Ninemsn 24th July 2019

Three convicted terrorists will spend more than a decade each behind bars for firebombing a Melbourne mosque in an attack motivated by hate, intolerance and malevolence.
Ahmed Mohamed and Abdullah Chaarani attempted once to burn the Imam Ali Islamic Centre at Fawkner in November 2016, before succeeding in a second attempt a month later, helped by Hatim Moukhaiber.
Mohamed and Chaarani must serve at least 17 years of a 22-year sentence, while Moukhaiber will be eligible for parole after 12 years of his maximum 16-year prison term.

The trio was found guilty by a jury in May.
The trial lasted for weeks, with Mohamed and Moukhaiber denying any involvement and Chaarani admitting he took part but claiming it was part of a protest, not terrorism.
"He did so with the intention of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause, namely the advancement of Sunni Islam," Chaarani's lawyer said during the trial.
Mohamed and Chaarani have since apologised for their crimes and rejected Islamic State ideology during a pre-sentence plea hearing.
Moukhaiber did not consider himself to be radicalised, his barrister said previously.
© AAP 2019

Ahmed Mohamed, Abdullah Chaarani and Hatim Moukhaiber burned down the Fawkner mosque in December 2016, following a failed attempt by Mohamed and Chaarani the previous month.

Through his lawyer Chaarani admitted his role but claimed it wasn’t an act of terrorism but instead an act of protest or dissent.

“Your defence Chaarani was optimistic, burgeoning on entirely fanciful,” Justice Tinney said.

He said Chaarani submitted a well-written three page letter to the court expressing his “sorrow, shame and disgust” for the “cowardly action”.

He said Chaarani and Mohamed through their lawyers made public renunciations of Islamic State.

In a letter to the court Mohamed described his path to radicalisation and said his time in prison had helped him interact with people of many backgrounds and faiths.

Justice Tinney said Mohamed also thanked God for his guidance and showing Mohamed his wrongs before it was too late.

Justice Tinney described the letters and material submitted as “unconvincing, contrived and self-serving”.

He said Moukhaiber denied he had been radicalised.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/melbourne-mosque-terror-trio-jailed/news...

Ahmed Mohammed?  WHere did I hear that name before? Oh, yes, the little home made bomb-maker who said it was just a clock. Name is fate, what?  Ahmed Mohammed - what can go right??

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:


I know.

I've been watching the comments, and laughing my arse off.

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:


Indeed.

These guys did exactly what the right-wing extremists dream about, and yet they're condemning them.

I don't think they actually read the article.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2019 at 8:50pm:


Not in this country, Bobby Sox.

The premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners is just as bad as terrorism.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:
islamic terrorism is islamic terrorism pecca. the victim is irrelevent.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 10:10am:

This one did like a bunch of others that have occurred recently in Australia. This one flew under the medias radar for some reason???

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 10:12am:


Really?   I suppose it was missed by Woman's Day and New Idea, Hammer.  The serious media OTOH has been paying it the right amount of attention since it happened.  I remember posting a link to the original event when it happened.  Tsk, tsk, you must have been away, "inside" on a "holiday" then, right?   

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 1:38pm:


So, it didn't fly under the radar at all.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 1:47pm:


Keep up, Jocko. It's the other way around.

The white dudes hardly ever make the news.

The majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white, non-Muslim dudes - usually white supremacists.

However, you hardly ever see them on the news.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 1:55pm:


See, you've just proven my point.

You mistakenly believe that, because it's Muslims you see in the media, but it's non-Muslims who are actually doing the most.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 2:06pm:


Terrorism is terrorism.

Unlike you, I condemn it all.

The reason behind it, the colour of their skin, their nationality, their religion, etc. is irrelevant to me.

rhino wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

Reminds me that Christianity is a pile of 1st century superstitious crap.

Christianity is responsible for Millions of rapes tortures and murders globally in the last 2000 odd years.

Loony Rightards pick some strange bedfellows.   

People are either followers or leaders.

Pretty much self explanatory.

I create a post (leader)

Moses copies and tries to make his loony Rightard ideology a part of my original post. (follower)

Being a follower is a Rightard trait, they have no ability to think for themselves, they are desperate to have their self loathing views made compulsory.

Just look at the world today, Rightard ignorance has proved to be a failure, our society is showing some severe strains, I wonder how long we will have to endure it before we ask ourselves why are the loony Rightards so self loathing and determined to destroy us from within?   

right on cue our loony leftard comes like a chook that has been called.

A classic example of a follower.

Right on cue our loony Rightard comes like a chook that has been called.

A classic example of a follower.   

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:



That's because you are a mindless, spineless, insufferable bugger fool, Bwian.  Been telling you for years, me an a cast of thousands, but do you get it??!! Do you get ANYTHING? bugger NOOO!!!

Being a mindless, balloon filled with only resentment and otherwise unmoored, bobbing  in a moral vacuum IS who you ARE, Bwian.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 5:21pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me and you still claim you're not a Racist, Hammer?  Really?

Cultural change, "racial" change - they occur naturally, when ever there are not false barriers put in front of them.  You need to learn to live with them, to tolerate them, Hammer.  "Race" is a social construct anyway, created in the 19th century to allow Europeans to oppress people of other "races" based on a false belief that different "races" were well, different, physically.  Genetics has shown that "race" in the way Racists use the term doesn't exist.  We all share the same genes, we are all members of the one race, the human one and that is something you need to understand and to accept.  You are being simply a fool it believe otherwise, Hammer.   Tsk, tsk.   

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Very apt Pecca, thats me sh!ting all over you on this forum constantly.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 24^th, 2019 at 6:36pm:


Must be getting close to the Tarrant tally now, Homo. What is it?

2 to 50?

rhino wrote on Jul 25^th, 2019 at 11:38pm:


Genes determine who we are, Rhino.  We all share the same genetic pool.  We have more genetic differences within each "racial" group rather than between them.  This is scientific fact.  All the Mongolian Spot is referring to is a common physical trait which exists in people of darker skin, in Africa, India, Central and Eastern Asia.   It is superficial and it disappears by puberty in most cases.   Yet again, you betray the Racists' propensity to ascribe an individual's intelligence or cultural differences to superficial physical traits.   

A person's Melanin has nothing to do with an individual's intelligence or criminality or anything else, except their ability to absorb UV rays from sunlight.  A person's eye shape simply shows that their ancestors were once adapted to living in an area prone to dust storms and so on and so on.   Physical anthropology is merely a method of describing an individual's physical inheritance, it does nothing to talk about their intelligence, their culture or anything which is what is usually used in Racism.   

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2019 at 2:46pm:


No, it does not.  There is evidence of "Mongolian Spot" existing in several "races", proving that it is a common trait which exists across the so-called "racial divide".   Melanin is important to the concept of "race" as used by Racists.   It is used as a prime determiner of intelligence and other traits, when in reality all it indicates is where an individual's ancestors evolved - lighter skinned people in the far northern climes where less sunlight is available for Vitamin D production as against tropical climes where there is more than sufficient UV available for Vitamin D production.   Your claims are akin to those that believe that Sickle-cell Anaemia only occurs in Black Africans or Alcohol intolerance only accurs amongst Asians, when in reality both occur across all "Races".   

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:


I never claimed you had, Rhino.  Please keep up with what is actually being typed, rather than what you imagined is being typed.   Mongolian Spots don't occur in White people - agreed however, they do occur in those "races" with darker skin - African, Indian, Asian, Polynesian, Native American.   All which are identified as separate "races" by Racists.   Why not address that point instead of inventing things which were never claimed, hey?   

moses wrote on Jul 26^th, 2019 at 6:12pm:


And who was the Terrorists attacking again, Moses?  Mmmm?  Could they have been fellow Muslims?   I thought you believe all Muslims were united and equally evil...   

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2019 at 7:30pm:




Oh, dearie, dearie, face first into the mud again, hey, Soren?  Keep it up, it is amusing to watch.  Tell us when you've worked out the physical versus the cultural things, OK?   

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2019 at 10:49am:



Which Australian mosques have been blown up, FD?

I'm curious.

Two convicted terrorists who plotted a Christmas Day attack on Federation Square have also been found guilty of fire bombing a Melbourne mosque along with a third man.

Abdullah Chaarani, Ahmed Mohamed and Hatim Moukhaiber were on Thursday found guilty of engaging in a terror act for burning the Imam Ali Islamic Centre at Fawkner in December 2016.

Chaarani admitting he took part but claimed it was part of a protest, not terrorism.

"He did so with the intention of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause, namely the advancement of Sunni Islam," Chaarani's lawyer said during the trial.

But the prosecution successfully convinced jurors the fire bombing was a terror act and all three were involved.

I dunno F.D. how you managed to think this was a muzzie bombing attack, just because the prosecution and most people are calling it a *firebombing* terrorist act.

You have to be really careful or the loony left / *moderate* duo will get into you for being so loose with your *interpretation*, of this islamic terrorist act on Australian soil.

oooh goody - a semantic debate about the difference between 'starting a fire' and 'fire bombing'... the intellectual stimulation never stops here

It's the intellectual attempts of the loony Rightards who are telling us that the lighting of a fire (the prosecutors words) is really a bomb or some such rubbish. Then again it's coming from apologists for Christian terrorism, so I suppose we can expect pure bullshit from them.