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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #420 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:11am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:05am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:54am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:49am:
You'll notice FD ran off without answering your question, G, followed by the appearance of Setanta, who steered you into their cunning campaign against the Muselman, right?

Freeeeedom, innit.


I'm FD's sock obviously K. Occam's razor, init.

I think FD and I differ though, I don't like any religion. Why do people choose to be slaves?



Perhaps they don't consider themselves as you consider them?

In any event, you don't want it explained to you. No explanation would suffice. You simply want to sit in judgement.


It seems you are doing that yourself without any help from me.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #421 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:16am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:11am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:05am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:54am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:49am:
You'll notice FD ran off without answering your question, G, followed by the appearance of Setanta, who steered you into their cunning campaign against the Muselman, right?

Freeeeedom, innit.


I'm FD's sock obviously K. Occam's razor, init.

I think FD and I differ though, I don't like any religion. Why do people choose to be slaves?



Perhaps they don't consider themselves as you consider them?

In any event, you don't want it explained to you. No explanation would suffice. You simply want to sit in judgement.


It seems you are doing that yourself without any help from me.


I'm not the one claiming all Muslims think anything at all .. or that all religious people are slaves.

That would be all you. In judgement.

Me calling you on it is a far lesser example of what you yourself are doing. I'm calling you, an individual, on your words. And with the benefit of having tried previously to have similar conversations with you.

You are intractable. You always have been.

You were once civil and respectful though. You're no longer even that.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #422 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:17am
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:07am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:54am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:49am:
You'll notice FD ran off without answering your question, G, followed by the appearance of Setanta, who steered you into their cunning campaign against the Muselman, right?

Freeeeedom, innit.


I'm FD's sock obviously K. Occam's razor, init.

I think FD and I differ though, I don't like any religion. Why do people choose to be slaves?



Oh, I think you like some religions more that others, Setanta.

Why do some people choose to be tinted?


You might have a point there K. Some religions do seem better than others. Better yet philosophies that are treated like religions. Damned Buddhists.

Are you telling me all religions are equal? Like all cultures are equal? That the benefits of these cultures and religions are something that should be shared worldwide?
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #423 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:18am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:16am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:11am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:05am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:54am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:49am:
You'll notice FD ran off without answering your question, G, followed by the appearance of Setanta, who steered you into their cunning campaign against the Muselman, right?

Freeeeedom, innit.


I'm FD's sock obviously K. Occam's razor, init.

I think FD and I differ though, I don't like any religion. Why do people choose to be slaves?



Perhaps they don't consider themselves as you consider them?

In any event, you don't want it explained to you. No explanation would suffice. You simply want to sit in judgement.


It seems you are doing that yourself without any help from me.


I'm not the one claiming all Muslims think anything at all .. or that all religious people are slaves.

That would be all you. In judgement.

Me calling you on it is a far lesser example of what you yourself are doing. I'm calling you, an individual, on your words. And with the benefit of having tried previously to have similar conversations with you.

You are intractable. You always have been.

You were once civil and respectful though. You're no longer even that.


That's racist, apparently. They are not incapable of thought.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #424 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am
 
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are. I would have thought Mothra would understand this considering her line of work.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #425 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:23am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:18am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:16am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:11am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:05am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:54am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 12:49am:
You'll notice FD ran off without answering your question, G, followed by the appearance of Setanta, who steered you into their cunning campaign against the Muselman, right?

Freeeeedom, innit.


I'm FD's sock obviously K. Occam's razor, init.

I think FD and I differ though, I don't like any religion. Why do people choose to be slaves?



Perhaps they don't consider themselves as you consider them?

In any event, you don't want it explained to you. No explanation would suffice. You simply want to sit in judgement.


It seems you are doing that yourself without any help from me.


I'm not the one claiming all Muslims think anything at all .. or that all religious people are slaves.

That would be all you. In judgement.

Me calling you on it is a far lesser example of what you yourself are doing. I'm calling you, an individual, on your words. And with the benefit of having tried previously to have similar conversations with you.

You are intractable. You always have been.

You were once civil and respectful though. You're no longer even that.


That's racist, apparently. They are not incapable of thought.


Just childish. Save it for the members it works on. Our conversation will be very short if you keep this crap up.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #426 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.
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Reply #427 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:26am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.


You have writ large your pissed offedness but not addressed anything but that. That's not a win. Explain yourself.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #428 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:31am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:26am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.


You have writ large your pissed offedness but not addressed anything but that. That's not a win. Explain yourself.



Pissed offedness is nowhere near what i'm feeling. And you raisded the ante ... suggesting that all Muslims felt any way at all, least of all what you ascribed them.

Then the claim that all religious people are slaves.

Can you seriously suggest a more productive way of dealing with such commentary that dismissing it and criticising it's source?

As i said, there is no point debating this with you. I tried many times before you became hostile in general. I got nowhere. You don;t want to change your mind. You just want to insult. God knows you get enough praise for doing it on here.

It's not going to work on me.

You have been corrected. I fail to see what more needs to be said to you.
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Reply #429 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:41am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:31am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:26am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.


You have writ large your pissed offedness but not addressed anything but that. That's not a win. Explain yourself.



Pissed offedness is nowhere near what i'm feeling. And you raisded the ante ... suggesting that all Muslims felt any way at all, least of all what you ascribed them.

Then the claim that all religious people are slaves.

Can you seriously suggest a more productive way of dealing with such commentary that dismissing it and criticising it's source?

As i said, there is no point debating this with you. I tried many times before you became hostile in general. I got nowhere. You don;t want to change your mind. You just want to insult. God knows you get enough praise for doing it on here.

It's not going to work on me.

You have been corrected. I fail to see what more needs to be said to you.


All religious people are slaves. Slaves to their doctrine and beliefs. How can you deny that? I've always be somewhat hostile to religion. Like forever. It's not a new thing at all. I haven't insulted anyone unless insulting religion is insulting and I've always done that.

Seems the one that hates catholicism and endured it's travails has a hard on for other faiths now. Why do you think they deserve any more respect?
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #430 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:51am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:41am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:31am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:26am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.


You have writ large your pissed offedness but not addressed anything but that. That's not a win. Explain yourself.



Pissed offedness is nowhere near what i'm feeling. And you raisded the ante ... suggesting that all Muslims felt any way at all, least of all what you ascribed them.

Then the claim that all religious people are slaves.

Can you seriously suggest a more productive way of dealing with such commentary that dismissing it and criticising it's source?

As i said, there is no point debating this with you. I tried many times before you became hostile in general. I got nowhere. You don;t want to change your mind. You just want to insult. God knows you get enough praise for doing it on here.

It's not going to work on me.

You have been corrected. I fail to see what more needs to be said to you.


All religious people are slaves. Slaves to their doctrine and beliefs. How can you deny that? I've always be somewhat hostile to religion. Like forever. It's not a new thing at all. I haven't insulted anyone unless insulting religion is insulting and I've always done that.

Seems the one that hates catholicism and endured it's travails has a hard on for other faiths now. Why do you think they deserve any more respect?




Some of the finest people i know are Catholics. And some of the qualities i like most about me are inspired by my religious upbringing.

Your point?
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #431 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:59am
 
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:51am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:41am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:31am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:26am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.


You have writ large your pissed offedness but not addressed anything but that. That's not a win. Explain yourself.



Pissed offedness is nowhere near what i'm feeling. And you raisded the ante ... suggesting that all Muslims felt any way at all, least of all what you ascribed them.

Then the claim that all religious people are slaves.

Can you seriously suggest a more productive way of dealing with such commentary that dismissing it and criticising it's source?

As i said, there is no point debating this with you. I tried many times before you became hostile in general. I got nowhere. You don;t want to change your mind. You just want to insult. God knows you get enough praise for doing it on here.

It's not going to work on me.

You have been corrected. I fail to see what more needs to be said to you.


All religious people are slaves. Slaves to their doctrine and beliefs. How can you deny that? I've always be somewhat hostile to religion. Like forever. It's not a new thing at all. I haven't insulted anyone unless insulting religion is insulting and I've always done that.

Seems the one that hates catholicism and endured it's travails has a hard on for other faiths now. Why do you think they deserve any more respect?




Some of the finest people i know are Catholics. And some of the qualities i like most about me are inspired by my religious upbringing.

Your point?


Living proof that it depends on how you handle yourself.... living by basic Christian, Buddhist, or Muslim or any other beliefs is just a clear indication of your socialisation - for every one like you - there are one or more who do not follow the same ideas...

Most people just want to get on and be decent - but there are always a few who want to be violent and vicious....

Now show us how to see the difference....... the problem has always been, and always will be, with a minority with some grievance, real or imagined, who will use that as the justification for insane actions.

How do YOU pick the difference?  I'm curious....
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #432 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 2:01am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:59am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:51am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:41am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:31am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:26am:
mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:24am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 1:22am:
You know, you lot could drop your antagonism and try to make a case rather than doing what you are, no-one is going to discuss with you lashing out like you are.



Irony writ large.


You have writ large your pissed offedness but not addressed anything but that. That's not a win. Explain yourself.



Pissed offedness is nowhere near what i'm feeling. And you raisded the ante ... suggesting that all Muslims felt any way at all, least of all what you ascribed them.

Then the claim that all religious people are slaves.

Can you seriously suggest a more productive way of dealing with such commentary that dismissing it and criticising it's source?

As i said, there is no point debating this with you. I tried many times before you became hostile in general. I got nowhere. You don;t want to change your mind. You just want to insult. God knows you get enough praise for doing it on here.

It's not going to work on me.

You have been corrected. I fail to see what more needs to be said to you.


All religious people are slaves. Slaves to their doctrine and beliefs. How can you deny that? I've always be somewhat hostile to religion. Like forever. It's not a new thing at all. I haven't insulted anyone unless insulting religion is insulting and I've always done that.

Seems the one that hates catholicism and endured it's travails has a hard on for other faiths now. Why do you think they deserve any more respect?




Some of the finest people i know are Catholics. And some of the qualities i like most about me are inspired by my religious upbringing.

Your point?


Living proof that it depends on how you handle yourself.... living by basic Christian, Buddhist, or Muslim or any other beliefs is just a clear indication of your socialisation - for every one like you - there are one or more who do not follow the same ideas...

Most people just want to get on and be decent - but there are always a few who want to be violent and vicious....

Now show us how to see the difference....... the problem has always been, and always will be, with a minority with some grievance, real or imagined, who will use that as the justification for insane actions.

How do YOU pick the difference?  I'm curious....


That is a characteristic of all humans, regardless of race, gender or creed.

Identifying certain groups under suspicion of this and not applying it generally is both foolish and bigoted.
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Reply #433 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 2:09am
 
I understand you are here to support the most feminist of religions Mothra. You go girl and reap what you sow.
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Reply #434 - Aug 4th, 2019 at 2:20am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 4th, 2019 at 2:09am:
I understand you are here to support the most feminist of religions Mothra. You go girl and reap what you sow.



You know that Yassmin qualified that comment by saying clearly "for her" Why be so dishonest?

She is certainly entitled to believe that Islam resonates most deeply with her own feminist beliefs.

She has certainly never diminished or belittled the crimes against humanity so common in totalitarian regimes.

Some people just seem to want there to be as much antagonism as possible. You appear to be one of them.

Here's the thing, your way isn't the solution to the plights of those repressed and oppressed women. Neither do i think you really care about them aside from using them as a political football ... as do so many others on here.
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