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Reply #60 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:28pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:13pm:
What a crock of shite.

It's a damn rock.

But the primitives see an opportunity to be both assholes and get some extra cash, so they will kick up a stink about everything and anything to get noticed.

Simply put
They are predominantly lazy, worthless bludgers.
Predisposed to addiction
Lost and pathetic, they see no future for their race and culture because they have nothing to give.

But take.....this is their forte.
Hands out begging and demanding every opportunity
They see the land as a commodity to be sold for drugs and alcohol so they can immerse themselves in a world where the truth can be forgotten

The truth.....they have no relevance, are worthless and are doomed to fade into insignificance.

Just like the Tasmanian abbos, what is left of them?
Nothing, they are gone and have left nothing behind.


Just the other day you said you were Gypsy.

I wonder if you're as comfortable with the stereotypes they suffer persecution from as you are with negative stereotypes for other people.

Because i really could say something like ... well, begging has more class than stealing ... but i'm not an arsehole.
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Reply #61 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:35pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:09pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:05pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:00pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:52pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:48pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:28am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:48am:
Jasin wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:25pm:
Yes. Why climb it?
I climbed the Himalaya's (6800m) and I was embarressed by all the 'rubbish' in the Everest valley and around Everest Base Camp (lots more around the bases of many Mountains). Did you see that clip a few months back of how 12 climbers died in one period where there was a few hundred metres of a line-up near the summit packed with climbers waiting for their 15mins of sumit fame? Pretty sad really.
With people dying and freaks doing nude climbs - I kinda don't blame the 'Protectors of the Land' (cuz Whitey don't) wanting to stop the stupidity.

From above. Uluru (not that boring Christianised name) is shaped like a human heart and now it has an ugly trodden path 'scar' upon it.


Shaped like a diseased heart more like it.

You're probably a Hindmarsh Island believer that it looks like a womens pubic area from the air(which it does not) .... secret womens business ey? As if they would have known way back what it looked like from the air. Roll Eyes

And Ayres Rock has more natural lines across it than scars from walking tracks.  Roll Eyes




That's not what the secret women's business is about.

I'm not in the least surprised that you are sadly misinformed.

Wasn't that found to be a big load of crap Mothra?


Ultimately no. But they still built the bridge.

Yes it was. Even many of the local aboriginal women backed away from the claims.



No Hammer. Upon a second trial, the story was deemed not to be fabricated

And not many, a few.

So explain to me how aboriginal women said the island looks like a pussy from the air?


That wasn't cited as the reason it was of significance, more confirmation to the Ngarrindjeri that indeed the island represents what they believed it did.

You are aware that land formations hold specific mythology? Well, in this case, the fact that they felt the island looked like a women's reproductive parts just confirmed what they felt it was all about.

It wasn't a reason ... it was corroboration.

rubbish. look it up.


i was there.

I believe that.
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Reply #62 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:36pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:28pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:13pm:
What a crock of shite.

It's a damn rock.

But the primitives see an opportunity to be both assholes and get some extra cash, so they will kick up a stink about everything and anything to get noticed.

Simply put
They are predominantly lazy, worthless bludgers.
Predisposed to addiction
Lost and pathetic, they see no future for their race and culture because they have nothing to give.

But take.....this is their forte.
Hands out begging and demanding every opportunity
They see the land as a commodity to be sold for drugs and alcohol so they can immerse themselves in a world where the truth can be forgotten

The truth.....they have no relevance, are worthless and are doomed to fade into insignificance.

Just like the Tasmanian abbos, what is left of them?
Nothing, they are gone and have left nothing behind.


Just the other day you said you were Gypsy.

I wonder if you're as comfortable with the stereotypes they suffer persecution from as you are with negative stereotypes for other people.

Because i really could say something like ... well, begging has more class than stealing ... but i'm not an arsehole.


I am a Gypsy
It's part of what I am, who I am.
But I do not let this define me.
I am an Australian first
I work in an honest job and have been honest all my life.
I have never begged, and I give of myself to others who need it willingly.

Everyone has the opportunity to be more than what they are borne onto.
But some are simply lazy, pathetic dead beats.
My family were poor, but honest.
I worked hard and succeeded in life.

Too bad our aboriginal friends can't be bothered to get use the opportunities afforded them. I wish I had had as many.

They are defined by what the do, or don't do.
Not by the colour of their skin or the place they were born.
And what they do is beg, steal, waste and demand.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #63 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:40pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:36pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:28pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:13pm:
What a crock of shite.

It's a damn rock.

But the primitives see an opportunity to be both assholes and get some extra cash, so they will kick up a stink about everything and anything to get noticed.

Simply put
They are predominantly lazy, worthless bludgers.
Predisposed to addiction
Lost and pathetic, they see no future for their race and culture because they have nothing to give.

But take.....this is their forte.
Hands out begging and demanding every opportunity
They see the land as a commodity to be sold for drugs and alcohol so they can immerse themselves in a world where the truth can be forgotten

The truth.....they have no relevance, are worthless and are doomed to fade into insignificance.

Just like the Tasmanian abbos, what is left of them?
Nothing, they are gone and have left nothing behind.


Just the other day you said you were Gypsy.

I wonder if you're as comfortable with the stereotypes they suffer persecution from as you are with negative stereotypes for other people.

Because i really could say something like ... well, begging has more class than stealing ... but i'm not an arsehole.


I am a Gypsy
It's part of what I am, who I am.
But I do not let this define me.
I am an Australian first
I work in an honest job and have been honest all my life.
I have never begged, and I give of myself to others who need it willingly.

Everyone has the opportunity to be more than what they are borne onto.
But some are simply lazy, pathetic dead beats.
My family were poor, but honest.
I worked hard and succeeded in life.

Too bad our aboriginal friends can't be bothered to get use the opportunities afforded them. I wish I had had as many.

They are defined by what the do, or don't do.
Not by the colour of their skin or the place they were born.
And what they do is beg, steal, waste and demand.



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Re: Uluru - the Rock
Reply #64 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 4:38pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:09pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:05pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:00pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:52pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:48pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:28am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:48am:
Jasin wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:25pm:
Yes. Why climb it?
I climbed the Himalaya's (6800m) and I was embarressed by all the 'rubbish' in the Everest valley and around Everest Base Camp (lots more around the bases of many Mountains). Did you see that clip a few months back of how 12 climbers died in one period where there was a few hundred metres of a line-up near the summit packed with climbers waiting for their 15mins of sumit fame? Pretty sad really.
With people dying and freaks doing nude climbs - I kinda don't blame the 'Protectors of the Land' (cuz Whitey don't) wanting to stop the stupidity.

From above. Uluru (not that boring Christianised name) is shaped like a human heart and now it has an ugly trodden path 'scar' upon it.


Shaped like a diseased heart more like it.

You're probably a Hindmarsh Island believer that it looks like a womens pubic area from the air(which it does not) .... secret womens business ey? As if they would have known way back what it looked like from the air. Roll Eyes

And Ayres Rock has more natural lines across it than scars from walking tracks.  Roll Eyes




That's not what the secret women's business is about.

I'm not in the least surprised that you are sadly misinformed.

Wasn't that found to be a big load of crap Mothra?


Ultimately no. But they still built the bridge.

Yes it was. Even many of the local aboriginal women backed away from the claims.



No Hammer. Upon a second trial, the story was deemed not to be fabricated

And not many, a few.

So explain to me how aboriginal women said the island looks like a pussy from the air?


That wasn't cited as the reason it was of significance, more confirmation to the Ngarrindjeri that indeed the island represents what they believed it did.

You are aware that land formations hold specific mythology? Well, in this case, the fact that they felt the island looked like a women's reproductive parts just confirmed what they felt it was all about.


It wasn't a reason ... it was corroboration.

rubbish. look it up.


i was there.


Crock.....
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Reply #65 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm
 
Were you there Grappler?  If so, can you exclude Mothra being there?
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Reply #66 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm
 
Sadly Gnads you are a tad lacking in knowing that a lot of Aboriginal Art was done from the viewpoint of 'the sky' looking down as many works were 'Maps' and as they were 'artistic' they were not exacted as if illustrated by a survey team from the current era. In fact, with all their FARMING areas of fertile abundance (even areas where Whiteys considered them 'deserts' long ago - but the Colonialists got a lot of things 'wrong' for centuries) - they made the entire continent a living 'Artwork'.
...whitey can only come up with an Bridge and Opera house thanks to foreigners mostly in high positions.

One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #67 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm:
Sadly Gnads you are a tad lacking in knowing that a lot of Aboriginal Art was done from the viewpoint of 'the sky' looking down as many works were 'Maps' and as they were 'artistic' they were not exacted as if illustrated by a survey team from the current era. In fact, with all their FARMING areas of fertile abundance (even areas where Whiteys considered them 'deserts' long ago - but the Colonialists got a lot of things 'wrong' for centuries) - they made the entire continent a living 'Artwork'.
...whitey can only come up with an Bridge and Opera house thanks to foreigners mostly in high positions.

One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here.


Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #68 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm:
Sadly Gnads you are a tad lacking in knowing that a lot of Aboriginal Art was done from the viewpoint of 'the sky' looking down as many works were 'Maps' and as they were 'artistic' they were not exacted as if illustrated by a survey team from the current era. In fact, with all their FARMING areas of fertile abundance (even areas where Whiteys considered them 'deserts' long ago - but the Colonialists got a lot of things 'wrong' for centuries) - they made the entire continent a living 'Artwork'.
...whitey can only come up with an Bridge and Opera house thanks to foreigners mostly in high positions.

One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here.


Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


You're just ignorant Grapps. Go read the book Dark Emu. Or are you scared that Aboriginals are going to steal your soul and you'll become less Australian?  Grin
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Reply #69 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm:
Were you there Grappler?  If so, can you exclude Mothra being there?


Nah - no need to be there to see it's a crock.. and I never said Mothra wasn't there...

Secret Women's Business entered the Australian lexicion almost as much as 'Not Happy, Jan!' did...

A very nice little advertising line, but hardly factual...

As for Ayers Rock - one off, all off!  Can't have even a few locals making tracks on OUR rock and pissing in the waterholes and leaving rubbish and dying there, can we?
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Reply #70 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:45pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm:
Sadly Gnads you are a tad lacking in knowing that a lot of Aboriginal Art was done from the viewpoint of 'the sky' looking down as many works were 'Maps' and as they were 'artistic' they were not exacted as if illustrated by a survey team from the current era. In fact, with all their FARMING areas of fertile abundance (even areas where Whiteys considered them 'deserts' long ago - but the Colonialists got a lot of things 'wrong' for centuries) - they made the entire continent a living 'Artwork'.
...whitey can only come up with an Bridge and Opera house thanks to foreigners mostly in high positions.

One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here.


Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


You're just ignorant Grapps. Go read the book Dark Emu. Or are you scared that Aboriginals are going to steal your soul and you'll become less Australian?  Grin


Is there a Light Emu to balance it - or is it just another spun propaganda line?

'fertile land farmed that the white men saw as deserts' - come on Jas - you can do better than that....  Roll Eyes

"One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here."

You got that right.... I'm certain those who claimed it found it to be an uplifting, even 'religious' experience... same as Mount Warning... it's just the way of things.... and colour of skin makes no difference ...
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Reply #71 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm:
Were you there Grappler?  If so, can you exclude Mothra being there?


Nah - no need to be there to see it's a crock.. and I never said Mothra wasn't there...

Secret Women's Business entered the Australian lexicion almost as much as 'Not Happy, Jan!' did...

A very nice little advertising line, but hardly factual...

As for Ayers Rock - one off, all off!  Can't have even a few locals making tracks on OUR rock and pissing in the waterholes and leaving rubbish and dying there, can we?


Then Brendon Nelson and everyone better get out of the inner parts of the Canberra War Memorial to which the plebs have no access.  One out, all out.
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Reply #72 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:18pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:45pm:
Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm:
Sadly Gnads you are a tad lacking in knowing that a lot of Aboriginal Art was done from the viewpoint of 'the sky' looking down as many works were 'Maps' and as they were 'artistic' they were not exacted as if illustrated by a survey team from the current era. In fact, with all their FARMING areas of fertile abundance (even areas where Whiteys considered them 'deserts' long ago - but the Colonialists got a lot of things 'wrong' for centuries) - they made the entire continent a living 'Artwork'.
...whitey can only come up with an Bridge and Opera house thanks to foreigners mostly in high positions.

One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here.


Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


You're just ignorant Grapps. Go read the book Dark Emu. Or are you scared that Aboriginals are going to steal your soul and you'll become less Australian?  Grin


Is there a Light Emu to balance it - or is it just another spun propaganda line?

'fertile land farmed that the white men saw as deserts' - come on Jas - you can do better than that....  Roll Eyes

"One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock  Roll Eyes) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here."

You got that right.... I'm certain those who claimed it found it to be an uplifting, even 'religious' experience... same as Mount Warning... it's just the way of things.... and colour of skin makes no difference ...


The 'Dark' Emu is in referrence to the 'dark' regions of the Milky Way galaxy that appears like that of an out-stretched Emu, much in the exactness of Stars and their 'images'.

I think you need to read the Book Graps before you go further. If not, you will be shot as a Heretic Grin

Considering the Whiteys had to 'steal' their food from Aboriginal Grain 'Mounds' (tons!) as 'Explorers'...

...now you know how the original Europeans (NEANDERTHALS) were out-done by the 'darky' Sapiens from way down from the 'dark' Continent.  Cheesy
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Reply #73 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:34pm
 
https://streamable.com/sx7bo

That Dark Emu sounds like fun to read.... I am by profession a heretic and an iconoclast... my job, as a famous artist once said to me about art, is to make people think... sort of the Court Jester....

Hey, hey - my my
Rock and LOL will never die.....
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Reply #74 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:48pm
 
https://streamable.com/jzayq

These are videos, BTW.. not nasty....
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