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Jul 15th, 2019 at 7:44pm
 
Our PM shared a stage with him.

Last year, a Royal Commission found that a Pentecostal leader covered up the abuse of a seven-year-old. Scott Morrison wilfully shared a stage with him. His apathy toward victims is painfully clear.

On July 5, Prime Minister Scott Morrison and his wife Jenny stood on a stage beside Pastor Brian Houston, a Pentecostal religious leader censured last year by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sex Abuse for covering up the sexual abuse of a seven-year-old boy, abuse that continued for five years. The occasion was a Hillsong church conference, and Morrison used the opportunity to call for more love in Australia, and less judgement. Morrison has a long association with Brian Houston and described him in his maiden speech to parliament as his mentor.

The abuse concealed from authorities by Houston was perpetrated by his father, Frank now deceased, also a pastor and a founder of the Hillsong church. The Royal Commission found that Houston the younger failed to follow the church’s own protocol on the abuse of children, did not support the victim, and failed to notify police of his father’s crimes. Indeed, Houston is reported to have told the victim it was his own fault for “coming on to” Frank.

In the last six months two former Liberal Prime Ministers, John Howard and Tony Abbott, publicly demonstrated their support for convicted child sex abuser Cardinal George Pell. This support included a glowing character reference to the court from Howard, and phone calls from Abbott to Pell in jail. Abbott also declared that Pell’s conviction was a “devastating result” for Catholics. Abbott has a long relationship with Pell, whom he has described as his “colleague and mentor.”

It  is somewhat unnerving that three Liberal Prime Ministers have sought the counsel of men who are deeply involved in the sexual abuse of children, either as the perpetrator, protector of the perpetrator, or in Pell’s case, both. What is even more unnerving is that not one of the three Prime Ministers has seen fit to distance himself from the accused men, despite the allegations being proven in the case of Pell, and admitted in the case of Houston. None of the Prime Ministers appears to have the slightest compunction about acknowledging their long and ongoing personal relationships with these men, for whom they continue to profess admiration, respect and esteem.

Indeed, so comfortable with his mentor is Scott Morrison that he and his wife publicly prayed with him at a televised event.

What this deliberately public support implies is that the Prime Ministers do not believe the victims, or perhaps, even worse, they do believe the victims, but regard the crimes committed against them as irrelevant. Let’s not forget these are Prime Ministers we’re talking about, the leading legislators in the country. All three of them admit to having sought advice, political and spiritual, two from Pell and one from Houston.

If the leader of your country consorts with those who have committed or concealed child sexual abuse, how can your country ever be safe for you? The Prime Ministers have given permission for anyone to disbelieve you, and this leads us into a narrative with which survivors are heartbreakingly familiar.

A tone is set by the Prime Ministers. It becomes the zeitgeist. It says, powerful men or men embraced by powerful men can do anything they like, and it will be overlooked. This is the belief of our time, a belief that is evident far beyond the circumstances of child sexual abuse, but is perhaps most horrifyingly distilled in that specific circumstance.

According to this report, police re-opened their investigation into Houston’s handling of the sex crimes committed by his father in 2018. It is simply not credible to think that the Morrisons are unaware of this situation. They choose to overlook it. We watch as our Prime Minister and his wife worship with a man who concealed sexual crimes against small children.

The friendship, trust and very public support of a Prime Minister, current or past, are powerful weapons of normalisation. In standing side by side with Brian Houston, Scott and Jenny Morrison have resoundingly contributed to the normalisation of Houston’s failure to properly act against a perpetrator of sexual crimes.

Sadly, we seem to lack any political voice powerful enough to challenge this moral collapse.
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Reply #1 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 7:53pm
 
Sadly......Morrison will walk from that unscathed unless the Opposition/Media pursue it with determination.
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Reply #2 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:22pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
Sadly......Morrison will walk from that unscathed unless the Opposition/Media pursue it with determination.


.. and will speak in tongues when questioned over the issue......

"He's not my type"........ Cool  Cool  Cool
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Reply #3 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm
 
who really cares as Scomo's job is to make Australia big and strong and powerful.
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Reply #4 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:24pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
who really cares as Scomo's job is to make Australia big and strong and powerful.



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Pastor Brian Houston, a Pentecostal religious leader censured last year by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sex Abuse for covering up the sexual abuse of a seven-year-old boy, abuse that continued for five years.


The 7 year old boy, his family and anyone else who is disgusted by the churches behaviour to child sexual abuse care....Nothing has changed!!!

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Reply #5 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:17am
 
juliar wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
who really cares as Scomo's job is to make Australia big and strong and powerful.


We all know you are nothing but a Liberal troll, but seriously 'who really cares?'

How does worshipping with a man who not only covered up child abuse but blamed the victim for coming on to his father make Australia big and strong and powerful?
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Reply #6 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:31am
 

Evil man.


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Reply #8 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:57am
 
Why would a deviant's sins have anything to do with Morrison ?


You people are desperate


Would you like me to start posting lists … endless lists …. of jewish rabbis who've molested, raped, beaten and killed children of not only their own but other religions ?


because I will …


but be ready for a very long read


So stop being so see through and pathetically desperate



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Reply #9 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:24am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:52am:


He's a disgrace to Christianity.


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And so are the rest of those happy clappers.
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Reply #10 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:27am
 
Greg

how much are the globalists paying for this forum?

How much are they paying you to demonstrate how 'clever' you are by posting as several dozen 'members' simultaneously ?


because I'm at the point where I believe this forum should reap some international and national attention


which would mean ......


even MORE attention for greggie !


so why not get your flares and paisley shirts drycleaned for your televised outing ?

FY NAL EEEEEE ..... stardom !



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Reply #11 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:28am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:27am:
Greg

how much are the globalists paying for this forum?

How much are they paying you to demonstrate how 'clever' you are by posting as several dozen 'members' simultaneously ?


because I'm at the point where I believe this forum should reap some international and national attention


which would mean ......


even MORE attention for greggie !


so why not get your flares and paisley shirts drycleaned for your televised outing ?

FY NAL EEEEEE ..... stardom !







You're quite unstable, aren't you.
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Reply #12 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:53am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
Why would a deviant's sins have anything to do with Morrison ?


You people are desperate


Would you like me to start posting lists … endless lists …. of jewish rabbis who've molested, raped, beaten and killed children of not only their own but other religions ?


because I will …


but be ready for a very long read


So stop being so see through and pathetically desperate





Go ahead, anybody who commits such crimes against children need to be exposed.

Just as people like Morrison, a man in a powerfull position who is giving at the very least tacit approval of this man by sharing a stage with him, should be called out on it.

A good man will always strive to do good and an evil man will always try to do evil.

But to make a good man do evil things, that takes religion.
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Reply #13 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:06am
 
Raven wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:53am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
Why would a deviant's sins have anything to do with Morrison ?


You people are desperate


Would you like me to start posting lists … endless lists …. of jewish rabbis who've molested, raped, beaten and killed children of not only their own but other religions ?


because I will …


but be ready for a very long read


So stop being so see through and pathetically desperate





Go ahead, anybody who commits such crimes against children need to be exposed.

Just as people like Morrison, a man in a powerfull position who is giving at the very least tacit approval of this man by sharing a stage with him, should be called out on it.

A good man will always strive to do good and an evil man will always try to do evil.

But to make a good man do evil things, that takes religion.


Ok .... so what are you waiting for?

Get cracking


all the jews in the sewer and throughout the membership here should be able to help you in that


instead of droning on and on and on against muslims ... for example


and now against pentacostals


you're all out of work

non employed

or on welfare

or paid to 'study your religion'


which is why you all have so much time to devote to driving wedges throughout every corner of society


EXCEPT YOUR OWN

so start pulling out those hidden files of jewish depravity against children, for one


and  you can start, can't you, by identifying the 'baby faced killer' pervert who is so exhausted by his jail sex marathons that he can't fall out of his prison bed in the morning

i notice you got rid of that thread quick smart



then you can move on to that repulsive jew bitch mother of eight headmistress girl rapist who's been hiding out in israel for years while filthy looking rabbis with moth eaten beards screeech in teh court that she's not well enough to be extradited to Australia to face the charges


go on


get cracking  !!!
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Reply #14 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:20am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:06am:
Raven wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:53am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
Why would a deviant's sins have anything to do with Morrison ?


You people are desperate


Would you like me to start posting lists … endless lists …. of jewish rabbis who've molested, raped, beaten and killed children of not only their own but other religions ?


because I will …


but be ready for a very long read


So stop being so see through and pathetically desperate





Go ahead, anybody who commits such crimes against children need to be exposed.

Just as people like Morrison, a man in a powerfull position who is giving at the very least tacit approval of this man by sharing a stage with him, should be called out on it.

A good man will always strive to do good and an evil man will always try to do evil.

But to make a good man do evil things, that takes religion.


Ok .... so what are you waiting for?

Get cracking


all the jews in the sewer and throughout the membership here should be able to help you in that


instead of droning on and on and on against muslims ... for example


and now against pentacostals


you're all out of work

non employed

or on welfare

or paid to 'study your religion'


which is why you all have so much time to devote to driving wedges throughout every corner of society


EXCEPT YOUR OWN

so start pulling out those hidden files of jewish depravity against children, for one


and  you can start, can't you, by identifying the 'baby faced killer' pervert who is so exhausted by his jail sex marathons that he can't fall out of his prison bed in the morning

i notice you got rid of that thread quick smart



then you can move on to that repulsive jew bitch mother of eight headmistress girl rapist who's been hiding out in israel for years while filthy looking rabbis with moth eaten beards screeech in teh court that she's not well enough to be extradited to Australia to face the charges


go on


get cracking  !!!


Going the Jews in this one.

It's all happening.
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Reply #15 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:23am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:20am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:06am:
Raven wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:53am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
Why would a deviant's sins have anything to do with Morrison ?


You people are desperate


Would you like me to start posting lists … endless lists …. of jewish rabbis who've molested, raped, beaten and killed children of not only their own but other religions ?


because I will …


but be ready for a very long read


So stop being so see through and pathetically desperate





Go ahead, anybody who commits such crimes against children need to be exposed.

Just as people like Morrison, a man in a powerfull position who is giving at the very least tacit approval of this man by sharing a stage with him, should be called out on it.

A good man will always strive to do good and an evil man will always try to do evil.

But to make a good man do evil things, that takes religion.


Ok .... so what are you waiting for?

Get cracking


all the jews in the sewer and throughout the membership here should be able to help you in that


instead of droning on and on and on against muslims ... for example


and now against pentacostals


you're all out of work

non employed

or on welfare

or paid to 'study your religion'


which is why you all have so much time to devote to driving wedges throughout every corner of society


EXCEPT YOUR OWN

so start pulling out those hidden files of jewish depravity against children, for one


and  you can start, can't you, by identifying the 'baby faced killer' pervert who is so exhausted by his jail sex marathons that he can't fall out of his prison bed in the morning

i notice you got rid of that thread quick smart



then you can move on to that repulsive jew bitch mother of eight headmistress girl rapist who's been hiding out in israel for years while filthy looking rabbis with moth eaten beards screeech in teh court that she's not well enough to be extradited to Australia to face the charges


go on


get cracking  !!!


Going the Jews in this one.

It's all happening.


I might have to release some more socks.

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Reply #16 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:27am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:06am:
Raven wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 9:53am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 8:57am:
Why would a deviant's sins have anything to do with Morrison ?


You people are desperate


Would you like me to start posting lists … endless lists …. of jewish rabbis who've molested, raped, beaten and killed children of not only their own but other religions ?


because I will …


but be ready for a very long read


So stop being so see through and pathetically desperate





Go ahead, anybody who commits such crimes against children need to be exposed.

Just as people like Morrison, a man in a powerfull position who is giving at the very least tacit approval of this man by sharing a stage with him, should be called out on it.

A good man will always strive to do good and an evil man will always try to do evil.

But to make a good man do evil things, that takes religion.


Ok .... so what are you waiting for?

Get cracking


all the jews in the sewer and throughout the membership here should be able to help you in that


instead of droning on and on and on against muslims ... for example


and now against pentacostals


Tell you what since you have such a head start on us about the atrocities committed against children by Jews why don't you start a thread on it and we can all add to it, wouldn't want to repeat ourselves.

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you're all out of work

non employed

or on welfare

or paid to 'study your religion'


which is why you all have so much time to devote to driving wedges throughout every corner of society


EXCEPT YOUR OWN


Raven isn't a Jew.

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so start pulling out those hidden files of jewish depravity against children, for one


and  you can start, can't you, by identifying the 'baby faced killer' pervert who is so exhausted by his jail sex marathons that he can't fall out of his prison bed in the morning

i notice you got rid of that thread quick smart


What are you talking about?

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then you can move on to that repulsive jew bitch mother of eight headmistress girl rapist who's been hiding out in israel for years while filthy looking rabbis with moth eaten beards screeech in teh court that she's not well enough to be extradited to Australia to face the charges


go on


get cracking  !!!


Ohh that's a good one to start your thread with.
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Reply #17 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:34am
 
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“I read about another rapist rabbi and I can’t function”


Dear Rabbonim,
I come to you with a mixture of pain, anguish and anger. I’ve heard about yet another very big “Rav” who is leading a double life.

To everyone on the outside he extolls the virtues of Yiddishkeit and the Torah and behind closed doors he’s a serial rapist. He abuses the innocent and vulnerable girls and women that come to him for shailos and guidance.

It’s two days after I heard about this and I’m still in shock. I literally can’t function. How can someone who claims to be so close to Hashem and purports to have emunah, stoop to such an extreme low, to transgress (time and time again) one of the three gravest sins of the entire Torah.

What bothers me even more, is when these allegations come to light, the rabbonim in town just lay low and choose to ignore these heinous crimes

At worst, the victim will either commit suicide or go off the derech and at best they would live their life as a frum Jew but everyday would be a struggle to get through the day. Every day would be a new battle necessitating new gear to plow through yet another day of the devastating effects of abuse. Another day of triggers and flashbacks that have such extreme power.

I know this battle because I’m a soldier fighting in its war  every single day. No, I didn’t end my life. No, I didn’t go off the derech. No, I didn’t get into drugs or other pain numbing behaviors. Instead I chose to fight the battles head on. They don’t stop and don’t get easier. It takes years and years until there is a slightly noticeable difference in the severity of the battles. Yes, every day is a battle as there is not a day that goes by that I don’t struggle from my childhood abuse.

o I ask you, where are you all? Where are you hiding? Why are you laying so very low?

I see you at all the parlor meetings for Yeshivos and at the events collecting money for young orphans. We abuse victims are orphans. We lost our childhood. We lost our innocence. We lost our sense of trust and safety in the world. And now we are losing our sense of respect for you all. It hurts me to say this but this is how I feel and this is how so many other victims that I’ve spoken to feel.

Why is it that with every story that I hear about, I keep finding the same thing, that it was going on for years and nothing was done about it despite the fact that many of you knew about it

If you rabbonim don’t want to do anything, then why don’t we install video cameras in every Rav’s study? There’s a rule in the medical profession that if a male doctor needs to do an exam on a woman, they need another person in the room as a witness to appropriate conduct. What makes todays rabbonim “stronger” than these doctors. How can they be trusted to be in a room alone with women all day long? Just because an individual knows Halacha, it is hardly a safeguard against the worst inclinations of humanity.

If I tell you that the chief of police told me that if I would know all the cover ups that go on in our community I would run away, would that shake you up? Well, it shook me up and I think it should shake you out of your paralyzed state well. When will you make it your business to educate yourselves? When will you care about us victims and stop feeling bad for the reputation and families of the abusers?



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Reply #18 - Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:40am
 
Imagine you have a seven year old child who was raped in your church by a person you thought you could trust. Not only that but the current leader of your church not only covered up the abuse but blamed your seven year old child for seducing the rapist.

Then you see the leader of your country smile and lead a prayer session with that very same person while talking about love, standing next to the man who covered up such a hateful act.

What message does that send to the community? Child abuse is ok as long as you are a member of the right religion?

By refusing to distance himself from this man who Morrison refers to as his mentor, in fact to continue to consort with him, the PM is saying to child abuse victims that we don't believe you.
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JUDAISM’S PEDOPHILIA BEGINS WITH RABBI BEN YOHAI


Yeshiva University in New York City is the latest Jewish educational institution to be rocked by accusations of extensive pedophilia by rabbis and teachers.

Yeshiva, including an elite high school, the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, the Benjamin N. Cardoza School of Law, and an endowment of nearly 1.3 billion dollars is the Harvard of Orthodox Judaism in America. 

But now 31 former high school and Yeshiva affiliate students allege sexual abuse by two highly respected Yeshiva rabbis during 1969-1989.

They are suing Yeshiva U. for 380 million dollars.

“Yeshiva University High School held itself out as an exemplary Jewish secondary school when in fact it was allowing known sexual predators to roam the school at will seeking other victims,” said attorney for the plaintiffs, Kevin Mulhearn.

Mulhearn asserts that hundreds of boys were sexually molested or sodomized.

Typically, as with other Jewish child abuse scandals in Brooklyn, Sydney, Melbourne, Jerusalem, etc., Yeshiva’s administration is evasive. As a result, AIG (American Insurance Group) may not continue insuring it.

Why do Jewish authority figures continue to be accused of pedophilia against primarily Jewish children?

The Talmud, highest authority for modern Talmudic Judaism, endorses pedophilia. It calls it “Halachah” or binding Jewish law! [/quote]


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PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:42am:
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JUDAISM’S PEDOPHILIA BEGINS WITH RABBI BEN YOHAI


Yeshiva University in New York City is the latest Jewish educational institution to be rocked by accusations of extensive pedophilia by rabbis and teachers.

Yeshiva, including an elite high school, the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, the Benjamin N. Cardoza School of Law, and an endowment of nearly 1.3 billion dollars is the Harvard of Orthodox Judaism in America. 

But now 31 former high school and Yeshiva affiliate students allege sexual abuse by two highly respected Yeshiva rabbis during 1969-1989.

They are suing Yeshiva U. for 380 million dollars.

“Yeshiva University High School held itself out as an exemplary Jewish secondary school when in fact it was allowing known sexual predators to roam the school at will seeking other victims,” said attorney for the plaintiffs, Kevin Mulhearn.

Mulhearn asserts that hundreds of boys were sexually molested or sodomized.

Typically, as with other Jewish child abuse scandals in Brooklyn, Sydney, Melbourne, Jerusalem, etc., Yeshiva’s administration is evasive. As a result, AIG (American Insurance Group) may not continue insuring it.

Why do Jewish authority figures continue to be accused of pedophilia against primarily Jewish children?

The Talmud, highest authority for modern Talmudic Judaism, endorses pedophilia. It calls it “Halachah” or binding Jewish law!



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Excellent work.

Would you mind putting them into their own thread so we don't clog up debate about our PMs tacit approval of child abuse in his religion.
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With ben Yohai’s authority in mind, Yebamoth 60b presents a succession of the most authoritative rabbis, who conclude that just as the entire male population of Israel was entitled to marry 'women children' of Midian,  so not just the rabbis, but all Jewish men are permitted to sexually violate underage girls. The Talmud continues: “Consequently, it must be said and scripture speaks of one [a 3-year-old baby girl] who is fit for cohabitation An eminent sage goes on to summarize: “The Halakah is in agreement with Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai.”

He cites a historical precedent: “There was a certain town in the land of Israel the legitimacy of whose inhabitants was disputed, and Rabbi R. Romanos who conducted an inquiry and found in it the [b]daughter
of a proselyte who was under the age of three years and one day, and Rabbi declared her eligible to live with a priest.” Footnote 15 says Romanos “permitted her to continue to live with her husband.”

Note: in this case, rape of a baby girl under three years is permitted.

Such imprecision introduces an important fact: just as the Talmud was flexible concerning age limits of sex, it was also flexible about gender. Footnote 1 to Kethuboth 11b opens a wide door for Jewish homosexual pedophiles by pronouncing “the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act[//b]”

Pedophile rabbis today, molesting and raping both male and female children, exercise this sociopathic freedom.

[b]The Talmud in Kethuboth 11b summarizes permission for child sex under three years, citing the authority of Raba.  “Raba said… when a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing…” The footnote to Raba’s statement says “i.e., tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come back to the little girl under three years.” Another of the greatest Tannaim, Rabbi Meir, says that the sexual status of a 3-year-old baby girl is no different than a sexually mature woman. This supports ben Yohai’s edict that the Midianite “women children” were, to the age of three years and a day, or under that age, ready for sexual use.



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Jewish rabbis sanction sex with male and female children


even  children under the age of 3 years



and you want to crap on about a religious group with millions of members, the Pentacostals,  because you  think you can use one filthy paedophile within that group to defame and dengrate a Prime Minister ?



HEY, RABBI … HEAL THYSELF


AND HEY, FINGER POINTERS ---- CLEAN UP YOUR OWN ACT FIRST
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PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:52am:
Jewish rabbis sanction sex with male and female children


even  children under the age of 3 years



and you want to crap on about a religious group with millions of members, the Pentacostals,  because you  think you can use one filthy paedophile within that group to defame and dengrate a Prime Minister ?



HEY, RABBI … HEAL THYSELF


AND HEY, FINGER POINTERS ---- CLEAN UP YOUR OWN ACT FIRST




Nuttier than squirrel poo.
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mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:58am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:52am:
Jewish rabbis sanction sex with male and female children


even  children under the age of 3 years



and you want to crap on about a religious group with millions of members, the Pentacostals,  because you  think you can use one filthy paedophile within that group to defame and dengrate a Prime Minister ?



HEY, RABBI … HEAL THYSELF


AND HEY, FINGER POINTERS ---- CLEAN UP YOUR OWN ACT FIRST




Nuttier than squirrel poo.




when you've managed to finish reading my above posts about sanctioned jewish paedophilia and rampant jew paedophilia in jew schools …..


i'll post more for your edification


and you can pretend you 'never knew that before '


and stick to bashing muslims non stop, lol


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Orthodox leaders are thus obligated to protect rabbinic pedophiles because such perverts are acting out sexual liberty granted by God.

This helps explain a consistent pattern today of Jewish authorities taking no effective action against Jewish pedophiles or stringent measures in Jewish religious schools and courts. 

Instead there exists a sordid record of pedophile rabbis and Yeshiva teachers being sent to other areas or safe haven in Israel—or even kept on staff.

Such indulgence goes back to the towering influence of Simeon ben Yohai.

Yet the Talmud’s incitement of child rape is never mentioned in the Jewish population today, even by well-meaning Orthodox Jews who protest sexual abuse of 1 out of 5 Jewish children. Why the silence?

They fear dominant rabbis who may well be pedophiles and protect their own. There are many instances cited at the FailedMessiah.com of such would-be reformers being verbally, socially and even physically assaulted
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PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 11:05am:
mothra wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:58am:
PZ547 wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 10:52am:
Jewish rabbis sanction sex with male and female children


even  children under the age of 3 years



and you want to crap on about a religious group with millions of members, the Pentacostals,  because you  think you can use one filthy paedophile within that group to defame and dengrate a Prime Minister ?



HEY, RABBI … HEAL THYSELF


AND HEY, FINGER POINTERS ---- CLEAN UP YOUR OWN ACT FIRST




Nuttier than squirrel poo.




when you've managed to finish reading my above posts about sanctioned jewish paedophilia and rampant jew paedophilia in jew schools …..


i'll post more for your edification


and you can pretend you 'never knew that before '


and stick to bashing muslims non stop, lol






How about you do as Raven has so politely (repeatedly) asked and post them in a new thread?

This is supposed to draw attention to our PM and what he is up to.

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did the Pope Resign after Geo Pell was found guilty?



here we go again

  the sins of the father...seem to fall all over the place.....

and its everyones fault.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


according to those without sin! Sad
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Coalition supporters on this forum are happy to support Morrison on this, from the looks of it.
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Coalition supporters on this forum are happy to support Morrison on this, from the looks of it.


Yep.

Pretty disgusting, isn't it?

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who really cares as Scomo's job is to make Australia big and strong and powerful.

Why are you not shocked at Scummo's connections to kiddy fiddlers?
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Bam wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 4:51pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
who really cares as Scomo's job is to make Australia big and strong and powerful.

Why are you not shocked at Scummo's connections to kiddy fiddlers?


Because it is expected or a requirement?
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Bam wrote on Jul 16th, 2019 at 4:51pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:
who really cares as Scomo's job is to make Australia big and strong and powerful.

Why are you not shocked at Scummo's connections to kiddy fiddlers?


I wasn't shocked.

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is alphabet numbers actually defending this bloke?

Unbuggerenbelievable.
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Our esteemed leader:

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Our PM shared a stage with him.

Last year, a Royal Commission found that a Pentecostal leader covered up the abuse of a seven-year-old. Scott Morrison wilfully shared a stage with him. His apathy toward victims is painfully clear.

On July 5, Prime Minister Scott Morrison and his wife Jenny stood on a stage beside Pastor Brian Houston, a Pentecostal religious leader censured last year by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sex Abuse for covering up the sexual abuse of a seven-year-old boy, abuse that continued for five years. The occasion was a Hillsong church conference, and Morrison used the opportunity to call for more love in Australia, and less judgement. Morrison has a long association with Brian Houston and described him in his maiden speech to parliament as his mentor.

The abuse concealed from authorities by Houston was perpetrated by his father, Frank now deceased, also a pastor and a founder of the Hillsong church. The Royal Commission found that Houston the younger failed to follow the church’s own protocol on the abuse of children, did not support the victim, and failed to notify police of his father’s crimes. Indeed, Houston is reported to have told the victim it was his own fault for “coming on to” Frank.

In the last six months two former Liberal Prime Ministers, John Howard and Tony Abbott, publicly demonstrated their support for convicted child sex abuser Cardinal George Pell. This support included a glowing character reference to the court from Howard, and phone calls from Abbott to Pell in jail. Abbott also declared that Pell’s conviction was a “devastating result” for Catholics. Abbott has a long relationship with Pell, whom he has described as his “colleague and mentor.”

It  is somewhat unnerving that three Liberal Prime Ministers have sought the counsel of men who are deeply involved in the sexual abuse of children, either as the perpetrator, protector of the perpetrator, or in Pell’s case, both. What is even more unnerving is that not one of the three Prime Ministers has seen fit to distance himself from the accused men, despite the allegations being proven in the case of Pell, and admitted in the case of Houston. None of the Prime Ministers appears to have the slightest compunction about acknowledging their long and ongoing personal relationships with these men, for whom they continue to profess admiration, respect and esteem.

Indeed, so comfortable with his mentor is Scott Morrison that he and his wife publicly prayed with him at a televised event.

What this deliberately public support implies is that the Prime Ministers do not believe the victims, or perhaps, even worse, they do believe the victims, but regard the crimes committed against them as irrelevant. Let’s not forget these are Prime Ministers we’re talking about, the leading legislators in the country. All three of them admit to having sought advice, political and spiritual, two from Pell and one from Houston.

If the leader of your country consorts with those who have committed or concealed child sexual abuse, how can your country ever be safe for you? The Prime Ministers have given permission for anyone to disbelieve you, and this leads us into a narrative with which survivors are heartbreakingly familiar.

A tone is set by the Prime Ministers. It becomes the zeitgeist. It says, powerful men or men embraced by powerful men can do anything they like, and it will be overlooked. This is the belief of our time, a belief that is evident far beyond the circumstances of child sexual abuse, but is perhaps most horrifyingly distilled in that specific circumstance.

According to this report, police re-opened their investigation into Houston’s handling of the sex crimes committed by his father in 2018. It is simply not credible to think that the Morrisons are unaware of this situation. They choose to overlook it. We watch as our Prime Minister and his wife worship with a man who concealed sexual crimes against small children.

The friendship, trust and very public support of a Prime Minister, current or past, are powerful weapons of normalisation. In standing side by side with Brian Houston, Scott and Jenny Morrison have resoundingly contributed to the normalisation of Houston’s failure to properly act against a perpetrator of sexual crimes.

Sadly, we seem to lack any political voice powerful enough to challenge this moral collapse.



as always, the truth is a bit short on in this comment. the TRUTH is that it wasnt just 'someone'. it was his father. If you think you wouldnt bend a few rules or principles in defence of your own family then you probably dont have one. Of course, what he did was wrong, but also quite understandable.

Also, one of the basic principles of Christianity is forgiveness. And you re lambasting someone for their inadequate handling of someone ELSES crimes.

ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person. sex crimes tend to tarnish those close to it. In the meantime, those criticizing it themselves cover up other crimes. Hypocrisy is alive and well.
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longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:01am:
ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person.


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longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:01am:
ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person.


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then criticise them in detail. Dont criticise because you dont like their politics or their religion. Criticise actual behaviour. Trying to defend your father is very understandable. Wrong, but hardly a despicable crime.
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longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:03am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:01am:
ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person.


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then criticise them in detail. Dont criticise because you dont like their politics or their religion. Criticise actual behaviour. Trying to defend your father is very understandable. Wrong, but hardly a despicable crime.


His conduct is no better than that which Hollingsworth was accused of.  It is a nothing that it was his Father who was the arsehole.  Hollingsworth would legitimately claim a close collegiate relationship with those scum bag Priests.  Nah.  The bloke sought to secrete abuse and Morrison stands shoulder to shoulder to him, knowing of that guilt.

Forgiveness, you plead.  Whaaat?  How about the PM forgive those bastards who have been caught with their hand in the welfare cookie jar.....etc etc etc?
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Religion sucks, brother.
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longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:01am:
ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person.


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longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:01am:
as always, the truth is a bit short on in this comment. the TRUTH is that it wasnt just 'someone'. it was his father. If you think you wouldnt bend a few rules or principles in defence of your own family then you probably dont have one. Of course, what he did was wrong, but also quite understandable.

Also, one of the basic principles of Christianity is forgiveness. And you re lambasting someone for their inadequate handling of someone ELSES crimes.

ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person. sex crimes tend to tarnish those close to it. In the meantime, those criticizing it themselves cover up other crimes. Hypocrisy is alive and well.


Houston is a good person? Do you think the family of the victim considers the man who tried to cover up the rape a good person? Do you think a good person would say it was the 7 year old's fault that they got raped because they seduced the rapist? Because that's what Houston did.

Now Raven is not arguing that Morrison is a bad person. But the standards for him are different to everyday Australians. He is the leader of this country and to have the leader of a nation actively consort with a man who deliberately covered up the rape of a small child  should not be acceptable.

Everything the PM says or does sends some kind of message. In this instance the message the PM is sending to victims of child abuse is  "I don't care."
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Reply #41 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 8:31am
 
Raven wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:29pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:01am:
as always, the truth is a bit short on in this comment. the TRUTH is that it wasnt just 'someone'. it was his father. If you think you wouldnt bend a few rules or principles in defence of your own family then you probably dont have one. Of course, what he did was wrong, but also quite understandable.

Also, one of the basic principles of Christianity is forgiveness. And you re lambasting someone for their inadequate handling of someone ELSES crimes.

ScoMo is a good person. Houston is a good person. sex crimes tend to tarnish those close to it. In the meantime, those criticizing it themselves cover up other crimes. Hypocrisy is alive and well.


Houston is a good person? Do you think the family of the victim considers the man who tried to cover up the rape a good person? Do you think a good person would say it was the 7 year old's fault that they got raped because they seduced the rapist? Because that's what Houston did.

Now Raven is not arguing that Morrison is a bad person. But the standards for him are different to everyday Australians. He is the leader of this country and to have the leader of a nation actively consort with a man who deliberately covered up the rape of a small child  should not be acceptable.

Everything the PM says or does sends some kind of message. In this instance the message the PM is sending to victims of child abuse is  "I don't care." 


Essentially, Houston's "crime" is not reporting his father to police.

Who'd do that?
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