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Reply #195 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are.


There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW?

I'm curious.


Fair cop, court case is next week.

Im curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Tap dancing?

Undecided


Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani.



And?



Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it?
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Reply #196 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are.


There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW?

I'm curious.


Fair cop, court case is next week.

Im curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Tap dancing?

Undecided


Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani.



And?



Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it?


Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that Secret Wars is right - the alleged perps are Muslims.

How is that relevant?



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Reply #197 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are.


There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW?

I'm curious.


Fair cop, court case is next week.

Im curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Tap dancing?

Undecided


Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani.



And?



Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it?


Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that Secret Wars is right - the alleged perps are Muslims.

How is that relevant?





.. because they think that form of cultural activity is 'normal' and 'legal' ... same as marrying first cousins is considered 'normal'.....

The New White Man's Burden is to socialise and civilise them..... in spite of themselves.......

Funny how that works.... and funny how things go round and round..... good to see some girls in Britain etc refusing to be transported for the term of their natural life 'back' to the 'old country' for marriage to a cousin at age 14 .... the change is slow.. but it is working..... civilisation is creeping in slowly to the lesser ethnicities .... and they are slowly adopting The White Man's Way....

Now we need to stop them holding slaves....  Cool
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Reply #198 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:20am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
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........... A 39-year-old man, his 28-year-old brother and their 58-year-old mother were arrested at a home in Merrylands on Wednesday.

........... historic allegations of slavery against the 39-year-old man, who was married to the Afghani woman, and his previous wife about six years ago.

........travelling to Afghanistan on a one-way ticket in January last year.........

........ travelling to Afghanistan with her husband ........

....... The 28-year-old man has been charged with exercising powers of ownership over a slave.

.......... reopening of a 2013 referral relating to allegations of domestic servitude involving the 39-year-old mans first wife. ............



all very islamic


That's the victim, Sprint.

It appears that the victim is a Muslim.

However, there is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality.




Grin Grin Gawd you're pathetic.


Why - because I stated a fact?

There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality.

Not one word.


Does there have to be?

99.7% of Afghans are Muslim.

Indians living abroad go home to India for a bride

Chinese go home to China for a bride.

So it's reasonable to deduct that the perpetrator was going home to Afghanistan to return the bride he didn't want (dump) and then return to Australia where he had a new one in the wings.

You never get sick of being a pedant.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #199 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:11pm
 
Are there any Yobbos left in Merrylands?
Maybe they would prevent this to happen.

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Reply #200 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:13pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:20am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
Quote:
........... A 39-year-old man, his 28-year-old brother and their 58-year-old mother were arrested at a home in Merrylands on Wednesday.

........... historic allegations of slavery against the 39-year-old man, who was married to the Afghani woman, and his previous wife about six years ago.

........travelling to Afghanistan on a one-way ticket in January last year.........

........ travelling to Afghanistan with her husband ........

....... The 28-year-old man has been charged with exercising powers of ownership over a slave.

.......... reopening of a 2013 referral relating to allegations of domestic servitude involving the 39-year-old mans first wife. ............



all very islamic


That's the victim, Sprint.

It appears that the victim is a Muslim.

However, there is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality.




Grin Grin Gawd you're pathetic.


Why - because I stated a fact?

There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality.

Not one word.


Does there have to be?

99.7% of Afghans are Muslim.



We don't know the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

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Reply #201 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:15pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are.


There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW?

I'm curious.


Fair cop, court case is next week.

Im curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Tap dancing?

Undecided


Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani.



And?



Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it?


Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that Secret Wars is right - the alleged perps are Muslims.

How is that relevant?





.. because they think that form of cultural activity is 'normal' and 'legal' ... same as marrying first cousins is considered 'normal'.....



Pure nonsense.

"All Muslims are terrorists" has now turned into "All Muslims keep slaves".

What next?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #202 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are.


There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW?

I'm curious.


Fair cop, court case is next week.

Im curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Tap dancing?

Undecided


Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani.



And?



Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it?


Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that Secret Wars is right - the alleged perps are Muslims.

How is that relevant?





.. because they think that form of cultural activity is 'normal' and 'legal' ... same as marrying first cousins is considered 'normal'.....



Pure nonsense.

"All Muslims are terrorists" has now turned into "All Muslims keep slaves".

What next? Roll Eyes


Nobody said 'all'..... until you did..... however, the vast majority of Pakistani women, when asked, had never heard of any dangers in marrying first cousins and thought it 'normal', the basis of it being that all outsiders were potentially dangerous in some way ... and yet it is the West that is most often accused of xenophobia.*

Work that one out... just read the article I posted last night....

Anyway - it is not then unreasonable to accept that a significant number of Muslims think it is reasonable to hold slaves ... and don't know that there is any problem associated with doing so.... kulchural, innit?

* perhaps half of the fighting in Afghanistan is by locals resenting the intrusion of 'outsiders' on their turf and sometimes their drug territory ... not 'Taliban' based at all....

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Reply #203 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:31pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are.


There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality.

So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW?

I'm curious.


Fair cop, court case is next week.

Im curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Tap dancing?

Undecided


Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani.



And?



Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it?


Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that Secret Wars is right - the alleged perps are Muslims.

How is that relevant?





.. because they think that form of cultural activity is 'normal' and 'legal' ... same as marrying first cousins is considered 'normal'.....



Pure nonsense.

"All Muslims are terrorists" has now turned into "All Muslims keep slaves".

What next? Roll Eyes


Nobody said 'all'..... until you did..... however, the vast majority of Pakistani women, when asked, had never heard of any dangers in marrying first cousins and thought it 'normal', the basis of it being that all outsiders were potentially dangerous in some way ... and yet it is the West that is most often accused of xenophobia.

Work that one out... just read the article I posted last night....

Anyway - it is not then unreasonable to accept that a significant number of Muslims think it is reasonable to hold slaves ... and don't know that there is any problem associated with doing so.... kulchural, innit?


You forgot to cite your references.

I'm sure it was an honest oversight.

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Reply #204 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:45pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:20am:
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:13am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:05am:
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:52am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are. Grin Grin Grin Cheesy


Do you want to find out if all those American employers blackmailing their Mexican works to work for next to nothing are Muslim too, Secret?

We're curious.


*waves Aussie salute at forum blowfly buzzing diversion*🦟



Are you suggesting this is a ridiculous question, dear?


I am suggesting it has nothing to do with what I posted, morevover I have no idea what you are blathering about.


Then you haven't read the thread, dear, but no worries, I'll help you out.

The world's biggest source of slavery is indentured workers - illegal migrants who are blackmailed to work for a pittance. One of the biggest markets for this form of human trafficking is the good old US of A.

I have also identified Nepalese sex workers in India and Rohinga fishermen in Thailand as other similarly exploited people who work as slaves. Indeed, they have uncovered mass graves in Southern Thailand of Rohinga refugees - the ones, mainly older people, women and children, who couldn't be put to work.

I hope that explains that, dear. If you don't want to explain what religion has to do with this, no worries. You're free to pick any of the tinted races you want, identify them as Muslim, and tell us all what rotters they are.

You can then say that such hypothetical Muslims were just obeying their sinister prophet, thus pretending that all Muslims are at risk of doing the same as them. Then, you can say, you see? Aren't these tinted races terrible? WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

If we say, but hang on, who said they're Muslims? You say, well, they're tinted, aren't they? And we say ah.

Cunning, no? It's worked for you for many years, and if anyone asks any pesky questions, you brush them aside as apologetic blowflies.

You'd pass them off as Islamic blowflies if you could, but the only Muslim on this site is smarter, fairer, nicer and far more articulate than you. FD keeps asking him really dumb questions to catch him out, and in the process, proves what a silly old sausage FD is.

Also, the Muslim's not tinted, which disqualifies him from being the Ooga-booga you're really out to get.

So unfair, no? You'd think they'd at least play by the rules and be tinted. FD would be happy if they just confessed to being Muslim.

Hypothetically, I mean.
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Reply #205 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm
 
You forget the Thais, Indian & Filipinos that go to the UAE & Saudi Arabia to work .... that are not paid & locked up as sex slaves.

Oh .... & the European women who are lured there for the same to happen to them.

Not indentured at all..... slaves period.

Nothing to do with Islam of course.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #206 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:14pm
 
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:20am:
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:13am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:05am:
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:52am:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are. Grin Grin Grin Cheesy


Do you want to find out if all those American employers blackmailing their Mexican works to work for next to nothing are Muslim too, Secret?

We're curious.


*waves Aussie salute at forum blowfly buzzing diversion*🦟



Are you suggesting this is a ridiculous question, dear?


I am suggesting it has nothing to do with what I posted, morevover I have no idea what you are blathering about.


Then you haven't read the thread, dear, but no worries, I'll help you out.

The world's biggest source of slavery is indentured workers - illegal migrants who are blackmailed to work for a pittance. One of the biggest markets for this form of human trafficking is the good old US of A.

I have also identified Nepalese sex workers in India and Rohinga fishermen in Thailand as other similarly exploited people who work as slaves. Indeed, they have uncovered mass graves in Southern Thailand of Rohinga refugees - the ones, mainly older people, women and children, who couldn't be put to work.

I hope that explains that, dear. If you don't want to explain what religion has to do with this, no worries. You're free to pick any of the tinted races you want, identify them as Muslim, and tell us all what rotters they are.

You can then say that such hypothetical Muslims were just obeying their sinister prophet, thus pretending that all Muslims are at risk of doing the same as them. Then, you can say, you see? Aren't these tinted races terrible? WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

If we say, but hang on, who said they're Muslims? You say, well, they're tinted, aren't they? And we say ah.

Cunning, no? It's worked for you for many years, and if anyone asks any pesky questions, you brush them aside as apologetic blowflies.

You'd pass them off as Islamic blowflies if you could, but the only Muslim on this site is smarter, fairer, nicer and far more articulate than you. FD keeps asking him really dumb questions to catch him out, and in the process, proves what a silly old sausage FD is.

Also, the Muslim's not tinted, which disqualifies him from being the Ooga-booga you're really out to get.

So unfair, no? You'd think they'd at least play by the rules and be tinted. FD would be happy if they just confessed to being Muslim.

Hypothetically, I mean.


Ouch!   Smiley
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Reply #207 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:22pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
You forget the Thais, Indian & Filipinos that go to the UAE & Saudi Arabia to work .... that are not paid & locked up as sex slaves.

Oh .... & the European women who are lured there for the same to happen to them.

Not indentured at all..... slaves period.

Nothing to do with Islam of course. Roll Eyes


Ah yes, "lured" over there on work visas with employment contracts.

The only good thing about the Saudis: they pay up.
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Reply #208 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:36pm
 
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
You forget the Thais, Indian & Filipinos that go to the UAE & Saudi Arabia to work .... that are not paid & locked up as sex slaves.

Oh .... & the European women who are lured there for the same to happen to them.

Not indentured at all..... slaves period.

Nothing to do with Islam of course. Roll Eyes


Ah yes, "lured" over there on work visas with employment contracts.

The only good thing about the Saudis: they pay up.

You don't know what motivated these people karnal. Neither do I.  Islam dictates how a Muslim person conducts their life. And these people are Muslims so it's logical to assume it played a part in their actions. Personally I believe it's more a cultural thing with the problem of Afghan slavery in Australia. Indians are over represented also so I believe it's to do with the dowry  system and arranged marriage. This is my take- they arranged a marriage with relos in Afghanistan and the son didn't like her so they tried to piss her back off there. But she came back. Because she was so desperate to stay in Australia they used that and turned her into a slave. They thought "well, let's turn a bad situation into a good one. She won't dob or we'll threaten to ring the immigration department".
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Reply #209 - Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:39pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:36pm:
Abu wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
You forget the Thais, Indian & Filipinos that go to the UAE & Saudi Arabia to work .... that are not paid & locked up as sex slaves.

Oh .... & the European women who are lured there for the same to happen to them.

Not indentured at all..... slaves period.

Nothing to do with Islam of course. Roll Eyes


Ah yes, "lured" over there on work visas with employment contracts.

The only good thing about the Saudis: they pay up.

You don't know what motivated these people karnal. Neither do I. Islam dictates how a Muslim person conducts their life. And these people are Muslims ...


Where does the article say that, Jocko?

I'm curious.
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