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Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection
Reply #45 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:46pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 1:51am:

Coax is used with HFC (Hybrid Fibre/Coaxial) which is mainly for people with Telstra cable. A friend of mine had Telstra cable for 15 years which he used for Internet and Foxtel pay TV until he (and his entire suburb which was wired with coax 30 years ago) was changed to NBN HFC recently.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/hybrid-fibre-coaxial-explained...

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An nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) connection is used in circumstances where the existing ‘pay TV’ or cable network can be used to make the final part of the nbn™ access network connection. In this circumstance an HFC line will be run from the nearest available fibre node, to your premises.

Places with NBN FTTN have to use the existing copper phone lines from the nodes to the premises, they can replace their internal wiring with new phone cable or ethernet cable if they want to - and it is recommended to do so if the wiring is old or has multiple sockets in different rooms, etc.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-node-explained-ft...

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An nbn™ Fibre to the Node (FTTN) connection is utilised where the existing copper phone and internet network from a nearby fibre node is used to make the final part of the connection to the nbn™ access network.

The fibre node is likely to take the form of a street cabinet. Each street cabinet will allow the nbn™ access network signal to travel over a fibre optic line from the exchange, to the cabinet, and connect with the existing copper network to reach your premises.

No, incorrect. You are confused as to differrent types of coax. and no, they arent using copper in your house. Its not necassary.

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Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection
Reply #46 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 10:17pm

rhino wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:46pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 1:51am:

Coax is used with HFC (Hybrid Fibre/Coaxial) which is mainly for people with Telstra cable. A friend of mine had Telstra cable for 15 years which he used for Internet and Foxtel pay TV until he (and his entire suburb which was wired with coax 30 years ago) was changed to NBN HFC recently.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/hybrid-fibre-coaxial-explained...

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An nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) connection is used in circumstances where the existing ‘pay TV’ or cable network can be used to make the final part of the nbn™ access network connection. In this circumstance an HFC line will be run from the nearest available fibre node, to your premises.

Places with NBN FTTN have to use the existing copper phone lines from the nodes to the premises, they can replace their internal wiring with new phone cable or ethernet cable if they want to - and it is recommended to do so if the wiring is old or has multiple sockets in different rooms, etc.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-node-explained-ft...

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An nbn™ Fibre to the Node (FTTN) connection is utilised where the existing copper phone and internet network from a nearby fibre node is used to make the final part of the connection to the nbn™ access network.

The fibre node is likely to take the form of a street cabinet. Each street cabinet will allow the nbn™ access network signal to travel over a fibre optic line from the exchange, to the cabinet, and connect with the existing copper network to reach your premises.

No, incorrect. You are confused as to differrent types of coax. and no, they arent using copper in your house. Its not necassary.

I guessing Carl and I are talking/thinking about different coax to what you are. It seems both of us were thinking HFC. The last leg of the NBN is still copper into your home.

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Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection
Reply #47 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 10:36pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:46pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 1:51am:

Coax is used with HFC (Hybrid Fibre/Coaxial) which is mainly for people with Telstra cable. A friend of mine had Telstra cable for 15 years which he used for Internet and Foxtel pay TV until he (and his entire suburb which was wired with coax 30 years ago) was changed to NBN HFC recently.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/hybrid-fibre-coaxial-explained...

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An nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) connection is used in circumstances where the existing ‘pay TV’ or cable network can be used to make the final part of the nbn™ access network connection. In this circumstance an HFC line will be run from the nearest available fibre node, to your premises.

Places with NBN FTTN have to use the existing copper phone lines from the nodes to the premises, they can replace their internal wiring with new phone cable or ethernet cable if they want to - and it is recommended to do so if the wiring is old or has multiple sockets in different rooms, etc.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-node-explained-ft...

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An nbn™ Fibre to the Node (FTTN) connection is utilised where the existing copper phone and internet network from a nearby fibre node is used to make the final part of the connection to the nbn™ access network.

The fibre node is likely to take the form of a street cabinet. Each street cabinet will allow the nbn™ access network signal to travel over a fibre optic line from the exchange, to the cabinet, and connect with the existing copper network to reach your premises.

No, incorrect. You are confused as to differrent types of coax. and no, they arent using copper in your house. Its not necassary.

I guessing Carl and I are talking/thinking about different coax to what you are. It seems both of us were thinking HFC. The last leg of the NBN is still copper into your home.

Coax is copper, so yes. But not POTS copper.

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Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection
Reply #48 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 11:20pm

rhino wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 10:36pm:

Setanta wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:46pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 1:51am:

Coax is used with HFC (Hybrid Fibre/Coaxial) which is mainly for people with Telstra cable. A friend of mine had Telstra cable for 15 years which he used for Internet and Foxtel pay TV until he (and his entire suburb which was wired with coax 30 years ago) was changed to NBN HFC recently.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/hybrid-fibre-coaxial-explained...

Quote:

An nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) connection is used in circumstances where the existing ‘pay TV’ or cable network can be used to make the final part of the nbn™ access network connection. In this circumstance an HFC line will be run from the nearest available fibre node, to your premises.

Places with NBN FTTN have to use the existing copper phone lines from the nodes to the premises, they can replace their internal wiring with new phone cable or ethernet cable if they want to - and it is recommended to do so if the wiring is old or has multiple sockets in different rooms, etc.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-node-explained-ft...

Quote:

An nbn™ Fibre to the Node (FTTN) connection is utilised where the existing copper phone and internet network from a nearby fibre node is used to make the final part of the connection to the nbn™ access network.

The fibre node is likely to take the form of a street cabinet. Each street cabinet will allow the nbn™ access network signal to travel over a fibre optic line from the exchange, to the cabinet, and connect with the existing copper network to reach your premises.

No, incorrect. You are confused as to differrent types of coax. and no, they arent using copper in your house. Its not necassary.

I guessing Carl and I are talking/thinking about different coax to what you are. It seems both of us were thinking HFC. The last leg of the NBN is still copper into your home.

Coax is copper, so yes. But not POTS copper.

It's certainly the copper we have now(no nbn here yet) that will be the last leg. That is the whole point of saving money running fibre into the home. If they were to replace that it may as well be with fibre. We will get fibre to the curb, the rest into our home will be the old telephone(ptsn) copper. Lucky for us we don't get nodes, it will be vdsl2 from the curb over the existing copper line which is hopefully not that bad. I believe the hardware being installed is g.fast running in vdls2 mode so it's upgradeable.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8397 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #49 - Aug 17^th, 2019 at 9:35pm Here's an interesting read about what the Liberals have done to the NBN: https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/ Where's juliar today, by the way?
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Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection
Reply #50 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:50am

Carl D wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Here's an interesting read about what the Liberals have done to the NBN:

https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/

Where's juliar today, by the way? Wink

Didn't you know Liar goes into weekend detention? Trying to sort out it's mental problems. Grin

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Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection
Reply #51 - Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:19am

Carl D wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Here's an interesting read about what the Liberals have done to the NBN:

https://theqlder.com/2019/05/11/how-the-liberals-sabotaged-the-nbn/

Where's juliar today, by the way? Wink

found this bit to be quite apt

To this end, he relied on an ally in government. A man with no mind, with no ideas of his own. One might almost say a man with no brain. No, not Baldrick. Tony Abbott.
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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