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Reply #390 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:15pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
making sure everyone knows it was a 12 month ban   and not 6 is not being shy!


is that why you were banned for 12 months?...


i think everyone should know what a duplicitous coward FD is. Don't you? And he refuses to say why. If you checked my comments prior to the ban there was nothing extraordinary there to warrant a 12 month ban. The only logical conclusion is that he lost the plot, or doesn't like people who disagree with him. Given that both Mothra and I got our ban at the same time, for the same period, the last reason is the only one to make sense.

cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
to my mind a contract is a contract

dont sign it if you dont agree with it.


i agree.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #391 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:15pm:
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
making sure everyone knows it was a 12 month ban   and not 6 is not being shy!


is that why you were banned for 12 months?...


i think everyone should know what a duplicitous coward FD is. Don't you? And he refuses to say why. If you checked my comments prior to the ban there was nothing extraordinary there to warrant a 12 month ban. The only logical conclusion is that he lost the plot, or doesn't like people who disagree with him. Given that both Mothra and I got our ban at the same time, for the same period, the last reason is the only one to make sense.


when you decide to have your very own forum  I am sure you will understand
you answer to no one...

its your forum and you pay the bill... in the mean time there is no obligation for any member to post...

you dont like the rules  so be it..

fd doesnt answer your questions its not as if he does for some and not others.

its his choice its his forum....

perhaps you get better service at monks?....

so therein lies your choice...

fd is being fd    he isnt being duplicitous at all...


cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
to my mind a contract is a contract

dont sign it if you dont agree with it.


i agree.


so we have no argument regarding folaus  freedom of speech....its good to know!
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Reply #392 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:32pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
when you decide to have your very own forum  I am sure you will understand
you answer to no one...


it's not about answering to anyone. How do I, or anyone else, know what got his panties all knotted up the last time, and what to avoid doing in the future, if he doesn't tell me what it was? I used to moderate an immigration forum years ago and I ALWAYS told people why they were banned. Not that I banned many.


cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
so we have no argument regarding folaus  freedom of speech....its good to know!



never did. You spoke out against FD's faux victimology from the beginning. Good on you for it.
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Reply #393 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 12:46am
 
JS  got a six month ban?  Now THAT is what is wrong with our judicial and sentencing system......


Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool
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Reply #394 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 8:02am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:15pm:
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
making sure everyone knows it was a 12 month ban   and not 6 is not being shy!


is that why you were banned for 12 months?...


i think everyone should know what a duplicitous coward FD is. Don't you? And he refuses to say why. If you checked my comments prior to the ban there was nothing extraordinary there to warrant a 12 month ban. The only logical conclusion is that he lost the plot, or doesn't like people who disagree with him. Given that both Mothra and I got our ban at the same time, for the same period, the last reason is the only one to make sense.

cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
to my mind a contract is a contract

dont sign it if you dont agree with it.


i agree.


Then we're agreed.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #395 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 4:58pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 12:46am:
JS  got a six month ban?  Now THAT is what is wrong with our judicial and sentencing system......


Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool


it was 12 months. Roll Eyes
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Reply #396 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:22pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 12:42pm:
We're not talking about obligations, dear. We're talking about Freeeedom.

Besides, it would be polite to tell JS why he received a 6
12
month ban.

It's not an obligation, it's a courtesy.

You?


fixed it for you K Wink




not something to brag about I wouldnt think?.... Roll Eyes

js has no more freedom than folau  or you karnel for that matter....

I would bet even you have rules when someone comes into your house....and if they started breaking the place up you would quickly ask them to leave....

I know I would 


I agree, dear. A
12
month ban for not saying what sound a jellyfish makes seems fair to me.

Naughty naughty, JS. I trust you've learned to answer FD's questions in a timely manner.
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Reply #397 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:32pm:
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
when you decide to have your very own forum  I am sure you will understand
you answer to no one...


it's not about answering to anyone.


Yes, but Cods does have a point, JS. FD never answers anyone.

Freeeeedom of speech, innit.
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Reply #398 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:29pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:32pm:
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
when you decide to have your very own forum  I am sure you will understand
you answer to no one...


it's not about answering to anyone.


Yes, but Cods does have a point, JS. FD never answers anyone.

Freeeeedom of speech, innit.


he never did say what sound a jellyfish makes Cheesy
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Reply #399 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:32pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:29pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:32pm:
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
when you decide to have your very own forum  I am sure you will understand
you answer to no one...


it's not about answering to anyone.


Yes, but Cods does have a point, JS. FD never answers anyone.

Freeeeedom of speech, innit.


he never did say what sound a jellyfish makes Cheesy


Ah.
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Reply #400 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 2:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:35am:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Does that mean he was not fired for his religious views John? In other words, are you telling a lie, or just giving us meaningless obfuscation?


He was fired for breaching his code of conduct FD.

Do you need me to repeat it for you again?


Let me try to dumb it down for you. Was Folau fired for expressing his religious views?


No.


Well that's a surprise. I was expecting you to go with the meaningless obfuscation options rather than the blatant lie option. And it only took you a few pages to give a straight answer.

Is your reasoning that the technical appeal to the contract clause means he was not expressing his religious views?


My reasoning is that he wasn't fired for expressing his religious views.

Not really sure what part of that you don't understand.

If you believe he was, then simply provide a link to the statement from his employer saying that he was fired for expressing his religious views.

Over to you.


What you don't understand is that he was expressing his religion views.

Are you using the fact that the employer did not openly admit to firing him illegally as evidence? Are you really that naive?
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Reply #401 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 3:18pm
 
Do religious views have to include hate speech, FD?

Do you campaign against the Muselman because of your religious views?

That's a question.
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Reply #402 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 3:19pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:29pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:32pm:
cods wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
when you decide to have your very own forum  I am sure you will understand
you answer to no one...


it's not about answering to anyone.


Yes, but Cods does have a point, JS. FD never answers anyone.

Freeeeedom of speech, innit.


he never did say what sound a jellyfish makes Cheesy


Oh, I think he'll make it any second now, JS.
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Reply #403 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 10:17pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 3:18pm:
Do religious views have to include hate speech, FD?


Or indeed incitement to violence. FD never did manage to get a coherent explanation for the theoretical 'religious belief' that all jews should be gassed in ovens - only a lame 'well I doubt such a religious belief would exist' type response.
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Reply #404 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 10:25pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 10:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 3:18pm:
Do religious views have to include hate speech, FD?


Or indeed incitement to violence. FD never did manage to get a coherent explanation for the theoretical 'religious belief' that all jews should be gassed in ovens - only a lame 'well I doubt such a religious belief would exist' type response.


How about the 'theoretical' religious belief that they really were a literal mindless collective of treacherous Jews without individual personality? Or that even the rocks are going to assist people in slaughtering Jews?

Religions don't have to include hate speech, but one of them throws it in for free.
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