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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #16 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 10:49pm nothing wrong with my NBN. works great.
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Reply #17 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 10:56pm

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 10:49pm:

nothing wrong with my NBN. works great.

That's not a get out of gaol free card for the NBN. Works fine for me is not a valid response when it doesn't for many. In fact I have to go take a look at someones connection to the NBN in the next few days and deal with their probs.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #18 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:08pm Theres also less to go wrong because NBN doesnt use any telephone wires. Cable into the home then distribute it from there. I dont know anyone with NBN issues.
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Reply #19 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:20pm

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:08pm:

Theres also less to go wrong because NBN doesnt use any telephone wires. Cable into the home then distribute it from there. I dont know anyone with NBN issues.

I agree it should be no harder than moving from adsl to vdsl and voip for most people, that's not always the case unfortunately. BUT, just because some or even most have no probs doesn't mean there are no probs.

I'm going to move my voice number to voip before the changeover, I have the hardware and can't use an ISP/RSP provided router as set up by the ISP/RSP. My router will need to be set up in bridged mode(pass through). Will this cause probs? Maybe, but I can fix/sort it. Not every NBN connection is a standard home connection.

We will still have copper into the premises, the only thing that is really changed is fibre down the road. Instead of ADSL(2+) we will have VDSL2, a faster DSL protocol. Instead of the dslam being in the exchange, it will be in a "node" or in the ground in FTTC. In effect it's just moving the dslam closer to your home.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #20 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:38pm Coaxial is copper, plenty of bandwidth.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39514 Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #21 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:41pm rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 10:49pm: nothing wrong with my NBN. works great. Mines fine.
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Reply #22 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:48pm

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:38pm:

Coaxial is copper, plenty of bandwidth.

Most of the NBN is not coax and coax has it's problems and is being replaced by newer tech as needs be. Coax is a very small part of the NBN, it's used because it's there.

I believe coax can do 100 Mbs, the hardware being installed is g.fast protocol set to v.fast, that's what is being used in FTC and FTTN, g.fast but set in the lower speed protocol of v.fast(VDSL2), which means a flick of the switch could give up to 1 Gbs over the last 100m of copper(FTTC). Coax can never do that. And full fibre can do 10Gbs.

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Reply #23 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:03am

Setanta wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:48pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:38pm:

Coaxial is copper, plenty of bandwidth.

Most of the NBN is not coax and coax has it's problems and is being replaced by newer tech as needs be. Coax is a very small part of the NBN, it's used because it's there.

I believe coax can do 100 Mbs, the hardware being installed is g.fast protocol set to v.fast, that's what is being used in FTC and FTTN, g.fast but set in the lower speed protocol of v.fast(VDSL2), which means a flick of the switch could give up to 1 Gbs over the last 100m of copper(FTTC). Coax can never do that. And full fibre can do 10Gbs.

Kooder, shooder, and wooder.

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Reply #24 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:05am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:03am:

Setanta wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:48pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:38pm:

Coaxial is copper, plenty of bandwidth.

Most of the NBN is not coax and coax has it's problems and is being replaced by newer tech as needs be. Coax is a very small part of the NBN, it's used because it's there.

I believe coax can do 100 Mbs, the hardware being installed is g.fast protocol set to v.fast, that's what is being used in FTC and FTTN, g.fast but set in the lower speed protocol of v.fast(VDSL2), which means a flick of the switch could give up to 1 Gbs over the last 100m of copper(FTTC). Coax can never do that. And full fibre can do 10Gbs.

Kooder, shooder, and wooder.

Pretty much as far as the NBN is concerned. Liberals completed by 2016, cheaper and quicker. Now 2019 and still waiting for substandard services.

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Reply #25 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:08am

Setanta wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:05am:

Pretty much as far as the NBN is concerned. Liberals completed by 2016, cheaper and quicker. Now 2019 and still waiting.

Is Setanta a paid servant of the Liberal government?

There are so many complaints about the NBN. Where there's smoke there's fire.

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Reply #26 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:11am

Setanta wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:48pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2019 at 11:38pm:

Coaxial is copper, plenty of bandwidth.

Most of the NBN is not coax and coax has it's problems and is being replaced by newer tech as needs be. Coax is a very small part of the NBN, it's used because it's there.

I believe coax can do 100 Mbs, the hardware being installed is g.fast protocol set to v.fast, that's what is being used in FTC and FTTN, g.fast but set in the lower speed protocol of v.fast(VDSL2), which means a flick of the switch could give up to 1 Gbs over the last 100m of copper(FTTC). Coax can never do that. And full fibre can do 10Gbs.

Thats Rg6 you are talking about. Coax from the curb to the home is fine and has plenty of bandwidth.

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Reply #27 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:11am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:08am:

Setanta wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:05am:

Pretty much as far as the NBN is concerned. Liberals completed by 2016, cheaper and quicker. Now 2019 and still waiting.

Is Setanta a paid servant of the Liberal government?

There are so many complaints about the NBN. Where there's smoke there's fire.

I doubt it LTYC. I'm a proponent of the do it once and do it right school the NBN was conceived on. The one devised by the tech people on a beer coaster.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39514 Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #28 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:11am My nbns fine. Not one problem.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 15914 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: NBN Customers Facing Higher Prices Poor Connection Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:15am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:11am: My nbns fine. Not one problem. Let's all give Sprint a hand! The argument that you don't have a problem does not mean there are no problems is flaccid.
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