

Yes there is a particularly ugly plague of right wingers here.
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Still nothing to back up the title.

In fact:

Every claim when tested has not only failed to support the claim but effectively proven it to be untrue.

Claims made have been shown to be technically reasonable and not intentionally biased.

Yes the La La land extreme sites of the right and left have been caught in the fake and unreliable news filters and graded lower. Hardly an unreasonable result.
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The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.
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The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Quote:
Trump: Google Should be Sued For Manipulating 2016 Election in Favor of Crooked Hillary

President Trump on Monday morning said Google should be sued for manipulating millions of votes in Hillary Clinton’s favor during the 2016 election.

According to reports, Donald Trump received approximately 63 million votes and Crooked Hillary received nearly 66 million votes (illegal aliens included).

Trump however campaigned to win which is why he received 304 electoral votes vs. Hillary’s 227 EC votes.

Even with Google, the media, the DNC and every powerful person in DC on her side, Hillary Clinton still lost the 2016 election (she’s still blaming the Russians  Roll Eyes ).

Trump is furious and called for Google (Hillary’s biggest donor in 2016) to be sued.

“Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought!” Trump said in a tweet.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1163478770587721729?ref_src=twsrc%5Et...
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According to the newly released Senate report, Dr. Robert Epstein, a psychologist, author and professor, Google manipulated at least 2.6 million — and upwards of 10+ million votes in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Dr. Epstein, an admitted liberal and very vociferous supporter of Hillary Clinton, said that Google and other tech billionaires will ramp up in 2020 and make sure all hands are on deck to stop Trump from winning the election.

Watch Dr. Epstein explain how Google and Zuckerberg can manipulate MILLIONS of voters in favor of Democrats:


Watch - This is how Google did it which I have already explained to you some weeks ago



Google was the Number one Donor to the Hillary Clinton Campaign.
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Watch Google Cry after the election.

"We Lost" - Wait, what? - is google part of the Democrat Party?  Undecided

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Email shows Google tried to help elect Clinton

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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:13am:
Still nothing to back up the title.

In fact:

Every claim when tested has not only failed to support the claim but effectively proven it to be untrue.

Claims made have been shown to be technically reasonable and not intentionally biased.

Yes the La La land extreme sites of the right and left have been caught in the fake and unreliable news filters and graded lower. Hardly an unreasonable result.


One claim that is, or at least was true when I tested it about 4 months ago was how YouTube was very easily leading people to the alt-right via videos aimed at children.

I've still got the screenshots.  I started with a clean install of Windows 10 using a mobile hotspot (fresh sim before it was being sent out to a site as a backup 4G connection) in a newly installed Chrome window without any Google account.

I started on a PUBG video, enabled auto play, and just let it go.

This is what happened,

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

I know that YouTube came under fire for this so I assume that some changes have been made, but it hardly seems like Google was censoring conservatives when they're jamming the alt-right down kids throats when they're trying to watch gameplay videos on auto-play.

From PUBG to Global Warming conspiracy theories in like 7 or 8 video recommendations and then a truck load of pro-Trump related videos...
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longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?
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Reply #96 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:38am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?



are you drunk? high?  having a breakdown?
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Your favoured search engine is rating your favored environment site much lower than google do and the fact that the site come up 2nd is an indication that it is not blocked by google at all.



But I never said it was blocked. And there is obviously a bias. Now which one or is it both?  Wink

Which favoured environment site? Notrickszone, wattsupwiththat, realclimate?  I have used them and others.
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Claims made have been shown to be technically reasonable and not intentionally biased.



Who said intentionally biased? I actually said intentional or otherwise. And being technically reasonable doesn't necessarily make it reasonable.Wink
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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?


We're allowed to complain, Homo.

We're from Western Sydney, no?
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longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?



are you drunk? high?  having a breakdown?


Homo has to live next door to Pakis, Longy. He had a Boong at his school.

These things do test one's mettle, so to speak.

I think Homo's very brave, no?
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You mean West Asia, surely.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?



are you drunk? high?  having a breakdown?


Homo has to live next door to Pakis, Longy. He had a Boong at his school.

These things do test one's mettle, so to speak.

I think Homo's very brave, no?


I never toured Nam. Sure, it was a Kontiki Tour. Still, more than I ever did.
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You mean West Asia, surely.


Shurely shome mishtake.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:50pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?



are you drunk? high?  having a breakdown?


Homo has to live next door to Pakis, Longy. He had a Boong at his school.

These things do test one's mettle, so to speak.

I think Homo's very brave, no?


I never toured Nam. Sure, it was a Kontiki Tour. Still, more than I ever did.


There you go, you see?

More things to complain about, Homo. So unfair.
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I know. Why can't we all be veterens. Actually you can on the net, innit?
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I know. Why can't we all be veterens. Actually you can on the net, innit?


No, son, we can't.

A Pakistani Bastard, an Unflushable Turd, a Dirty Little Invert, sure.

But not a Kunt like Yours Truly.

Innit.
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According to the newly released Senate report, Dr. Robert Epstein, a psychologist, author and professor, Google manipulated at least 2.6 million — and upwards of 10+ million votes in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Dr. Epstein, an admitted liberal and very vociferous supporter of Hillary Clinton, said that Google and other tech billionaires will ramp up in 2020 and make sure all hands are on deck to stop Trump from winning the election.

Watch Dr. Epstein explain how Google and Zuckerberg can manipulate MILLIONS of voters in favor of Democrats:


Watch - This is how Google did it which I have already explained to you some weeks ago



Google was the Number one Donor to the Hillary Clinton Campaign.


You know that Epstein's results were based on a projection from sample of 90 people and others who worked on this disagree with him. Also he seems to have had a long term issue with Google. Most of what he said was what Google could do not what they did do.

In an interview, Mr. Epstein took issue with Mr. Trump’s characterization of his work.


Epstein - on Trump.

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“I’ve never said Google manipulated the 2016 elections,” he said. “The range of numbers he listed in the tweet is also incorrect.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/us/politics/google-votes-election-trump.html



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Panagiotis Metaxas, a computer science professor at Wellesley College, emphasized that the white paper showed a possibility — “what such an influence could have been if Google was manipulating its electoral search results” — not a conclusive fact.

“I and other researchers who have been auditing search results for years know that this did not happen,” Mr. Metaxas said.


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Reply #108 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:22pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?


We're allowed to complain, Homo.

We're from Western Sydney, no?


Now that you have demonstrated the suffering of the west feel free to go right ahead and complain about anything you like..
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lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 1:27pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:13am:
Claims made have been shown to be technically reasonable and not intentionally biased.



Who said intentionally biased? I actually said intentional or otherwise. And being technically reasonable doesn't necessarily make it reasonable.Wink


When it is an automated system it is the best you are going to get. The results are based on the results of algorithms.

No there are not 12,000 grandmothers in someones basement typing out search results.
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lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:02am:
Your favoured search engine is rating your favored environment site much lower than google do and the fact that the site come up 2nd is an indication that it is not blocked by google at all.


But I never said it was blocked. And there is obviously a bias. Now which one or is it both?  Wink

Which favoured environment site? Notrickszone, wattsupwiththat, realclimate?  I have used them and others.


But I never said it was blocked.


No you never say anything but you posted an article which said that it was blocked. It isn't. (I am guessing that you read some of the articles that you post).

Which favoured environment site

The one that your post was about  the one that claimed to be blocked the one which is treated well by Googles algorithms and is rated very low by Duck Duck Go.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
When it is an automated system it is the best you are going to get. The results are based on the results of algorithms.


yes. known only to the company. Wink.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
No there are not 12,000 grandmothers in someones basement typing out search results.


I am glad to hear it. That would result in opinions from over 80 years ago. They may have had the cooling scare of the 70's as top of the pops. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
No you never say anything but you posted an article which said that it was blocked. It isn't. (I am guessing that you read some of the articles that you post).


Actually the note about being blocked was on the screen capture of Google's web page. It was highlighted to show it. Of course things may have changed since then. Or not. Wink

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
The one that your post was about  the one that claimed to be blocked the one which is treated well by Googles algorithms and is rated very low by Duck Duck Go.


And how exactly did you work out it was THE favourite? Or was it just a stab in the dark that missed the intended target. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
No you never say anything but you posted an article which said that it was blocked. It isn't. (I am guessing that you read some of the articles that you post).


Actually the note about being blocked was on the screen capture of Google's web page. It was highlighted to show it. Of course things may have changed since then. Or not. Wink

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
The one that your post was about  the one that claimed to be blocked the one which is treated well by Googles algorithms and is rated very low by Duck Duck Go.


And how exactly did you work out it was THE favourite? Or was it just a stab in the dark that missed the intended target. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Quote:
Actually the note about being blocked was on the screen capture of Google's web page.


It was there because of the use of the F Word in the title. It wasn't blocking the article as you can see the article was displayed, it was asking the user if they wanted to block it. The word had triggered a caution response and asker the user to make the decision if they found it confronting or an undesirable result.

The use of the F word caused the problem it wasn't a political anti right response, the use of that word would have triggered for Right, Left or a breakfast cereal page.

Once again clearly not an anti right censor.
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Reply #114 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:50pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:45pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
No you never say anything but you posted an article which said that it was blocked. It isn't. (I am guessing that you read some of the articles that you post).


Actually the note about being blocked was on the screen capture of Google's web page. It was highlighted to show it. Of course things may have changed since then. Or not. Wink

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
The one that your post was about  the one that claimed to be blocked the one which is treated well by Googles algorithms and is rated very low by Duck Duck Go.


And how exactly did you work out it was THE favourite? Or was it just a stab in the dark that missed the intended target. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Quote:
And how exactly did you work out it was THE favourite?


As usual step right past the meat of the topic to be pedantic about the usage of a word.

Most people stay away from topics where they have had their pants pulled down.
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Reply #115 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:59pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
When it is an automated system it is the best you are going to get. The results are based on the results of algorithms.


yes. known only to the company. Wink.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
No there are not 12,000 grandmothers in someones basement typing out search results.


I am glad to hear it. That would result in opinions from over 80 years ago. They may have had the cooling scare of the 70's as top of the pops. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Quote:
They may have had the cooling scare of the 70's as top of the pops.


There is a lot said about this. I was taught about the next ice age being due in the 1960's and it is still true today, not sure what changed in the 70's. But the premise of an upcoming ice age was just that it was due looking at the past cycles. The issue is that it was based on the global change timeline. i.e. it is expected to occur somewhere over the next few million years. Anyway that was the school taught theory from the 1960's. Suspect that it still holds true in theory.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:22pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?


We're allowed to complain, Homo.

We're from Western Sydney, no?


Now that you have demonstrated the suffering of the west feel free to go right ahead and complain about anything you like..


Thanks for that. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.

We've suffered enough, okay?
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Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:22pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:23am:
The problem with western academics
They  complain a lot for one of the most pampered groups in the world. Time for a purge.



a very soviet term.

Who is surprised that you dont favour free expression of speech and ideas?


One earns the right to complain through suffering. How has Al Gore suffered?


We're allowed to complain, Homo.

We're from Western Sydney, no?


Now that you have demonstrated the suffering of the west feel free to go right ahead and complain about anything you like..


Thanks for that. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.

We've suffered enough, okay?


Yes just this morning I found that Islam had left my breakfast cereal unsealed in an obvious terrorist attack. It's getting worse by the day.
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Reply #118 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 9:35am
 
Marx's greatest contribution is 'the personal is political'. One isnt what one speaks. One isn't what one believes. One is how one lives. Al Bore,  Bob Geldof, Gillian Triggs, George Clooney,  Anderson Cooper , Peter Fitzsimons, Cate Blandchick, Gough Whitlam, Michael Moore, Waleed Aly. Not activists. Not champions of the people. Just celebrity money hoarders. Like Trump. Just without the sense of humour.
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:59pm:
There is a lot said about this. I was taught about the next ice age being due in the 1960's and it is still true today, not sure what changed in the 70's. But the premise of an upcoming ice age was just that it was due looking at the past cycles. The issue is that it was based on the global change timeline. i.e. it is expected to occur somewhere over the next few million years. Anyway that was the school taught theory from the 1960's. Suspect that it still holds true in theory.



The 70's cooling scare was predicated on CO2 petal. Not on a timeline.

They now like to cite it as a myth.

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

Peterson, Connolley and Fleck

Found only 44 papers apparently.

https://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-1/

Finds over 285 Papers.

It would seem that Peterson, Connolley and Fleck (PCF-08) was not very well done.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:50pm:
As usual step right past the meat of the topic to be pedantic about the usage of a word.


Weren't you ever taught that words have meanings? Wink
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:46pm:
It was there because of the use of the F Word in the title. It wasn't blocking the article as you can see the article was displayed, it was asking the user if they wanted to block it. The word had triggered a caution response and asker the user to make the decision if they found it confronting or an undesirable result.


The use of the "F word" doesn't even cite which "F word".  Fool? Fallacy? Frog?

Fancy that. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:46pm:
It was there because of the use of the F Word in the title. It wasn't blocking the article as you can see the article was displayed, it was asking the user if they wanted to block it. The word had triggered a caution response and asker the user to make the decision if they found it confronting or an undesirable result.


The use of the "F word" doesn't even cite which "F word".  Fool? Fallacy? Frog?

Fancy that. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It was about you and it is followed by wit.
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lee wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 12:59pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:46pm:
It was there because of the use of the F Word in the title. It wasn't blocking the article as you can see the article was displayed, it was asking the user if they wanted to block it. The word had triggered a caution response and asker the user to make the decision if they found it confronting or an undesirable result.


The use of the "F word" doesn't even cite which "F word".  Fool? Fallacy? Frog?

Fancy that. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It was about you and it is followed by wit.


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lee wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 12:55pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:59pm:
There is a lot said about this. I was taught about the next ice age being due in the 1960's and it is still true today, not sure what changed in the 70's. But the premise of an upcoming ice age was just that it was due looking at the past cycles. The issue is that it was based on the global change timeline. i.e. it is expected to occur somewhere over the next few million years. Anyway that was the school taught theory from the 1960's. Suspect that it still holds true in theory.



The 70's cooling scare was predicated on CO2 petal. Not on a timeline.

They now like to cite it as a myth.

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

Peterson, Connolley and Fleck

Found only 44 papers apparently.

https://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-1/

Finds over 285 Papers.

It would seem that Peterson, Connolley and Fleck (PCF-08) was not very well done.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:50pm:
As usual step right past the meat of the topic to be pedantic about the usage of a word.


Weren't you ever taught that words have meanings? Wink


Weren't you ever taught that words have meanings?


Yes I believe that was covered fairly early in the education process but I do not remember which year.

However if you read a book I am not so sure that focusing on only one word is very helpful.
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Brilliantly explained - I was going to drop one of these a few months ago but never got around to it - Thanks!!
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SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 8:05am:
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According to the newly released Senate report, Dr. Robert Epstein, a psychologist, author and professor, Google manipulated at least 2.6 million — and upwards of 10+ million votes in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Dr. Epstein, an admitted liberal and very vociferous supporter of Hillary Clinton, said that Google and other tech billionaires will ramp up in 2020 and make sure all hands are on deck to stop Trump from winning the election.

Watch Dr. Epstein explain how Google and Zuckerberg can manipulate MILLIONS of voters in favor of Democrats:


Watch - This is how Google did it which I have already explained to you some weeks ago



Google was the Number one Donor to the Hillary Clinton Campaign.


You know that Epstein's results were based on a projection from sample of 90 people


another Liberal Lie

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.@HillaryClinton, whom I have strongly supported for many years, told blatant lies about me today. As a result, I have been subjected to widespread condemnation by mainstream media. I'm going to fight this. Stay tuned tomorrow for my first-ever twitter storm.


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Google and deep state have already tried to take out Dr Epstein.

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San Diego, CA.  Prominent research psychologist and author Dr. Robert Epstein, age 60, was killed yesterday afternoon by a Google Street View vehicle while crossing Front Street in San Diego, where he has long resided.  Although foul play is not suspected, Epstein’s friends are calling the accident “ironic.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-robert-epstein/google-critic-killedin-i_b_5351...
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However if you read a book I am not so sure that focusing on only one word is very helpful.



It is to understand context petal. Wink

Consider"  CO2 is the driver of climate change.

vs

CO2 is a driver of climate change.
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Read Dr Epstein's Tweets - very enlightening

https://twitter.com/DrREpstein
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lee wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:16pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 7:54pm:
However if you read a book I am not so sure that focusing on only one word is very helpful.



It is to understand context petal. Wink

Consider"  CO2 is the driver of climate change.

vs

CO2 is a driver of climate change.


You should take your own advice - you routinely pick a word and ignore the context.
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SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:17pm:
Read Dr Epstein's Tweets - very enlightening

https://twitter.com/DrREpstein


Epstein said that they could not that they did.

Besides do you think it is a problem if they do ?

The conservatives have done this for decades and nobody seems to care ? News LTD - Fox news etc have been influencing election results for many years but that isn't a problem ?
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Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:25pm:
You should take your own advice - you routinely pick a word and ignore the context.


Numerous quotes to show this routine ignoring of context needed. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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OH, BUT ITS OK FOR THE TV MEDIA TO 'GROOM' THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE THEM VOTE IN HILLARY?
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They stopped all merchandising to such things as the Star Wars movie where the Lead Role was a Female. All of the posters and other advertising did not have her on them. Even the 'toys' didn't have her in great amounts.
Besides there being a full doco and other reports on this.
The TV Media MANIPULATED all ART manifestations that depict women in a lead or powerful role. While on Television, promoted many 'Political' lead role females.
Like the movie 'Focus' explained (gave away the 'hint' if you can see it in the movie  Wink) - it's all about 'Grooming' the Public to make that 'bet'. The TV Media tried to manipulate the USA Public into voting for Hillary.

Sadly for her (and the Media) - Donald Trumps preference for the Internet as his 'weapon of choice' showed it was the best choice for America.

It's a shift of Power as we witness the 1st President to put the 'People' in Power too, beyond the control of the TV Media - finally!



[edit] btw - 'Rey' is the 'Evil' one of the Dark Side. Not one of the best kept secrets in Movie world atm.  Roll Eyes
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #134 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 6:16am
 
If Trump is for the people why is he always lying to them? Why do his signature policies not deliver what he says they will?
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Reply #135 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 8:08am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:13pm:
Google and deep state have already tried to take out Dr Epstein.

Quote:
San Diego, CA.  Prominent research psychologist and author Dr. Robert Epstein, age 60, was killed yesterday afternoon by a Google Street View vehicle while crossing Front Street in San Diego, where he has long resided.  Although foul play is not suspected, Epstein’s friends are calling the accident “ironic.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-robert-epstein/google-critic-killedin-i_b_5351...


Then we see the complaints that Huff and co are rated by google as unreliable sources.
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Reply #136 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 8:09am
 
lee wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:49pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:25pm:
You should take your own advice - you routinely pick a word and ignore the context.


Numerous quotes to show this routine ignoring of context needed. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You provide this evidence daily. Every time you pick out a word or phrase but ignore the whole of the discussion and or the context. You cannot step past a slight embellishment and talk about the guts of the matter the embellishment become the major point.

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Reply #137 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 8:57am
 
And still nothing to make the case supporting the title has stood up to scrutiny.
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Reply #138 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 11:53am
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 8:09am:
You provide this evidence daily. Every time you pick out a word or phrase but ignore the whole of the discussion and or the context. You cannot step past a slight embellishment and talk about the guts of the matter the embellishment become the major point.



Poor petal. No quotes = no evidence.

Call back when you have some.
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