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Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm
 
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:58pm
 
More here: Morrison moves to eliminate cash on instructions from IMF

Of course, his mates who have already shifted their cash offshore to the Cayman Islands will be out of reach.
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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:19pm
 
Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
More here: Morrison moves to eliminate cash on instructions from IMF

Of course, his mates who have already shifted their cash offshore to the Cayman Islands will be out of reach.


Funny enough the conspiracy theorists have been warning about this for years

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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:21pm
 
anything over $10 gets reported to the tax office now already.
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Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 6:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
anything over $10 gets reported to the tax office now already.

Lol, no it doesnt you maroon.
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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 6:28pm
 

Oh, I thought this was gonna be a good news story.

i.e. a limit on this sort of cash:


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Reply #6 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 6:34pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 6:28pm:
Oh, I thought this was gonna be a good news story.

i.e. a limit on this sort of cash:


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/brSSfl1STLE/maxresdefault.jpg

That particular Senator makes a sound similar to a fell beast (from LoTR).
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Reply #7 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 6:41pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
anything over $10 gets reported to the tax office now already.

Lol, no it doesnt you maroon.



$10k cash, yes it does.



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Under current Federal legislation, all Australian banks are required to report cash transactions of $10,000 or more (or foreign equivalent), including details of the relevant account holders, to the regulator, the Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre (AUSTRAC).


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Reply #8 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:13pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

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It says cash NOT electronic.

Buy some spectacles.
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Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

Spot



It says cash NOT electronic.

Buy some spectacles.


Apologise to Spot, Bobby.

Here's a tip, from someone who reads legislation for a living: ALWAYS read the 'Definitions' clause in an Act FIRST.

From the Act in question:

"cash means either or both of the following:
"8 (a) digital currency;
"9 (b) physical currency."


https://www.treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Exposure%20draft%20-%20C...
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Reply #10 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

Spot



It says cash NOT electronic.

Buy some spectacles.


Apologise to Spot, Bobby.

Here's a tip, from someone who reads legislation for a living: ALWAYS read the 'Definitions' clause in an Act FIRST.

From the Act in question:

"cash means either or both of the following:
"8 (a) digital currency;
"9 (b) physical currency."


https://www.treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Exposure%20draft%20-%20C...




Yes - that says:
6Definitions
5In this Act
:6cashmeans either or both of the following:
7(a)digital currency;8(b)physical currency



Spot - my apologies - I'm the one who needs new spectacles.

How does that work?

How could you buy a car or a house or anything worth more than $10K
I don't understand it.
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Reply #11 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:34pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

Spot



It says cash NOT electronic.

Buy some spectacles.


Apologise to Spot, Bobby.

Here's a tip, from someone who reads legislation for a living: ALWAYS read the 'Definitions' clause in an Act FIRST.

From the Act in question:

"cash means either or both of the following:
"8 (a) digital currency;
"9 (b) physical currency."


https://www.treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Exposure%20draft%20-%20C...




Yes - that says:
6Definitions
5In this Act
:6cashmeans either or both of the following:
7(a)digital currency;8(b)physical currency



Spot - my apologies - I'm the one who needs new spectacles.

How does that work?

How could you buy a car or a house or anything worth more than $10K
I don't understand it.


Hang on, I think "digital currency" means things like Bitcoin.

Not the same as "electronic payment".

"In the 2018-19 Budget, the Government announced it would introduce an economy-wide cash payment limit of $10,000 for payments made or accepted by businesses for goods and services.

"Transactions equal to, or in excess of this amount would need to be made using the electronic payment system or by cheque."


Makes sense now.
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Reply #12 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:38pm
 
It seems there's no end to the Lib's and Lab's quest to sacrifice the privacy of the law abiding majority because of the criminal acts of a small minority
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Reply #13 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:40pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
It seems there's no end to the Lib's and Lab's quest to sacrifice the privacy of the law abiding majority because of the criminal acts of a small minority


What's wrong with using electronic payment or a cheque?

The only people opposed to this would be those who have something to hide.

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Reply #14 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:41pm
 
Who knows Greggy.
Why the hell do they need to keep making new laws every day?
How many laws are there?
It must run into the millions by now.
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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Who knows Greggy.
Why the hell do they need to keep making new laws every day?
How many laws are there?
It must run into the millions by now.


I don't have a problem with this, really.

I recently bought a guitar for $12,000, and I paid cash (all $100 bills).

When I handed over the money, the guy in the shop was very suspicious (he didn't know me, so he had no idea where I got the money from).

In the future, I'll just need to put the cash in the bank first and then pay by EFTPOS.

It's safer (walking around with $12,000 in your wallet is pretty stupid), and gives me an electronic record for insurance purposes too.




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Reply #16 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:50pm
 
So we're supposed to comment on a Bill that has this in it:
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Part 2—Offences
Division 1—Offences in relation to cash payments
9 Simplified outline of this Division
10 Offence—Cash payments in excess of cash payment limit
11 Offence—Cash payments recklessly in excess of cash payment
Division 2—[To be inserted]

What nasties have they got planned in "to be inserted"?
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Reply #17 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Who knows Greggy.
Why the hell do they need to keep making new laws every day?
How many laws are there?
It must run into the millions by now.


I don't have a problem with this, really.

I recently bought a guitar for $12,000, and I paid cash (all $100 bills).

When I handed over the money, the guy in the shop was very suspicious (he didn't know me, so he had no idea where I got the money from).

In the future, I'll just need to put the cash in the bank first and then pay by EFTPOS.

It's safer (walking around with $12,000 in your wallet is pretty stupid), and gives me an electronic record for insurance purposes too.




You must play like Jimmy page to spend that much on a guitar.
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Reply #18 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Who knows Greggy.
Why the hell do they need to keep making new laws every day?
How many laws are there?
It must run into the millions by now.


I don't have a problem with this, really.

I recently bought a guitar for $12,000, and I paid cash (all $100 bills).

When I handed over the money, the guy in the shop was very suspicious (he didn't know me, so he had no idea where I got the money from).

In the future, I'll just need to put the cash in the bank first and then pay by EFTPOS.

It's safer (walking around with $12,000 in your wallet is pretty stupid), and gives me an electronic record for insurance purposes too.




You must play like Jimmy page to spend that much on a guitar.


No.

I buy expensive guitars and pretend that I can't play like Jimmy (or Jeff).

This is my next purchase:

http://www.fendercustomshop.com/series/artist/jimmy-page-dragon-tele/



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Reply #19 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Who knows Greggy.
Why the hell do they need to keep making new laws every day?
How many laws are there?
It must run into the millions by now.


I don't have a problem with this, really.

I recently bought a guitar for $12,000, and I paid cash (all $100 bills).

When I handed over the money, the guy in the shop was very suspicious (he didn't know me, so he had no idea where I got the money from).

In the future, I'll just need to put the cash in the bank first and then pay by EFTPOS.

It's safer (walking around with $12,000 in your wallet is pretty stupid), and gives me an electronic record for insurance purposes too.




You must play like Jimmy page to spend that much on a guitar.


No.

I buy expensive guitars and pretend that I can't play like Jimmy (or Jeff).

This is my next purchase:

http://www.fendercustomshop.com/series/artist/jimmy-page-dragon-tele/




We've got a Jimmy Page right here on Ozpolitic:

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Reply #20 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:41pm:
Who knows Greggy.
Why the hell do they need to keep making new laws every day?
How many laws are there?
It must run into the millions by now.


I don't have a problem with this, really.

I recently bought a guitar for $12,000, and I paid cash (all $100 bills).

When I handed over the money, the guy in the shop was very suspicious (he didn't know me, so he had no idea where I got the money from).

In the future, I'll just need to put the cash in the bank first and then pay by EFTPOS.

It's safer (walking around with $12,000 in your wallet is pretty stupid), and gives me an electronic record for insurance purposes too.




You must play like Jimmy page to spend that much on a guitar.


No.

I buy expensive guitars and pretend that I can't play like Jimmy (or Jeff).

This is my next purchase:

http://www.fendercustomshop.com/series/artist/jimmy-page-dragon-tele/




We've got a Jimmy Page right here on Ozpolitic:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Jimmy_Page_9_large.jpg


Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.

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Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
So we're supposed to comment on a Bill that has this in it:
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Part 2—Offences
Division 1—Offences in relation to cash payments
9 Simplified outline of this Division
10 Offence—Cash payments in excess of cash payment limit
11 Offence—Cash payments recklessly in excess of cash payment
Division 2—[To be inserted]

What nasties have they got planned in "to be inserted"?



Offence—Cash payments recklessly in excess of cash payment Huh? What the frig does that mean? Only a Lib or Lab could think of something like that
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.




OK - so what are they asking for that replica?  $$$$

You do realise that Jimmy had at least 5 guitars to choose from for each concert?
He changed them between songs sometimes
for DADGAD tuning as used on Kashmir.
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So what's the chances that the Libs' mates who spend up big at the casinos will be exempt?  Angry
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Reply #24 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.




OK - so what are they asking for that replica?  $$$$

You do realise that Jimmy had at least 5 guitars to choose from for each concert?
He changed them between songs sometimes
for DADGAD tuning as used on Kashmir.


I'm a big DADGAD fan.

Also use the DADF#AD tuning (open D).

All because of Jimmy.

The Jimmy Dragon Tele is a little under $40,000.

https://www.musoscorner.com.au/fender-custom-shop-jimmy-page-dragon-tele
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.




OK - so what are they asking for that replica?  $$$$

You do realise that Jimmy had at least 5 guitars to choose from for each concert?
He changed them between songs sometimes
for DADGAD tuning as used on Kashmir.


I'm a big DADGAD fan.

Also use the DADF#AD tuning (open D).

All because of Jimmy.

The Jimmy Dragon Tele is a little under $40,000.

https://www.musoscorner.com.au/fender-custom-shop-jimmy-page-dragon-tele



That's big bucks -
you won't be able to pay cash.
Are you sure you're not just dreaming?
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Reply #26 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.




OK - so what are they asking for that replica?  $$$$

You do realise that Jimmy had at least 5 guitars to choose from for each concert?
He changed them between songs sometimes
for DADGAD tuning as used on Kashmir.


I'm a big DADGAD fan.

Also use the DADF#AD tuning (open D).

All because of Jimmy.

The Jimmy Dragon Tele is a little under $40,000.

https://www.musoscorner.com.au/fender-custom-shop-jimmy-page-dragon-tele



That's big bucks -
you won't be able to pay cash.
Are you sure you're not just dreaming?


I can afford it, but I don't think I'll buy it.

The price is ridiculous.

I'll probably go for this instead:

https://www.bettermusic.com.au/fender-jimmy-page-mirror-telecaster

https://derringers.com.au/fender-jimmy-page-mirror-telecaster-electric-guitar-fe...
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Reply #28 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.




OK - so what are they asking for that replica?  $$$$

You do realise that Jimmy had at least 5 guitars to choose from for each concert?
He changed them between songs sometimes
for DADGAD tuning as used on Kashmir.


I'm a big DADGAD fan.

Also use the DADF#AD tuning (open D).

All because of Jimmy.

The Jimmy Dragon Tele is a little under $40,000.

https://www.musoscorner.com.au/fender-custom-shop-jimmy-page-dragon-tele



That's big bucks -
you won't be able to pay cash.
Are you sure you're not just dreaming?


I can afford it, but I don't think I'll buy it.

The price is ridiculous.

I'll probably go for this instead:

https://www.bettermusic.com.au/fender-jimmy-page-mirror-telecaster

https://derringers.com.au/fender-jimmy-page-mirror-telecaster-electric-guitar-fe...




They look good for the price.
Are you sure they're not cheap Chinese copies?
There were some floating around & they were terrible.
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Reply #29 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Jimmy is one of my all time favourite players.

Jimmy, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour, etc.

Strangely though, I've never owned a Les Paul.

Too heavy, too expensive, and not as good as a Fender.

When I play Jimmy tunes, I use a Telecaster.




OK - so what are they asking for that replica?  $$$$

You do realise that Jimmy had at least 5 guitars to choose from for each concert?
He changed them between songs sometimes
for DADGAD tuning as used on Kashmir.


I'm a big DADGAD fan.

Also use the DADF#AD tuning (open D).

All because of Jimmy.

The Jimmy Dragon Tele is a little under $40,000.

https://www.musoscorner.com.au/fender-custom-shop-jimmy-page-dragon-tele



That's big bucks -
you won't be able to pay cash.
Are you sure you're not just dreaming?


I can afford it, but I don't think I'll buy it.

The price is ridiculous.

I'll probably go for this instead:

https://www.bettermusic.com.au/fender-jimmy-page-mirror-telecaster

https://derringers.com.au/fender-jimmy-page-mirror-telecaster-electric-guitar-fe...




They look good for the price.
Are you sure they're not cheap Chinese copies?
There were some floating around & they were terrible.


Considering the price, I'm guessing they're Mexican.

And Mexican Fenders are very, very good.

I have a few dozen US Strats and Teles, but my favourite Tele is a Mexican made one.

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The following I believe, but I'm damned if I'll ever pay a bank to hold my money. Next will come confiscation of savings, just like Cyprus did. 


Morrison moves to eliminate cash on instructions from IMF

Jul 31

Posted by Editor, cairns news

THE Morrison government is attempting to sneak legislation through Parliament to virtually criminalise cash as part of an International Monetary Fund (IMF) drive to bring in negative interest rates, allegedly to “fight recession”.
Negative interest rates mean you pay the bank to hold your money, but cash in hand incurs no such charge.

It means governments will exercise even tighter control over money than they and the central banking system already have.
Draft legislation about to be pushed through Parliament by the Morrison Liberals will outlaw cash payments above $10k under the guise of tax efficiency and combating “the black economy”.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison acting under orders from the IMF moves to eliminate cash

But the Australian lobby group Interests of the People (IOTP) says the real agenda is all about the imposition of the IMF’s extreme global monetary policy in the form of negative interest rates.

“This represents a significant curtailment of civil liberties, and more,” says IOTP.
Australians have less than two weeks to respond and mainstream media appears to have ignored it.

IOTP spokesman John Adams says the Australian Treasury has released draft legislation which was initially announced in the May 2018 Budget by then-Treasurer Scott Morrison.

Nothing was done last year, but the legislation now proposes introduction on January 1, 2020.

“I was skeptical that this ban on (cash) transactions would come in but now that the Coalition has been re-elected, the Coalition with ScoMo and (Treasurer Josh) Frydenberg have decided to push this initiative forward,” Mr Adams said on IOTP’s YouTube channel (“Red Alert: ScoMo declares war on the Australian people”).
Adams says the government is claiming it’s to deal with tax revenue and the black economy but if this was the case, why didn’t they do it a decade ago when the GST was brought in as a way of eliminating the black economy.

“They could have easily introduced certain bans on transactions at that point, but they never did. So why now?
“It’s because not of tax revenue, it’s about interest rates. It’s about the International Monetary Fund. They’ve written a series of technical papers … about how to make negative interest rates work.”
Adams says the IMF wants to make interest rates “deeply negative” e.g. negative 3 to 5 percent, something never done before in human history.

And this would allow the central banks to implement controls on money and people never before implemented in history.
Adams says this will be sold as an initiative to stop the black economy, but in reality it is the first of a series of stages to eliminate cash.
The Treasury announcement came out at 5:12pm on Friday, July 28, in an attempt to limit exposure of it. Mainstream media do not appear to have reported on the plans.
The consultation period ends on August 12th, which points to an attempt by the government to limit exposure of the plans, while allowing them to say “consultation was sought”.
The full interview can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=770M2s6ZD8Y&
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Nope, it's made in the US. Just looked it up (it's not from the Custom Shop).

There are Mexican versions of the Dragon Tele, though.

Again - Mexican Fenders are incredible value for money.
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Nope, it's made in the US. Just looked it up (it's not from the Custom Shop).

There are Mexican versions of the Dragon Tele, though.

Again - Mexican Fenders are incredible value for money.



Here's a fake Chinese Fender and it's good:





But this one is no good:

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The following I believe, but I'm damned if I'll ever pay a bank to hold my money. Next will come confiscation of savings, just like Cyprus did. 


Morrison moves to eliminate cash on instructions from IMF

Jul 31

Posted by Editor, cairns news

THE Morrison government is attempting to sneak legislation through Parliament to virtually criminalise cash as part of an International Monetary Fund (IMF) drive to bring in negative interest rates, allegedly to “fight recession”.
Negative interest rates mean you pay the bank to hold your money, but cash in hand incurs no such charge.

It means governments will exercise even tighter control over money than they and the central banking system already have.
Draft legislation about to be pushed through Parliament by the Morrison Liberals will outlaw cash payments above $10k under the guise of tax efficiency and combating “the black economy”.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison acting under orders from the IMF moves to eliminate cash

But the Australian lobby group Interests of the People (IOTP) says the real agenda is all about the imposition of the IMF’s extreme global monetary policy in the form of negative interest rates.

“This represents a significant curtailment of civil liberties, and more,” says IOTP.
Australians have less than two weeks to respond and mainstream media appears to have ignored it.

IOTP spokesman John Adams says the Australian Treasury has released draft legislation which was initially announced in the May 2018 Budget by then-Treasurer Scott Morrison.

Nothing was done last year, but the legislation now proposes introduction on January 1, 2020.

“I was skeptical that this ban on (cash) transactions would come in but now that the Coalition has been re-elected, the Coalition with ScoMo and (Treasurer Josh) Frydenberg have decided to push this initiative forward,” Mr Adams said on IOTP’s YouTube channel (“Red Alert: ScoMo declares war on the Australian people”).
Adams says the government is claiming it’s to deal with tax revenue and the black economy but if this was the case, why didn’t they do it a decade ago when the GST was brought in as a way of eliminating the black economy.

“They could have easily introduced certain bans on transactions at that point, but they never did. So why now?
“It’s because not of tax revenue, it’s about interest rates. It’s about the International Monetary Fund. They’ve written a series of technical papers … about how to make negative interest rates work.”
Adams says the IMF wants to make interest rates “deeply negative” e.g. negative 3 to 5 percent, something never done before in human history.

And this would allow the central banks to implement controls on money and people never before implemented in history.
Adams says this will be sold as an initiative to stop the black economy, but in reality it is the first of a series of stages to eliminate cash.
The Treasury announcement came out at 5:12pm on Friday, July 28, in an attempt to limit exposure of it. Mainstream media do not appear to have reported on the plans.
The consultation period ends on August 12th, which points to an attempt by the government to limit exposure of the plans, while allowing them to say “consultation was sought”.
The full interview can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=770M2s6ZD8Y&



Is it time to move your money to a foreign bank?

Will there be a huge exodus of money?
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Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result. What the government fails to see is that the black economy drives the whole economy, people who get paid in cash generally tend to pay in cash and the money is normally spent on consumables and entertainment. Idiotic politicians. They would be far better off getting rid of $100 notes.
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Is it time to move your money to a foreign bank?

Will there be a huge exodus of money?

People will start doing domestic transactions in foreign currencies.
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Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.
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Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Is it time to move your money to a foreign bank?

Will there be a huge exodus of money?

People will start doing domestic transactions in foreign currencies.


Using USA cash.
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rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.
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I've said before - people who work in the black market are but one step removed from the tax cycle... one spend of cash and some is absorbed back to Big Guv. 

People who offshore money to tax havens, spend it overseas, bury it in deadstock investments that actually cost tax etc including a new pool for their retirement home so that it's got everything and is asset test free, are the real drain on the economy.
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You can still buy a car for more than 10k cash from a private seller without LibLab Govt interference, but not from a dealer, you'll be spied on and put in jail for two years or fined $25,200.00
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We (the Liberal Party) Believe:

"In the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and we work towards a lean government that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative"

"In government that nurtures and encourages its citizens through incentive, rather than putting limits on people through the punishing disincentives of burdensome taxes and the stifling structures of Labor's corporate state and bureaucratic red tape."
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-beliefs


The Libs have lost their own plot. They're well past their use-by date

What happened with all the Free-trade deals?, looks like they're not working. Neither is mass immigration apparently. The only thing the Libs have got left up their sleeve is spying on cash transactions. It's not even a political party any more, it's just a whimp in the global swamp


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Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:05pm:
We (the Liberal Party) Believe:

"In the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and we work towards a lean government that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative"

"In government that nurtures and encourages its citizens through incentive, rather than putting limits on people through the punishing disincentives of burdensome taxes and the stifling structures of Labor's corporate state and bureaucratic red tape."
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-beliefs


The Libs have lost their own plot. They're well past their use-by date

What happened with all the Free-trade deals?, looks like they're not working. Neither is mass immigration apparently. The only thing the Libs have got left up their sleeve is spying on cash transactions. It's not even a political party any more, it's just a whimp in the global swamp

The Libs jumped the shark when they started knifing their leaders in the late 1960s and it's been downhill ever since.
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Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:09pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:05pm:
We (the Liberal Party) Believe:

"In the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and we work towards a lean government that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative"

"In government that nurtures and encourages its citizens through incentive, rather than putting limits on people through the punishing disincentives of burdensome taxes and the stifling structures of Labor's corporate state and bureaucratic red tape."
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-beliefs


The Libs have lost their own plot. They're well past their use-by date

What happened with all the Free-trade deals?, looks like they're not working. Neither is mass immigration apparently. The only thing the Libs have got left up their sleeve is spying on cash transactions. It's not even a political party any more, it's just a whimp in the global swamp

The Libs jumped the shark when they started knifing their leaders in the late 1960s and it's been downhill ever since.


Too true, and especially now, they don't believe in their own beliefs any more. So what do they believe in?, that's the question
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FTAs are not free at all - just one-sided against the Banana Republic ore seller.. (oooore) ... China has a 10% tariff, same as Trump retaliated with, and cheap labour is an automatic tariff..... 'we' can't sell finished goods to Thais, since they don't earn enough making Holden cars to buy our stuff = automatic tariff 101 .....  mass immigration is flooding the nation with people who have no real job, but pump up the artificial fudge housing market that makes it look like the nation is prosperous while costs of living outstrip wages ...... and keep the peasants off balance due to ethnic differences... jush kul'chral, innit, when a Musso screams 'Off With Their Heads!"?
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I wonder how long it will be before the grubberment dictates exactly WHAT we can spend our money on?

"Oh no, you don't need that new TV, so you will be fined for buying it"

"Nip, that overseas holiday, is not considered acceptable"

"Sorry, that operation is not in the public's best interest, you are too old to wast resources on keeping you alive"

The grubberment is getting bolder and bolder every day.
Big brother is here in a big way.
They invade our lives with great abandon
They twist our children's minds with twisted agenda.
They make up laws and rules, knowing that it's near impossible to comply all the time, simply to rape our finances.

The grubberment must go.
They are the true criminals.

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rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.



Our Govt. is desperate.
Every day we go into more and more debt -
measured in $billions.

National Govt. debt is now $710 billion.

Total Australian debt $7.2 trillion.

https://australiandebtclock.com.au/
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Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Is it time to move your money to a foreign bank?

Will there be a huge exodus of money?

People will start doing domestic transactions in foreign currencies.


"For the purposes of this Act, the value in Australian currency of an amount of cash paid in foreign currency or digital currency is to be worked out in accordance with the method prescribed, by legislative instrument, by the Minister".

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

Spot



It says cash NOT electronic.

Buy some spectacles.


Apologise to Spot, Bobby.

Here's a tip, from someone who reads legislation for a living: ALWAYS read the 'Definitions' clause in an Act FIRST.

From the Act in question:

"cash means either or both of the following:
"8 (a) digital currency;
"9 (b) physical currency."


https://www.treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Exposure%20draft%20-%20C...


Yeah thats where I got it from

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
i ran across this - apparently they are trying to get it through parliament now?

https://www.treasury.gov.au/consultation/c2019-t395788

theres a page in there about how individuals cant transfer more than 10k either thats cash or electronic - so much for loaning gramma 15k

Spot



It says cash NOT electronic.

Buy some spectacles.


Apologise to Spot, Bobby.

Here's a tip, from someone who reads legislation for a living: ALWAYS read the 'Definitions' clause in an Act FIRST.

From the Act in question:

"cash means either or both of the following:
"8 (a) digital currency;
"9 (b) physical currency."


https://www.treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Exposure%20draft%20-%20C...




Yes - that says:
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7(a)digital currency;8(b)physical currency



Spot - my apologies - I'm the one who needs new spectacles.

How does that work?

How could you buy a car or a house or anything worth more than $10K
I don't understand it.


Hang on, I think "digital currency" means things like Bitcoin.

Not the same as "electronic payment".

"In the 2018-19 Budget, the Government announced it would introduce an economy-wide cash payment limit of $10,000 for payments made or accepted by businesses for goods and services.

"Transactions equal to, or in excess of this amount would need to be made using the electronic payment system or by cheque."


Makes sense now.


Yeah I dunno  i tried to electronic payment 20k last year and got flagged and they froze my account and wanted to know what i was doing

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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:31am:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.



Our Govt. is desperate.
Every day we go into more and more debt -
measured in $billions.

National Govt. debt is now $710 billion.

Total Australian debt $7.2 trillion.

https://australiandebtclock.com.au/


That's what happens when you put a happy clapping clown in charge of the country.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:31am:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.



Our Govt. is desperate.
Every day we go into more and more debt -
measured in $billions.

National Govt. debt is now $710 billion.

Total Australian debt $7.2 trillion.

https://australiandebtclock.com.au/


That's what happens when you put a happy clapping clown in charge of the country.


https://theaimn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Morrison-e1555989508493.jpeg



It started under Labor but the Libbos
tripled it - nearly quadrupled it!

If they tried to pay off say $100 billion
per year to pay it off in 7 years it
would collapse our economy.

It will be $1 trillion soon.
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:31am:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.



Our Govt. is desperate.
Every day we go into more and more debt -
measured in $billions.

National Govt. debt is now $710 billion.

Total Australian debt $7.2 trillion.

https://australiandebtclock.com.au/


That's what happens when you put a happy clapping clown in charge of the country.


https://theaimn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Morrison-e1555989508493.jpeg



It started under Labor but the Libbos
tripled it - nearly quadrupled it!

If they tried to pay off say $100 billion
per year to pay it off in 7 years it
would collapse our economy.

It will be $1 trillion soon.
There is no answer.


We need Paul Keating back in The Lodge.

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How do the Chinese make their illegal donations to the Labor Party ?

There was mention of bags of cash.

ICAC is looking at this right now.

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We (the Liberal Party) Believe:

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"In government that nurtures and encourages its citizens through incentive, rather than putting limits on people through the punishing disincentives of burdensome taxes and the stifling structures of Labor's corporate state and bureaucratic red tape."
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-beliefs


Sounds more like the core beliefs of the Liberal Democrats rather than the modern Liberal Party.

Regarding the thread, I'm essentially a Libertarian and I don't see the fuss in imposing this limit. How many of you can honestly foresee a point in the future where you want to make a cash transaction in excess of $10,000? And even  if you wanted to, you're probably not going to get in trouble unless someone observing the transaction reports you.
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How do the Chinese make their illegal donations to the Labor Party ?


Easy.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:12am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:31am:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.



Our Govt. is desperate.
Every day we go into more and more debt -
measured in $billions.

National Govt. debt is now $710 billion.

Total Australian debt $7.2 trillion.

https://australiandebtclock.com.au/


That's what happens when you put a happy clapping clown in charge of the country.


https://theaimn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Morrison-e1555989508493.jpeg



It started under Labor but the Libbos
tripled it - nearly quadrupled it!

If they tried to pay off say $100 billion
per year to pay it off in 7 years it
would collapse our economy.

It will be $1 trillion soon.
There is no answer.


We need Paul Keating back in The Lodge.

The Labor party has lost its way. Shorten should have been the canary in the coal mine. They need to seriously reexamine their core policies and stop trying to claim the middle ground.
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Reply #57 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:37am
 
Gweggy does his best with his failing mind.

Gweggy, don't disappoint your fans - bring back your famous stain picture taken after you had your hemorrhoids operation.


The Labor Party is now irrelevant just like the Greenies so when will they amalgamate into the new GARBO PARTY ?
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Reply #58 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:40am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:12am:
We need Paul Keating back in The Lodge.

Paul Keating should never have left politics. He would wipe the floor with the current mob in government.

Thanks to the reforms he introduced as Treasurer, he has had more influence over Australia's economy in the past 25 years than any other single politician. If his reforms were allowed to be implemented in full - particularly 15% compulsory superannuation - our country would be in much better shape now.

We're currently suffering economically due to 20 years of conservative stagnation.

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Bammy sings the Socialist hymns.

Oh well the ScoMo Messiah has 20 years to sort it all out now.
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Reply #60 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:50am
 
Bam wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:40am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:12am:
We need Paul Keating back in The Lodge.

Paul Keating should never have left politics. He would wipe the floor with the current mob in government.

Thanks to the reforms he introduced as Treasurer, he has had more influence over Australia's economy in the past 25 years than any other single politician. If his reforms were allowed to be implemented in full - particularly 15% compulsory superannuation - our country would be in much better shape now.

We're currently suffering economically due to 20 years of conservative stagnation.



Right on!

I saw Paul on TV last night, and he's still streaks ahead of the current crop of wannabe politicians.

A true visionary, statesman, and gentleman.
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Gweggy is back trotting out the Labor slogans of 50 years ago.
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Reply #62 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:56am
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:36am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:12am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:31am:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Criminals will just utilise other methods to trade. This will also drive the use of virtual currencies like bitcoin and increase drug trafficking as a result.


The criminals will always find a way.

You will never stop black marketing. The government wants control over every cent we spend so they can tax it. f em.



Our Govt. is desperate.
Every day we go into more and more debt -
measured in $billions.

National Govt. debt is now $710 billion.

Total Australian debt $7.2 trillion.

https://australiandebtclock.com.au/


That's what happens when you put a happy clapping clown in charge of the country.


https://theaimn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Morrison-e1555989508493.jpeg



It started under Labor but the Libbos
tripled it - nearly quadrupled it!

If they tried to pay off say $100 billion
per year to pay it off in 7 years it
would collapse our economy.

It will be $1 trillion soon.
There is no answer.


We need Paul Keating back in The Lodge.

The Labor party has lost its way. Shorten should have been the canary in the coal mine. They need to seriously reexamine their core policies and stop trying to claim the middle ground.


Absolutely.

They need to learn from Shorten's failure but, unfortunately, the Labor Party aren't that smart.

I suspect they'll stuff up the next election too.

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Gweggy is back when Whitlam was king before he got shunted by the GG.
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Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
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Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


You underestimate Mr Keating.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


You underestimate Mr Keating.



Keating hasn't said a word about
how to fix the debt problem.


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Reply #67 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


You underestimate Mr Keating.



Keating hasn't said a word about
how to fix the debt problem.




Are you sure there's a problem?



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Reply #68 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


You underestimate Mr Keating.



Keating hasn't said a word about
how to fix the debt problem.


Perhaps, but he has a rocket science IQ as regards the economy, the current and previous mob have been dolts in comparison.
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Reply #69 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 2:39pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


You underestimate Mr Keating.



Keating hasn't said a word about
how to fix the debt problem.


Perhaps, but he has a rocket science IQ as regards the economy, the current and previous mob have been dolts in comparison.



The formula is simple - if we try to pay
it back the economy collapses and
prevents us from doing so.
We can only ever go into more
and more debt.
How the hell did we get into this situation?

All the politicians pretend it's not happening
but it's the elephant in the room.

Without borrowing we would have not
enough money to pay social security
and the gigantic army of public servants.

In Victoria 380,000 people got jobs
in the last year and 300,000
are public servants.

We borrow money to create fake jobs.
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"The only people opposed to this would be those who have something to hide."
no !
no!
Convicts stopped coming years ago. They're extinct . The Rum Corps and Chinese Opium Contractors are all gone.  Nothing to see here.
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby Sox.

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Reply #72 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby.




We should all be losing sleep over it.
Our GDP is high because it's based on borrowed money & fake jobs.
Where does this debt end?

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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby.




We should all be losing sleep over it.



Not this little black duck   Wink
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Reply #74 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby.




We should all be losing sleep over it.



Not this little black duck   Wink



Greggy,
You're just another sheep like most people.
It's actually a very serious problem and
there is no solution in sight.
The idiots who were running this country should be in jail -
the ones who got us into this financial mess.
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Reply #75 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby.




We should all be losing sleep over it.



Not this little black duck   Wink



Greggy,
You're just another sheep like most people.
It's actually a very serious problem and
there is no solution in sight.
The idiots who were running this country should be in jail -
the ones who got us into this financial mess.


Not this little black sheep, then.

Have a whiskey, and chill out.
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Reply #76 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby.




We should all be losing sleep over it.



Not this little black duck   Wink



Greggy,
You're just another sheep like most people.
It's actually a very serious problem and
there is no solution in sight.
The idiots who were running this country should be in jail -
the ones who got us into this financial mess.


Not this little black sheep, then.

Have a whiskey, and chill out.



Would you run your own life so that every year you were more in debt?
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Reply #77 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 2:39pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


You underestimate Mr Keating.



Keating hasn't said a word about
how to fix the debt problem.


Perhaps, but he has a rocket science IQ as regards the economy, the current and previous mob have been dolts in comparison.



The formula is simple - if we try to pay
it back the economy collapses and
prevents us from doing so.
We can only ever go into more
and more debt.
How the hell did we get into this situation?

All the politicians pretend it's not happening
but it's the elephant in the room.

Without borrowing we would have not
enough money to pay social security
and the gigantic army of public servants.

In Victoria 380,000 people got jobs
in the last year and 300,000
are public servants.

We borrow money to create fake jobs.

I agree that more needs to be done about our debt problem, Im not understanding your dismissal of public servants as "fake jobs". Surely the government needs to create employment, employing people directly in the public sector is an ideal way to create jobs. And please don't come out with any nonsense like "all public servants are lazy", most of the ones I know personally are under 6 to 12 month contract renewals and if they don't perform or their face doesn't fit they are out the door.
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Reply #78 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:21pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
I agree that more needs to be done about our debt problem, Im not understanding your dismissal of public servants as "fake jobs". Surely the government needs to create employment, employing people directly in the public sector is an ideal way to create jobs. And please don't come out with any nonsense like "all public servants are lazy", most of the ones I know personally are under 6 to 12 month contract renewals and if they don't perform or their face doesn't fit they are out the door.



But they are fake jobs paid for with borrowed money.
That's the sort of action that drives us into more debt.
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Reply #79 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby.




We should all be losing sleep over it.



Not this little black duck   Wink



Greggy,
You're just another sheep like most people.
It's actually a very serious problem and
there is no solution in sight.
The idiots who were running this country should be in jail -
the ones who got us into this financial mess.


Not this little black sheep, then.

Have a whiskey, and chill out.



Would you run your own life so that every year you were more in debt?


And that's the big mistake many people make - assuming that government debt is just like household debt.

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Reply #80 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby Sox.

It doesn't hurt to be taking a look at government debt.

Many countries have paid down their debt in the last five years. Australia has not.

Many countries have kept their debt to GDP ratio steady or reduced it. Australia has not.

A debt to GDP ratio that is stable is sustainable indefinitely. (This is why government debt isn't the same as personal debt.) Australia's ratio isn't stable, it's increased significantly in the last five years. Thus, there may be a problem with government debt in Australia.

That doesn't mean there definitely is a problem, but it is worth looking at.
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Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.
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Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.



you can, provided you have given the appropriate notice. my bank asks for 24hrs
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AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.



you can, provided you have given the appropriate notice. my bank asks for 24hrs


Exactly. Otherwise you need a gun.  Tongue
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AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.
Sure you can, I drew out $25000 from a main branch about 2 months ago and walked up the road and used it to buy foreign currency. I didn't actually fill out any forms, I showed my card, they asked me to sign to authenticate my signature and the money was given to me. Suburban branches may ask for notice but not for $10,000. Hope this information  helps you out in your quest for knowledge.
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
I agree that more needs to be done about our debt problem, Im not understanding your dismissal of public servants as "fake jobs". Surely the government needs to create employment, employing people directly in the public sector is an ideal way to create jobs. And please don't come out with any nonsense like "all public servants are lazy", most of the ones I know personally are under 6 to 12 month contract renewals and if they don't perform or their face doesn't fit they are out the door.



But they are fake jobs paid for with borrowed money.
That's the sort of action that drives us into more debt.
Do people with mortgages live in "fake houses" Bobby? Not creating jobs is not the way to grow the economy, if we got rid of the dual system created for the aboriginal industry we could kill the debt in 5 years.
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AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.
Sure you can, I drew out $25000 from a main branch about 2 months ago and walked up the road and used it to buy foreign currency. I didn't actually fill out any forms, I showed my card, they asked me to sign to authenticate my signature and the money was given to me. Suburban branches may ask for notice but not for $10,000. Hope this information  helps you out in your quest for knowledge.


The CBA then? Did you show your weapon? Wink
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It would of course depend on the sizeof the branch.
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Reply #88 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:15pm
 
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:05pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.
Sure you can, I drew out $25000 from a main branch about 2 months ago and walked up the road and used it to buy foreign currency. I didn't actually fill out any forms, I showed my card, they asked me to sign to authenticate my signature and the money was given to me. Suburban branches may ask for notice but not for $10,000. Hope this information  helps you out in your quest for knowledge.


The CBA then? Did you show your weapon? Wink
Ive drawn out over $10000 a number of times in the last few years and haven't had any questions asked or any fallout. The money has of course been used for legitimate purchases and uses. The government is wrong on this legislation, wont help anyone, it will just make the black market worse.
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Reply #89 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:22pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:05pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.
Sure you can, I drew out $25000 from a main branch about 2 months ago and walked up the road and used it to buy foreign currency. I didn't actually fill out any forms, I showed my card, they asked me to sign to authenticate my signature and the money was given to me. Suburban branches may ask for notice but not for $10,000. Hope this information  helps you out in your quest for knowledge.


The CBA then? Did you show your weapon? Wink
Ive drawn out over $10000 a number of times in the last few years and haven't had any questions asked or any fallout. The money has of course been used for legitimate purchases and uses. The government is wrong on this legislation, wont help anyone, it will just make the black market worse.


WHY would you actually NEED 10 grand in CASH? Could you not get a Bank Cheque? Walking out of a Bank with 10 GRAND in a hold all would give my the willies.
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Reply #90 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:39pm
 
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:22pm:
Could you not get a Bank Cheque?



costs money ...cash is free.
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Reply #91 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:58pm
 
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:22pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:05pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
AaronCRescue wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
Does anybody think that they can just walk into their Bank and ask to draw out 10 grand CASH?  Provided that they fill out the forms and have that amount IN the account? Don't make me laugh.
Sure you can, I drew out $25000 from a main branch about 2 months ago and walked up the road and used it to buy foreign currency. I didn't actually fill out any forms, I showed my card, they asked me to sign to authenticate my signature and the money was given to me. Suburban branches may ask for notice but not for $10,000. Hope this information  helps you out in your quest for knowledge.


The CBA then? Did you show your weapon? Wink
Ive drawn out over $10000 a number of times in the last few years and haven't had any questions asked or any fallout. The money has of course been used for legitimate purchases and uses. The government is wrong on this legislation, wont help anyone, it will just make the black market worse.


WHY would you actually NEED 10 grand in CASH? Could you not get a Bank Cheque? Walking out of a Bank with 10 GRAND in a hold all would give my the willies.
bank cheques take 5 days to clear. For non bank currency transactions that doesnt fly. I also buy my vehicles for cash on the private market. I had $25000 in my bag not so long ago, I changed it to euros and $US mainly because I expected the Aussie to drop substantially, which it has.
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Reply #92 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:15pm
 
Bam wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Greggy,
during the recent Federal election Govt. debt was
a forbidden topic - neither party nor Keating
have the slightest clue what to do.
Every promise they made was to use borrowed money.


It's a forbidden topic because it unnecessarily scares the public.

Australia’s government debt as a percentage of GDP is around 41%.

That's less than half the level of most major industrialised economies such as Japan (236%), Britain (86%), Germany (60%), the US (108%), Canada (86%) and France (96%).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, Bobby Sox.

It doesn't hurt to be taking a look at government debt.

Many countries have paid down their debt in the last five years. Australia has not.

Many countries have kept their debt to GDP ratio steady or reduced it. Australia has not.

A debt to GDP ratio that is stable is sustainable indefinitely. (This is why government debt isn't the same as personal debt.) Australia's ratio isn't stable, it's increased significantly in the last five years. Thus, there may be a problem with government debt in Australia.

That doesn't mean there definitely is a problem, but it is worth looking at.



That's all we'll ever do - just look at it.
My point is that neither party nor people like Keating know what to do.
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Reply #93 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:17pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
I agree that more needs to be done about our debt problem, Im not understanding your dismissal of public servants as "fake jobs". Surely the government needs to create employment, employing people directly in the public sector is an ideal way to create jobs. And please don't come out with any nonsense like "all public servants are lazy", most of the ones I know personally are under 6 to 12 month contract renewals and if they don't perform or their face doesn't fit they are out the door.



But they are fake jobs paid for with borrowed money.
That's the sort of action that drives us into more debt.
Do people with mortgages live in "fake houses" Bobby? Not creating jobs is not the way to grow the economy, if we got rid of the dual system created for the aboriginal industry we could kill the debt in 5 years.


So we can blame it on the Abbos?
That's a new one.
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Reply #95 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
I agree that more needs to be done about our debt problem, Im not understanding your dismissal of public servants as "fake jobs". Surely the government needs to create employment, employing people directly in the public sector is an ideal way to create jobs. And please don't come out with any nonsense like "all public servants are lazy", most of the ones I know personally are under 6 to 12 month contract renewals and if they don't perform or their face doesn't fit they are out the door.



But they are fake jobs paid for with borrowed money.
That's the sort of action that drives us into more debt.
Do people with mortgages live in "fake houses" Bobby? Not creating jobs is not the way to grow the economy, if we got rid of the dual system created for the aboriginal industry we could kill the debt in 5 years.


So we can blame it on the Abbos?
That's a new one.
30 Billion a year is spent on 500,000 indigenous people. Most of who are more white than black.
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
I agree that more needs to be done about our debt problem, Im not understanding your dismissal of public servants as "fake jobs". Surely the government needs to create employment, employing people directly in the public sector is an ideal way to create jobs. And please don't come out with any nonsense like "all public servants are lazy", most of the ones I know personally are under 6 to 12 month contract renewals and if they don't perform or their face doesn't fit they are out the door.



But they are fake jobs paid for with borrowed money.
That's the sort of action that drives us into more debt.
Do people with mortgages live in "fake houses" Bobby? Not creating jobs is not the way to grow the economy, if we got rid of the dual system created for the aboriginal industry we could kill the debt in 5 years.


So we can blame it on the Abbos?
That's a new one.
30 Billion a year is spent on 500,000 indigenous people. Most of who are more white than black.



Really? - do you have a link?
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Reply #98 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:23pm
 
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link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
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That is subscriber only content.
It's sort of true.
fact check:

https://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-is-30-billion-spent-every-year-on-50...

the fact that only a really small chunk of the overall Indigenous spending is on Indigenous-specific programs. Most is on mainstream programs.

As the article notes, Productivity Commission estimates that only $5.6 billion or 18.6% of the $30 billion Mundine refers to is provided through Indigenous-specific or targeted services. The Productivity Commission does not examine how much of this $5.6 billion actually goes to Indigenous organisations within community or Indigenous peoples themselves – and how much is spent on government businesses.

Warren Mundine’s broader point that current spending is not yielding results needs further attention. The government’s Closing the Gap targets are nowhere near being met, and in some cases, widening, suggesting that these programs are, by and large, failing. Policy logic underpinning spending should be examined. – Elise Klein.
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:25pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


That is subscriber only content.
It's sort of true.
fact check:

https://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-is-30-billion-spent-every-year-on-50...

the fact that only a really small chunk of the overall Indigenous spending is on Indigenous-specific programs. Most is on mainstream programs.

As the article notes, Productivity Commission estimates that only $5.6 billion or 18.6% of the $30 billion Mundine refers to is provided through Indigenous-specific or targeted services. The Productivity Commission does not examine how much of this $5.6 billion actually goes to Indigenous organisations within community or Indigenous peoples themselves – and how much is spent on government businesses.


Thats double talk which allows them not to include money spent on duplicating services which are already available to the rest of Australians like the Aboriginal legal service.
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...



We have to end such waste.
The Pollys won't attack the problem.
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This is why I keep getting called racist, we got pensioners eating dog food because they cant survive on the pension and we are throwing over 30 billion a year away with no positive result.
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...



it's money the federal govt gives for aboriginal spending, that the states then spend on other things

a large portion of the money spent on 'aboriginal services' is pilfered off to  white man long before the aborigines see any of it.

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
This is why I keep getting called racist, we got pensioners eating dog food because they cant survive on the pension and we are throwing over 30 billion a year away with no positive result.



The problem is that whenever someone else gets to spend your money -
in this case - tax money -
there's no way they will spend it for your interest.
They give it away to no hopers while you
wind your weary way to work to pay for it.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...



it's money the federal govt gives for aboriginal spending, that the states then spend on other things

a large portion of the money spent on 'aboriginal services' is pilfered off to  white man long before the aborigines see any of it.

uh no, if you read the report you would see that there is billions of state government spending they do not include.

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govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.
Is that right? So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care? What about housing, should the government provide free housing for me? Access to scheme water and electricity? You really support the right of anyone to do that and still have access to these services?
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So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?
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Predictably, John makes a ludicrous nonsensical claim then runs away from his own stupidity.
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rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?


I'm often struck by those TV programs that show an Aboriginal 'remotee' driving a celeb around in a boat to see the Great West Coast etc.. pretty remote... never a shortage of fuel for the gas-guzzling motors and such...

"Now, Harry - I'm gonna show you how we traditionally cook Barramundi... first we tek our 30 ft tinnie out an' we cetch dat saltwater Barra... pretty good, eh?... I use a 10 pound loine.. nylon, ye know... then we bring 'im beck an 'start a fire with dem matches or a lighter... 'eat some rocks dere.. an' we wrep 'im in aluminium foil wit' some bush herbs, mate... an' we cook 'im like dat!

Dat's 'ow we live an' eat in a remote community, eh? Don' need Whartey..."
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Reply #111 - Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:17pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?


of course I'm qualifying it. Do you perchance see a hospital in every sydney suburb? Is there a school in every suburb? Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:17pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?


of course I'm qualifying it. Do you perchance see a hospital in every sydney suburb? Is there a school in every suburb? Roll Eyes
So qualify it girl, exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely? or havent you worked that out yet as part of your grand scheme?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 1:48am:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?


I'm often struck by those TV programs that show an Aboriginal 'remotee' driving a celeb around in a boat to see the Great West Coast etc.. pretty remote... never a shortage of fuel for the gas-guzzling motors and such...

"Now, Harry - I'm gonna show you how we traditionally cook Barramundi... first we tek our 30 ft tinnie out an' we cetch dat saltwater Barra... pretty good, eh?... I use a 10 pound loine.. nylon, ye know... then we bring 'im beck an 'start a fire with dem matches or a lighter... 'eat some rocks dere.. an' we wrep 'im in aluminium foil wit' some bush herbs, mate... an' we cook 'im like dat!

Dat's 'ow we live an' eat in a remote community, eh? Don' need Whartey..."
if we gave the same level of support to anyone who wished to live remotely as we currently give to Aboriginals who choose to live remotely  the country would go bankrupt within a month.  John hasnt worked it out yet but he will get there in the end. You can take a dummy to knowledge but you cant make him think.
$35 B a year federal money on 500,000 people. Plus whatever the states spend. We need to end this racist system now.
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rhino wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:17pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?


of course I'm qualifying it. Do you perchance see a hospital in every sydney suburb? Is there a school in every suburb? Roll Eyes
So qualify it girl, exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely? or havent you worked that out yet as part of your grand scheme?



Plenty of support, if you value the culture that is holding on.

See, one of the effects of intellectual evolution is the4 valuing of First People all around the world.

Yu are welcome to do so in a condescending, curiosity/patronage angle if you prefer. Others consider their value to be more than that. I am one of them.

Fortunately, it seems i am in the majority.

Those of you resenting any form of validation for an ancient culture are best left to Alan Jones. You can screech to him all you like, He alwys wants to listen.
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Choice-mobile, son - that's what it's all about... go live in a remote community with no nurse even - just don't complain about it, and then scream racist invasion intervention the moment your  government sends in the Army's medical people to do some hearts and minds stuff... civil action campaigns, you know...
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John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...



it's money the federal govt gives for aboriginal spending, that the states then spend on other things

a large portion of the money spent on 'aboriginal services' is pilfered off to  white man long before the aborigines see any of it.

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Fair suck of the slug, son - can you support that?
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Reply #118 - Aug 9th, 2019 at 12:13am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 12:06am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...



it's money the federal govt gives for aboriginal spending, that the states then spend on other things

a large portion of the money spent on 'aboriginal services' is pilfered off to  white man long before the aborigines see any of it.

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Fair suck of the slug, son - can you support that?




You're kidding, right? First you've heard of it is it?

Northern Territory cash shuffle sees $2bn taken from indigenous aid


You just after government misappropriation and theft or will all the millions stolen in the private sector do? It's an easy google.

You should know all this if you are going to offer an opinion.

The overwhelming majority of money allocated to Indigenous services never reaches the people. This has always been the case. Nothing new.

And the people resent it so.

Quite well designed i think. Well, considering the average IQ of who you need to fool.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it


These people have the opportunity and the ability to Moe closer to civilization where aid is free and available.
They have the opportunity and funding to have any number of them trained to be medical providers and be skilled, but they waste it.

Some time ago, a politician said the people should move to where the work is.
Abbos move away from the work as an excuse to complain and whine about being ignored.
If they want to live a primitive lifestyle, it comes with all the trappings of said lifestyle, including no medial care.

Or should we simply throw a few billion more at the abbos by setting up medical centres near abbo encampments, to be raided, destroyed, and it's medical staff accused of racism and of interfering with their "kultcha"?

200 years they have had to assimilate into cultural advancement.
200 years they have been given opportunity
Billions and billions of dollars are thrown at them.
If they still want to live as pre-stone age primitive, let them.
But no longer do they have any right to suck on the tit of the culture they continually put down.
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rhino wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:17pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?


of course I'm qualifying it. Do you perchance see a hospital in every sydney suburb? Is there a school in every suburb? Roll Eyes
So qualify it girl, exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely? or havent you worked that out yet as part of your grand scheme?


there is no 'one size fits all' you dope. Govt. has to decide depending on the individual circumstances of each community.
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Yet another clueless and idiotic statement from John Smith and the run away tactic after been show to be an idiot.




Grin Grin Grin Grin

god you're an idiot.

Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:19am:
These people have the opportunity and the ability to Moe closer to civilization where aid is free and available.


as you have an opportunity to move to a country with no aborigines.

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John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:17pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:06pm:
So If I decide to create a community of several people thousands of miles away from anything then I should have access to advanced medical care?



advanced care? most of these communities don't even have a full time nurse, let alone advanced medical care. get your hand off it
But you said this.
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Are you qualifying it now? Exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely?
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of course I'm qualifying it. Do you perchance see a hospital in every sydney suburb? Is there a school in every suburb? Roll Eyes
So qualify it girl, exactly what level of support should government give to anyone who decides to live remotely? or havent you worked that out yet as part of your grand scheme?


there is no 'one size fits all' you dope. Govt. has to decide depending on the individual circumstances of each community.

But John, you said of course I'm qualifying it.
So what is the qualification? difficult question?
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The biggest irony here of course is that after being given a hiding on every single idiotic statement he has made john  smith is calling other people idiots.
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The overwhelming majority of money allocated to Indigenous services never reaches the people. This has always been the case. Nothing new.

.

Bit slow but you got there, its an Aboriginal industry we are funding and we are paying over $30b a year for increasingly negative outcomes. Get it now? And most of this money ends up with people who have one poofteenth aboriginal blood or none at all but are allowed to call themselves indigenous and divert the money into $200,000 a year jobs and company cars as Aboriginal "advisors"because of useful fools like yourself who have no idea about the issue.
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But John, you said of course I'm qualifying it.
So what is the qualification? difficult question?


the qualification depends on a range of factors. Qualifying it does not mean that each community gets a set predetermined amount equal to each other community Cheesy Cheesy
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The biggest irony here of course is that after being given a hiding on every single idiotic statement he has made john  smith is calling other people idiots.



hiding as determined by whom? you? Grin Grin Grin

marking your own work now dopey? ... a sure sign of an idiot if ever there was one.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
But John, you said of course I'm qualifying it.
So what is the qualification? difficult question?


the qualification depends on a range of factors. Qualifying it does not mean that each community gets a set predetermined amount equal to each other community Cheesy Cheesy
so despite saying "of course Im qualifying it", you cant qualify it. So far you have idiotically claimed that anyone who moves to a remote location should get the same level of support from  the government, then you said no, it needs to be qualified. Now you state you cant qualify it. Is there a position you can state and adhere to john or does it constantly change with every single dribbling moronic idiotic post you make on the issue?
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rhino wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 11:33pm:
Yet another clueless and idiotic statement from John Smith and the run away tactic after been show to be an idiot.




Grin Grin Grin Grin

god you're an idiot.

Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:19am:
These people have the opportunity and the ability to Moe closer to civilization where aid is free and available.


as you have an opportunity to move to a country with no aborigines.



Why should I move?
It's my country as much as theirs.
More, because I have paid my way.

Besides, I live were tgere are few abbos.
The suburb I live in is not housing commission, so no abbos
I work for a living, won't find abbos there either.
I work as a volunteer,  surely won't see any abbos there.
And I don't go to pubs.

So basically, I never come into contact with them other than the news and a few abbo mates in different cities and towns.
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rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
But John, you said of course I'm qualifying it.
So what is the qualification? difficult question?


the qualification depends on a range of factors. Qualifying it does not mean that each community gets a set predetermined amount equal to each other community Cheesy Cheesy
so despite saying "of course Im qualifying it", you cant qualify it. So far you have idiotically claimed that anyone who moves to a remote location should get the same level of support from  the government, then you said no, it needs to be qualified. Now you state you cant qualify it. Is there a position you can state and adhere to john or does it constantly change with every single dribbling moronic idiotic post you make on the issue?


no one, apart from you of course, ever said they should all get the same level of support.

It does need to be qualified, by those who are in a position to qualify it. I certainly don't know the circumstances of every community out there and I have never claimed to know.

Are you really that thick that you continue to struggle?


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Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


link hits a paywall

how much of that money goes to these sorts of causes rhino?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/how-can-nt-spend-federal-remote-indigenou...
State government, Im talking federal. Unwittingly though you have highlighted a key issue, propping up remote communities with subsidies all out of proportion. Heres the report from 2014 which quotes a figure of $30.4 Billion.
https://www.pc.gov.au/research/ongoing/indigenous-expenditure-report/2014/indige...



it's money the federal govt gives for aboriginal spending, that the states then spend on other things

a large portion of the money spent on 'aboriginal services' is pilfered off to  white man long before the aborigines see any of it.

govts should support all communities, aboriginal or otherwise, remote or otherwise, No matter how much you might not like it.


Fair suck of the slug, son - can you support that?



it is true grap

Aboriginal Affairs has its own budget like all depts..

it is quite common when things get out of hand with some dept,they chalk  it up  to Aboriginal Affairs..



so much waste goes on...its rife right though the whole of the Public Service..



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John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:50pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
But John, you said of course I'm qualifying it.
So what is the qualification? difficult question?


the qualification depends on a range of factors. Qualifying it does not mean that each community gets a set predetermined amount equal to each other community Cheesy Cheesy
so despite saying "of course Im qualifying it", you cant qualify it. So far you have idiotically claimed that anyone who moves to a remote location should get the same level of support from  the government, then you said no, it needs to be qualified. Now you state you cant qualify it. Is there a position you can state and adhere to john or does it constantly change with every single dribbling moronic idiotic post you make on the issue?


no one, apart from you of course, ever said they should all get the same level of support.

It does need to be qualified, by those who are in a position to qualify it. I certainly don't know the circumstances of every community out there and I have never claimed to know.

Are you really that thick that you continue to struggle?


Im glad you admit you are in no position to know how to qualify it and that you know nothing about these remote communities.  if you would have realised that from the beginning an just stayed out of a topic you now admit you know nothing about we would all have been better off.
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so much waste goes on...its rife right though the whole of the Public Service..

That's what you get when Libs run the country.
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Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

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cods wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
so much waste goes on...its rife right though the whole of the Public Service..

That's what you get when Libs run the country.




of course no waste during the looooog 6 years of labor..

pinkbatts
BER
green loans..just to name a few...

none at all...hilarious.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

Circle of life init?


no, that wasn't what i was getting at. I'm not surprised you don't get it though, it's a little out of your depth.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:50pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:52pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
But John, you said of course I'm qualifying it.
So what is the qualification? difficult question?


the qualification depends on a range of factors. Qualifying it does not mean that each community gets a set predetermined amount equal to each other community Cheesy Cheesy
so despite saying "of course Im qualifying it", you cant qualify it. So far you have idiotically claimed that anyone who moves to a remote location should get the same level of support from  the government, then you said no, it needs to be qualified. Now you state you cant qualify it. Is there a position you can state and adhere to john or does it constantly change with every single dribbling moronic idiotic post you make on the issue?


no one, apart from you of course, ever said they should all get the same level of support.

It does need to be qualified, by those who are in a position to qualify it. I certainly don't know the circumstances of every community out there and I have never claimed to know.

Are you really that thick that you continue to struggle?


Im glad you admit you are in no position to know how to qualify it and that you know nothing about these remote communities.  if you would have realised that from the beginning an just stayed out of a topic you now admit you know nothing about we would all have been better off. 


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White flag accepted codardo.



no prizes for second, dopey
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White flag accepted codardo.



no prizes for second, dopey
you just spent 2 days arguing about something you now say you know nothing about and you call me dopey? You stupid little man.
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rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 10:18am:
White flag accepted codardo.



no prizes for second, dopey
you just spent 2 days arguing about something you now say you know nothing about and you call me dopey? You stupid little man.


that's your take on it. But since you're a dope,  your take is in wrong.

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John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 10:33am:
rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 10:18am:
White flag accepted codardo.



no prizes for second, dopey
you just spent 2 days arguing about something you now say you know nothing about and you call me dopey? You stupid little man.


that's your take on it. But since you're a dope,  your take is in wrong.



Is that a prejudgement? I.E. Prejudice? Or perhaps a hurt butt? Either way it's white flag.
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rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 10:33am:
rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 10:18am:
White flag accepted codardo.



no prizes for second, dopey
you just spent 2 days arguing about something you now say you know nothing about and you call me dopey? You stupid little man.


that's your take on it. But since you're a dope,  your take is in wrong.



Is that a prejudgement? I.E. Prejudice? Or perhaps a hurt butt? Either way it's white flag.

clearly projection is one of your preferred strategies.
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Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 12:34am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

Circle of life init?



So you have no concern that an ancient culture be preserved? None at all?

If that is true,i find it immeasurably sad.
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mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 9:57am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 12:34am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

Circle of life init?



So you have no concern that an ancient culture be preserved? None at all?

If that is true,i find it immeasurably sad.


Can't it survive on its own?  History sucks, neh?  While we're on the subject - exactly what is it that anyone is doing to actively destroy this 'culture'?  I mean, apart from those who 'own' it ....

Maybe we need to begin with defining exactly what constitutes this 'culture'............ then we can talk tin tacks.....
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Reply #146 - Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am
 
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Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 12:34am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

Circle of life init?



So you have no concern that an ancient culture be preserved? None at all?

If that is true,i find it immeasurably sad.



I think its more to do with the "ancients" and their demands or wants mothra..

in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..

I am sure the "ancients" didnt have clinics on hand.. what do you think?..

I am all for people living as they choose....but seriously this aint living like ones ancestors...
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Reply #147 - Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 9:57am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 12:34am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

Circle of life init?



So you have no concern that an ancient culture be preserved? None at all?

If that is true,i find it immeasurably sad.



I think its more to do with the "ancients" and their demands or wants mothra..

in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..

I am sure the "ancients" didnt have clinics on hand.. what do you think?..

I am all for people living as they choose....but seriously this aint living like ones ancestors...



Cods, with all due respect, have you ever listened to what they want? I'm only asking because you seem to have absolutely no idea what it is.

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in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?
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cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?



You know how peope from Europe get bamboozled by our distance between places here in Australia? I think a great many city dwellers share that.

I honestly don't think they understand how poorly resourced much of our country is ... the distance between places.

Nobody's asking for fully decked out medical centres in every community. Just access to them. Sadly, too many Australians think that this is what's being asked for ... see the dollars wasted ... and resent it.

I swear, it's really tempting to think it's by design, so tight is the stitch up.
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I think a great many city dwellers share that.


yep

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I swear, it's really tempting to think it's by design, so tight is the stitch up.



what makes it worse is that often govt dept's share the same view. Imagine punishing an unemployed person for missing a meeting, when the nearest centrelink office is 500km away with no viable public transport to speak of, or fining someone for driving unlicensed when making their way to dept. transport, which is also 500km away  etc
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what makes it worse is that often govt dept's share the same view. Imagine punishing an unemployed person for missing a meeting, when the nearest centrelink office is 500km away with no viable public transport to speak of, or fining someone for driving unlicensed when making their way to dept. transport, which is also 500km away  etc


Exactly right. And with social security fraud and driving misdemeanours being principle causes of the high incarceration the likes of you know who go on about, it just keeps on looking like a damn plot/
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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....
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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



This post is a classic example of why i simply don't bother with you anymore.

You're a complete idiot. And worse than that, you actually think you're clever.

No idea at all. None.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


He was extolling the virtues of Valkie in another thread. I mean really. What more need be said?
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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


Better than an idiot who can't even come up with something more than just one line. I'll throw this one in just to show I can at least bring up 'two' - just to show you that you're still an idiot.
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mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


He was extolling the virtues of Valkie in another thread. I mean really. What more need be said?


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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


You talking to yourself again, Smith?  Try answering the questions, dickhead.  Slagging others doesn't help your case in any way, and puts you in danger of self-harm to your account again - dickhead.

Whatever you're on, sonny - get off it.  It's doing terrible things to what was once your brain.
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mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


He was extolling the virtues of Valkie in another thread. I mean really. What more need be said?


You, too, eh?  Just as dumb as smith - try reading what I actually said about Valkie....

Add something to the discussion - try answering the questions - which we all know you can't - or leave the room.

How are those who choose to live far from the madding crowd to access emergency help etc and get reliable preventative medicine etc?

Christ you pair are dumb.  Typical know-alls with nothing...... and such easy meat at every mouthing off you make.
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Jasin wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


He was extolling the virtues of Valkie in another thread. I mean really. What more need be said?


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.. something that smokes the mind from the reading of it....   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



This post is a classic example of why i simply don't bother with you anymore.

You're a complete idiot. And worse than that, you actually think you're clever.

No idea at all. None.



Not one word of value or contribution to the discussion... grow up, child.

Bloody Interventionist - the moment you arrive here the discussion goes downhill and all common courtesy with it - you and Smith.

No answers, eh? 

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"We put 'im in the Lend Cruisah en' we tek 'im to dat 'ospital over der!"

"Ah - you min dat 'ospital was promise by de Lend Council, eh?  'Fore o' efteh dey spend all dat money on partyin' fo' demself and deir friends?  No wunna dat 'Oward Captain cook e' wanna lease from da traditional ownahs dat 'ousing plan, eh?"

"So Nugunnwullya goin' dah on us, bro?"

"Yeah, bro - sorry 'bout dat - 'im too plurry long det 'ospital in Broome, y' know."

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what makes it worse is that often govt dept's share the same view. Imagine punishing an unemployed person for missing a meeting, when the nearest centrelink office is 500km away with no viable public transport to speak of, or fining someone for driving unlicensed when making their way to dept. transport, which is also 500km away  etc


Exactly right. And with social security fraud and driving misdemeanours being principle causes of the high incarceration the likes of you know who go on about, it just keeps on looking like a damn plot/
More like assault. Domestic assault. And sexual offences. You should be all over this Mothra, what with your opposition to domestic assault and rape. Yet you appear to be mitigating this behaviour  by attempting to portray their offending is minor. Its not, the statistics paint a very ugly picture of child abuse and sexual assault, the more remote the community the higher the offending. Recidivism is what causes the high incarceration rate, the fact they just keep committing  the same offences over and over.
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Why should I move?



why should they move ?  Roll Eyes


You have a point. Not a very good one but then... Valkie should move if he doesn't want to be near boongs and boongs should move if they want to be near Valkie's tax money. Is that what you were getting at? I marvel at your reasoning Mimo, you're a genius.

Circle of life init?



So you have no concern that an ancient culture be preserved? None at all?

If that is true,i find it immeasurably sad.


There are many ancient cultures that have gone the way of the dinosaur. It's neither something to be happy or sad over, it just is. History and people move on. I often wonder what kind of culture Europe would have had if not for Julius Caesar for example. I would like to have seen what would have developed but if it had I would almost certainly not exist. I like existing so for better or worse... Almost all Aboriginals that are alive today have some foreign blood, they would not exist if history was changed, they should embrace that change as a part of giving them life. Your romanticism is noted.


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what makes it worse is that often govt dept's share the same view. Imagine punishing an unemployed person for missing a meeting, when the nearest centrelink office is 500km away with no viable public transport to speak of, or fining someone for driving unlicensed when making their way to dept. transport, which is also 500km away  etc


Exactly right. And with social security fraud and driving misdemeanours being principle causes of the high incarceration the likes of you know who go on about, it just keeps on looking like a damn plot/
More like assault. Domestic assault. And sexual offences. You should be all over this Mothra, what with your opposition to domestic assault and rape. Yet you appear to be mitigating this behaviour  by attempting to portray their offending is minor. Its not, the statistics paint a very ugly picture of child abuse and sexual assault, the more remote the community the higher the offending. Recidivism is what causes the high incarceration rate, the fact they just keep committing  the same offences over and over. 


'driving misdemeanours'?  You sure about that?

Yo' godda link, bro?  You d' one got it all t' han', y' know... so SHOW US!

Social security fraud?  Have to be serious to be doing prison time.... maybe they need to look at land council fraud... you know - the ones where the assholes running the show steal from those supposed to benefit from it all...

Le's looka dis one, bro:-

"The most common offence/charge for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners was Acts intended to cause injury (34% or 4,071 prisoners) followed by Unlawful entry with intent (14% or 1,679 prisoners). The most common offences/charges for non-Indigenous prisoners were Illicit drug offences (20% or 6,288 prisoners) and Acts intended to cause injury (18% or 5,583 prisoners). "

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/4517.0~2018~Main%20...

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 7:48pm:
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what makes it worse is that often govt dept's share the same view. Imagine punishing an unemployed person for missing a meeting, when the nearest centrelink office is 500km away with no viable public transport to speak of, or fining someone for driving unlicensed when making their way to dept. transport, which is also 500km away  etc


Exactly right. And with social security fraud and driving misdemeanours being principle causes of the high incarceration the likes of you know who go on about, it just keeps on looking like a damn plot/
More like assault. Domestic assault. And sexual offences. You should be all over this Mothra, what with your opposition to domestic assault and rape. Yet you appear to be mitigating this behaviour  by attempting to portray their offending is minor. Its not, the statistics paint a very ugly picture of child abuse and sexual assault, the more remote the community the higher the offending. Recidivism is what causes the high incarceration rate, the fact they just keep committing  the same offences over and over. 


'driving misdemeanours'?  You sure about that?

Yo' godda link, bro?  You d' one got it all t' han', y' know... so SHOW US!

Social security fraud?  Have to be serious to be doing prison time.... maybe they need to look at land council fraud... you know - the ones where the assholes running the show steal from those supposed to benefit from it all...

Le's looka dis one, bro:-

"The most common offence/charge for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners was Acts intended to cause injury (34% or 4,071 prisoners) followed by Unlawful entry with intent (14% or 1,679 prisoners). The most common offences/charges for non-Indigenous prisoners were Illicit drug offences (20% or 6,288 prisoners) and Acts intended to cause injury (18% or 5,583 prisoners). "

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/4517.0~2018~Main%20...

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Probably driving without a license, driving while suspended, drink driving etc etc compounded to a a very long list. White people are locked up for it too. Had an aboriginal living behind us in Ettrick, escaped gaol with 3 drink drivings, numerous under suspensions. Wasn't a bad guy but thought he should be able to do anything and get away with it. He towed a mower from Toonumbah to Ettrick on the back of a motorbike, no bike license. He was incorrigible as he always got off with a slap on the wrist.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 7:11pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


You talking to yourself again, Smith?  Try answering the questions, dickhead.  Slagging others doesn't help your case in any way, and puts you in danger of self-harm to your account again - dickhead.

Whatever you're on, sonny - get off it.  It's doing terrible things to what was once your brain.


you're an idiot. According to you, if one was inclined to believe you, one with a high IQ, but an idiot nevertheless. What the farq do restrictions on ayers rock or beachside property near broome have to do with services to isolated communities? You're deliberately trying to muddy the waters because you are incapable of presenting a reasonable argument ... all that's left for you is rabid raving rants of a moron.
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Reply #167 - Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:43pm
 
Jasin wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


Better than an idiot who can't even come up with something more than just one line. I'll throw this one in just to show I can at least bring up 'two' - just to show you that you're still an idiot.
Oh hes been shown to be an idiot quite a few times in this thread already.
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you have no idea what was said in this thread rhino ...your comments prove it.
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Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron
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Sure you did John, Lol. Now you cant remember. You ran away a few times when the facile nature of your remarks was made evident. You really are the gift that keeps on giving.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 7:11pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


You talking to yourself again, Smith?  Try answering the questions, dickhead.  Slagging others doesn't help your case in any way, and puts you in danger of self-harm to your account again - dickhead.

Whatever you're on, sonny - get off it.  It's doing terrible things to what was once your brain.


you're an idiot. According to you, if one was inclined to believe you, one with a high IQ, but an idiot nevertheless. What the farq do restrictions on ayers rock or beachside property near broome have to do with services to isolated communities? You're deliberately trying to muddy the waters because you are incapable of presenting a reasonable argument ... all that's left for you is rabid raving rants of a moron.


Well - when you're talking about provision of services - and I did not even mention restrictions on Ayers Rock etc, but said that any move to create isolated communities would create problems for services - it's pretty obvious that unless you have the White Man's infrastructure in place to service remote communities and those that choose to self-isolate - you cannot have services such as emergency treatment and preventative medicine without excessive cost.

Since no government is going to provide such a costly service to cater to a few - perhaps your Isolationist Koons could pay for the services they receive???  User pays, innit?  they could catch and sell fish in their canoes and maybe bulldog a few goannas.... maybe set up a caravan park, a casino, a theme park, etc,  and cater to tourism ...... oh .... wait a minute........

I seriously wonder about your brain these days, smith - see a doctor - if there's one close by .....

Now - diminishing brain cells one - are you proposing that the taxpayer fund a fully staffed clinic and hospital along that proposed 40km of Broome coastline just to cater to the Indigenous who want to live there and be traditional, and make all other infrastructure and facilities available to them at taxpayer expense so they don't suffer any 'disadvantage' from their personal choice?

Do you propose that unlimited instant transport be made available out of taxpayer funds just in case Nugunnawalya gets bitten by a snake and needs to get to a doc toute de suite?  Maybe have a dedicated section of the Royal Flying Doctor Service standing by just in case, eh?  You got any idea what that costs?

Looks like Nugunnwalya's gonna die of snakebite first....

BTW - did the government bend over backwards to cater to and provide infrastructure for any hippy groups?  Or did they just make it on their own?

Now - DICKHEAD - how do YOU propose to go about 'providing services' to small remote communities?  With your mouth as usual - or do you have a real proposition to put forward?
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rhino wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron


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rhino wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron


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Setanta wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron


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Smith has a degenerative brain disease... it's showing signs and symptoms, and soon he might consult a doctor...


He'd probably call the doctor mad and continue on as he does. One should feel for people like him but it's so much fun to watch.
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Setanta wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 10:32pm:
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Setanta wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron


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Smith has a degenerative brain disease... it's showing signs and symptoms, and soon he might consult a doctor...


He'd probably call the doctor mad and continue on as he does. One should feel for people like him but it's so much fun to watch.


That's why I just joust with him.... it's such fun...
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How will this affect the BIG donations (bribes) by the Chinese to both federal and NSW Labor Parties ?
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How will this affect the BIG donations (bribes) by the Chinese to both federal and NSW Labor Parties ?


Fixed - no fee this time ...
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Sure you did John, Lol. Now you cant remember. You ran away a few times when the facile nature of your remarks was made evident. You really are the gift that keeps on giving.


again, all you are doing is proving you're a moron who has no idea what you've read.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 7:11pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
cods wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:38am:
in this case medical centres  at their fingertips..



is that really what they want cods, or is that what the likes of choo choo and Valkie claim they want?


How else are they going to access a GP at a moment's notice?  How else receive immediate emergency treatment, unless there is infrastructure in place?  How are the forty km of coastline handed over near Broome going to have those facilities and retain its pristine 'cultural' ways?  How is Ayers Rock to provide doctor stuff without infrastructure?

It's a hell of a long walk to a doctor without Whitey';s cars and such, let alone the fact that a few hour's drive might be the difference between life and death...

Then there are chronic problems and preventative medicine - how are those to be available everywhere?  Once a year visit from a roaming GP and nurse?

Good luck.....



god you're a blabbering idiot sometimes.


You talking to yourself again, Smith?  Try answering the questions, dickhead.  Slagging others doesn't help your case in any way, and puts you in danger of self-harm to your account again - dickhead.

Whatever you're on, sonny - get off it.  It's doing terrible things to what was once your brain.


you're an idiot. According to you, if one was inclined to believe you, one with a high IQ, but an idiot nevertheless. What the farq do restrictions on ayers rock or beachside property near broome have to do with services to isolated communities? You're deliberately trying to muddy the waters because you are incapable of presenting a reasonable argument ... all that's left for you is rabid raving rants of a moron.


Well - when you're talking about provision of services - and I did not even mention restrictions on Ayers Rock etc, but said that any move to create isolated communities would create problems for services - it's pretty obvious that unless you have the White Man's infrastructure in place to service remote communities and those that choose to self-isolate - you cannot have services such as emergency treatment and preventative medicine without excessive cost.

Since no government is going to provide such a costly service to cater to a few - perhaps your Isolationist Koons could pay for the services they receive???  User pays, innit?  they could catch and sell fish in their canoes and maybe bulldog a few goannas.... maybe set up a caravan park, a casino, a theme park, etc,  and cater to tourism ...... oh .... wait a minute........

I seriously wonder about your brain these days, smith - see a doctor - if there's one close by .....

Now - diminishing brain cells one - are you proposing that the taxpayer fund a fully staffed clinic and hospital along that proposed 40km of Broome coastline just to cater to the Indigenous who want to live there and be traditional, and make all other infrastructure and facilities available to them at taxpayer expense so they don't suffer any 'disadvantage' from their personal choice?

Do you propose that unlimited instant transport be made available out of taxpayer funds just in case Nugunnawalya gets bitten by a snake and needs to get to a doc toute de suite?  Maybe have a dedicated section of the Royal Flying Doctor Service standing by just in case, eh?  You got any idea what that costs?

Looks like Nugunnwalya's gonna die of snakebite first....

BTW - did the government bend over backwards to cater to and provide infrastructure for any hippy groups?  Or did they just make it on their own?

Now - DICKHEAD - how do YOU propose to go about 'providing services' to small remote communities?  With your mouth as usual - or do you have a real proposition to put forward?



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Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron


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Excellent comeback John after being totally destroyed a number of times and running away to hide your humiliation. Cheesy



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is that your high iq on display dopey? Grin Grin Grin
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I didnt declare myself the winner John, I simply accepted the white flag you offered. You threw your hands up and had a tanty after stating you knew nothing about what you were arguing about, you cant win this John, you are just too dumb to understand. Funny to watch though.
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Lol, you  are the one who spent 2 days arguing about something you admitted you know nothing about afterwards, now thats funny.


did nothing of the sort. Not my fault you're a moron


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He'd probably call the doctor mad and continue on as he does. One should feel for people like him but it's so much fun to watch.



nah, i don't go visit dopey doctors. I'll leave that for you and grap. You should have changed doctors when you realised your meds weren't working.
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I didnt declare myself the winner John, I simply accepted the white flag you offered. You threw your hands up and had a tanty after stating you knew nothing about what you were arguing about, you cant win this John, you are just too dumb to understand. Funny to watch though.


You really should re read what was said instead of continuing to embarrass yourself.
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so much waste goes on...its rife right though the whole of the Public Service..

That's what you get when Libs run the country.




of course no waste during the looooog 6 years of labor..

pinkbatts
BER
green loans..just to name a few...

none at all...hilarious.

None of those are the Public Service. But since you're straying from the public service ...

No waste during the 17 looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong years of the Libs (and counting) since Howard ... really?  Roll Eyes

AWB scandal ($390 million)
Serco (outsourcing that costs 25% more than employing directly through the APS)
Jobactive and DES ($3 billion a year)
Refundable franking credits for non-tax payers ($5 billion each year and growing unsustainably)
Private health insurance rebate ($6 billion a year and growing unsustainably faster than CPI for 20 years)
Paladin ($20 million a month to a shady company running out of a beach shack)
GBR Foundation ($440 million)
Indue ($12,000 per person)
Direct Action plan (over $2 billion)
Various other examples of crony CORRUPTION
Self promotion before elections (Nearly $1 billion since 2005)
Incarcerating innocent people on remote islands ($1500 a day each)

Oh yes ... the Coalition are the masters of wasteful spending and blatant corruption.
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It will make drug transactions tricky.

And what about the illegal political donations from the Unions to the slimy GetUp! the fraudulent Political Propaganda Arm of the Labor Party ?

And what about the Chinese bribes to the Labor Party ?
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juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:20am:
It will make drug transactions tricky.


You buy your drugs from a business with an ABN, do you?

"The laws would apply to all payments made to businesses with an ABN for goods or services, affecting major purchases like cars, boats, housing and building renovations.

"The Government has said the measure would not apply to individual-to-individual transactions, such as private sales where the seller does not have an ABN, or cash payments to financial institutions."


If brains were electricity, you'd be a walking blackout.

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It is a bad government proposal when Hanson and One Nation are appearing more sensible than the government.
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One Nation says it will vote against the bill

But One Nation has already indicated it would vote against the Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill.

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Senator Pauline Hanson said on her Facebook page the party was against the bill.

"Effectively, if you are a person who keeps cash and uses it to buy a new small car, for example, you will face the real threat of two years in jail and a fine that would likely exceed the value of the vehicle," Ms Hanson said in the Facebook post.

One Nation was also worried it would leave people's bank deposits vulnerable to negative interest rates — whereby instead of receiving money on deposits, depositors must pay regularly to keep their money with the bank.

"Flushing 'Mattress Money' out of the shadows and back into bank accounts will leave deposits vulnerable to negative interest rates, prompting those with savings to spend the cash on investments or consumption items," Ms Hanson said.

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Sounds like Gweggy is still recovering. Wine is wonderful.
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Reply #194 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:22am
 
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:16am:
Sounds like Gweggy is still recovering. Wine is wonderful.


What sort of drugs are you buying, and from whom?

$10,000+ is a lot of money to spend on drugs, and it's a bit strange to be buying them from someone with an ABN.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:22am:
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:16am:
Sounds like Gweggy is still recovering. Wine is wonderful.


What sort of drugs are you buying, and from whom?

$10,000+ is a lot of money to spend on drugs, and it's a bit strange to be buying them from someone with an ABN.

Cocaine parties at the Young Libs are expensive.
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Bammy is back on his favorite subject. Wonder if that is why he is so angry and a bit strange ?
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Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:22am:
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:16am:
Sounds like Gweggy is still recovering. Wine is wonderful.


What sort of drugs are you buying, and from whom?

$10,000+ is a lot of money to spend on drugs, and it's a bit strange to be buying them from someone with an ABN.

Cocaine parties at the Young Libs are expensive.


Yeah, I suppose you're right.

I wonder who the supplier with the ABN is.

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Reply #198 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:55am
 
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:46am:
Bammy is back on his favorite subject.

The Young Libs are a hotbed of drug taking.

We know you like doing drugs.

juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:16am:
Wine is wonderful.

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Reply #199 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:56am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:48am:
Bam wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:39am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:22am:
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:16am:
Sounds like Gweggy is still recovering. Wine is wonderful.


What sort of drugs are you buying, and from whom?

$10,000+ is a lot of money to spend on drugs, and it's a bit strange to be buying them from someone with an ABN.

Cocaine parties at the Young Libs are expensive.


Yeah, I suppose you're right.

I wonder who the supplier with the ABN is.



Greg hunt?

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John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 5:40pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 5:38pm:
I didnt declare myself the winner John, I simply accepted the white flag you offered. You threw your hands up and had a tanty after stating you knew nothing about what you were arguing about, you cant win this John, you are just too dumb to understand. Funny to watch though.


You really should re read what was said instead of continuing to embarrass yourself.

Not as embarrassing as arguing about something for 2 days you then stated you knew nothing about. Grin
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The Lefty hexspurts don't seem to have read the actual document.

It is all about catching the black economy like China bribing the Labor Party.


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juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
The Lefty hexspurts don't seem to have read the actual document.

It is all about catching the black economy like China bribing the Labor Party.


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That's what they may be saying but it's about a cashless society and negative interest rates.

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Sir S how do you work that out ? Bit of imagination ?
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Now for a dose of reality.

What about garage sales and people who can't afford a credit card ?




Australia’s path to a cashless society is accelerating and inevitable. Australia fast becoming a cashless society.
Michael Pascoe 12:01am, Jul 1, 2018 Updated: 12:12pm, Jul 1

Cash payments under $10,000 almost halved between 2007 and 2016. Photo: Getty


Last week, three out of four Swedes didn’t use cash to buy anything. The country is going cashless so fast, it’s starting to worry the central bank.

Sweden is the world’s most cashless country. But we’re catching up.

The word is we’re five or six years behind the Swedes and closing. Australian consumers’ use of cash has already more than halved in the past decade.

Where once it was common to see “cash only” signs in shops, “no cash” warnings are on the rise. It happened to me on Saturday night at the rugby – the car park only accepted plastic.

ABC Sydney radio’s whimsical afternoon host, James Valentine, caused me to go in search of numbers to check his observation that cash was disappearing.

Valentine realised he had pretty much stopped bothering to carry old-fashioned money and that it had become a big issue for the Big Issue – sales are falling as more people going cashless. Fewer potential customers have what it takes to buy the magazine from street vendors.

The international experience says vendors will need machines to accept plastic, which can be a bit of a technological challenge for the homeless. At the extreme, there’s the story of the Beijing beggar with a QR code.

The tax man loves the idea of Australia going cashless. Once a transaction is recorded, it can be found and taxed. Indeed, this year’s budget included the announcement that cash payments of more than $10,000 would be banned.

The trouble arises primarily for people who haven’t taken to online/mobile/embedded-chip-in-your-ear-or-whatever banking – primarily the old, but also those on society’s fringes.

This is what’s worrying the Swedes, that older people will be excluded from parts of the economy. The central bank is concerned banks and merchants are getting ahead of the population in ditching cash.

It also has warned about the danger of a cashless society in the event of “war or other catastrophe”.

Recent local bank computer failures have already shown up the problem of being too reliant on money you can’t hold in your hand.


Beyond the anecdotes, up-to-date hard data on the demise of cash transactions here is surprisingly rare. The best available is a survey the Reserve Bank conducts every three years that charts the folding stuff’s fall.

When Kevin Rudd was elected prime minister in 2007, 69 per cent of consumer payments under $10,000 were by cash. When Julia Gillard won the Lodge keys in 2010, it was 62 per cent. Tony Abbott’s election coincided with a sharp fall to 47 per cent. For Malcolm Turnbull in 2016, it was down to just 37 per cent.

Given the trend, it’s a reasonable guess we’d be barely holding 30 per cent today.

Another indication of cash’s decline is ATM activity. In April, we collectively went to the ATM 47,286,000 times and withdrew $10.45 billion. In April 2008, we punched in our PINs 70,581,000 times to withdraw $12.14 billion.

As cash has fallen, plastic’s share of consumer payments has doubled. Debit and credit cards had 26 per cent of our business in 2007 and 52 per cent in 2016.

By value rather than number, the Reserve Bank estimates we used plastic to pay for $250 billion worth of stuff in 2007 and $496 billion in 2016. Cash payments over that time went from $218 billion to $162 billion.

And it’s early days here for both the mobile phone systems that rule the cashless register in China, and the Australia’s own New Payments Platform for simplified real-time transfers.

As for cheques – I suppose I should explain: They were things that came in a book and you wrote out the payee’s name and amount and … oh, never mind. Their use in 2016 was a fifth of what it was in 2007 and it wasn’t all that much then.

Most curiously, while we’re using cash less, we are keeping more of it somewhere – perhaps under the bed. The value of notes in circulation has been rising steadily by about six per cent a year.

The RBA suspects foreign visitors and migrant communities might be accounting for much of the recent rise.

Furthermore, the 2016 survey found we were carrying a little more cash in our wallets – $101 on average – even though we’re using less. Looks like they didn’t survey James Valentine.

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juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 5:33pm:
Sir S how do you work that out ? Bit of imagination ?


read the article in the op

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juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Now for a dose of reality.

What about garage sales ... ?




I'll explain it to you again, but this time I'll type slowly so you can keep up:

"The Government has said the measure would not apply to individual-to-individual transactions, such as private sales where the seller does not have an ABN, or cash payments to financial institutions."
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Reply #208 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 12:04pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
The Lefty hexspurts don't seem to have read the actual document.

It is all about catching the black economy like China bribing the Labor Party.


https://i.postimg.cc/02p4dNjm/Capture10000.png


Why not reduce the threshold where all donations have to be declared to the AEC, say anything above $1000 if political donations are an issue....The Coalition are the party who don't want anything below $10 000 declared....Why is that if openness and accountability is being eroded by third parties and vested interests???

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