Australian Politics Forum - Folau vs Yassmin

Setanta

Gold Member

Offline

\/ Peace man!

Posts: 15914
Northern NSW
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #285 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

I said that Folau was able to contract out of a UNHCR matter. If I am wrong, the Court will say so, assuming Folau takes that tack.

You can flap your gums as much as you like. I don't have to accommodate you.

You made the claim. What sound does a jellyfish make?

Ask freediver.

You not willing to make a sound?

Back to top

IP Logged

Aussie

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 37678
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #286 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:18pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

I said that Folau was able to contract out of a UNHCR matter. If I am wrong, the Court will say so, assuming Folau takes that tack.

You can flap your gums as much as you like. I don't have to accommodate you.

You made the claim. What sound does a jellyfish make?

Ask freediver.

You not willing to make a sound?

I have been 'making a sound' for the last several minutes with you, but, as is usual, you have no capacity to understand when one side of a discussion has said all they have to say. My PM inbox is replete with similar examples.

Go ask FD what sound a jellyfish makes. Try your luck with him.

Back to top

IP Logged

Mattyfisk

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 92261
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #287 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:24pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 7:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 5:24pm:

Nope. I can contract out of a right the UNHCR might seek to give me.

The bloke signed up for $M4 on conditions. Breach them......bye bye.

My wife and I made a contract. She promised to love honour and obey. She signed that contract. Should I dissolve the contract when she refuses to obey or should she be forced to obey? It's not rape if she signed the contract, yeah? She signed away her human rights, it's on her head if she refuses.

No no, if she says you're going to hell, that's an out.

Give it a go if you want, dear.

Wouldn't that be something for her to give a go, K? And she didn't say I'm going to hell, so where does that leave you? Jaded?

No no, tinted. Dirty little invert, innit.

I do see your point though, dear. You're highlighting the similarities between contract and family law. Sort of a Venn diagram, so to speak.

Should we do the right thing and blame Islam?

Back to top

IP Logged

Mattyfisk

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 92261
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #288 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:25pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

I said that Folau was able to contract out of a UNHCR matter. If I am wrong, the Court will say so, assuming Folau takes that tack.

You can flap your gums as much as you like. I don't have to accommodate you.

You made the claim. What sound does a jellyfish make?

Ask freediver.

You not willing to make a sound?

What sound does a jellyfish make?

Back to top

IP Logged

Mattyfisk

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 92261
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #289 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

I said that Folau was able to contract out of a UNHCR matter. If I am wrong, the Court will say so, assuming Folau takes that tack.

You can flap your gums as much as you like. I don't have to accommodate you.

You made the claim. What sound does a jellyfish make?

Ask freediver.

You not willing to make a sound?

I have been 'making a sound' for the last several minutes with you, but, as is usual, you have no capacity to understand when one side of a discussion has said all they have to say. My PM inbox is replete with similar examples.

Go ask FD what sound a jellyfish makes. Try your luck with him.

FD won't answer that, Aussie.

Back to top

IP Logged

Mattyfisk

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 92261
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #290 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:49pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 7:56pm:

I'm shaking nothing off. I stand by what I said. If Folau wants to claim some right under UNHCR, then let him say so. He hasn't. He can flaunt off to The Hague and try his luck there if he likes.

You said people could sign(contract) away their human rights. That is what you said. All I'm doing is pointing out my wife did that too and I'm asking if she should obey the terms of her contract? Should she be forced to obey the contract?

Is your wit as dim as your eye-sight? I have said what I said. Take it or leave it. Let's see what the Court says.

Nice way to pike out on your words. Gutless really.

I am standing by my words. Move on. Let's see what the Court says.

So my wife and all women should obey their contracts as IF should? Good to know. I wonder what Mothra thinks of your decision to support contracts over human rights.

Well, actually, dear, contract law surpasses human rights. The US has a Bill of Rights that people routinely sign away in employment contracts.

Mr Trump's employees and floozies always sign non-disclosure agreements, for example. All his wives do. Employees in the US often sign contracts that warn of disciplinary action for unwanted social media use. Many positions have codes of conduct that regulate your speech outside the workplace.

Australia doesn't even have a Bill of Rights. They can do what they want, dear. It's their world.

Back to top

IP Logged

John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Folau vs Yassmin Reply #291 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:57pm Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:24pm: So my wife and all women should obey their contracts as IF should? don't assume all wives are so stupid as to 'promise to obey'.
Back to top	Our esteemed leader: I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus. IP Logged

Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92261 Gender:	Re: Folau vs Yassmin Reply #292 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 11:26pm John Smith wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:57pm: Setanta wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:24pm: So my wife and all women should obey their contracts as IF should? don't assume all wives are so stupid as to 'promise to obey'. Setanta might have himself a nice little Filipina lass, JS. They always promise.
Back to top	IP Logged

rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Folau vs Yassmin Reply #293 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 12:37am John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:01pm: rhino wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Ben Cousins has lots of people who think hes a role model, most of them are in prison. Not sure what that proves. it proves that he is a role model. No more, no less. whoosh!
Back to top	IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47356
At my desk.

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #294 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 7:56am

There are plenty of inalienable rights that you cannot sign away in a contract. Otherwise all our employment laws would be paper tigers. Hence terms like illegal and unenforceable clauses. If there was a real ex-lawyer in the house they would have no trouble explaining.

Aussie thinks it is legal in Australia to put clauses in your contract that allow you to rape your employees. No wonder he thinks Folau is screwed.

Back to top

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!

IP Logged

Aussie

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 37678
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #295 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 10:26am

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 7:56am:

There are plenty of inalienable rights that you cannot sign away in a contract. Otherwise all our employment laws would be paper tigers. Hence terms like illegal and unenforceable clauses. If there was a real ex-lawyer in the house they would have no trouble explaining.

Aussie thinks it is legal in Australia to put clauses in your contract that allow you to rape your employees. No wonder he thinks Folau is screwed.

Link me to where I said I think that Effendi. I'll bet you can't. I have never said anything about being allowed to rape employees, but that seems not to deter you from putting false words into my mouth.

And, Effendi, really. When you invite people here you require that they sign up to your contract. Some might argue that your contract encroaches on the rights you say Folau cannot sign away. Yet, you enforce your contract and think nothing of it. So, why do you deny RA the same capacity?

Back to top

IP Logged

Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92261 Gender:	Re: Folau vs Yassmin Reply #296 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 12:03pm You know what FD's answer will be to that one, don't you, Aussie?
Back to top	IP Logged

Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80190 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Folau vs Yassmin Reply #297 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 12:34pm Big difference between a religion that says you'll go to hell if you continue your kind of behaviour, and one that offers to give you hell on earth and then send you to hell at knife point ..... even if you are not guilty ... Subtle difference, I know, but still..
Back to top	“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” ― John Adams IP Logged

polite_gandalf

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 20023
Canberra
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #298 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 12:56pm

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 7:56am:

There are plenty of inalienable rights that you cannot sign away in a contract. Otherwise all our employment laws would be paper tigers. Hence terms like illegal and unenforceable clauses. If there was a real ex-lawyer in the house they would have no trouble explaining.

Aussie thinks it is legal in Australia to put clauses in your contract that allow you to rape your employees. No wonder he thinks Folau is screwed.

It is unreasonable to dictate to employers that they have no say in how their employees can conduct themselves on public forums FD.

Back to top

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
Quote:

Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

IP Logged

Gnads

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 28030
Gender: male

Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #299 - Jul 14^th, 2019 at 1:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 7:56am:

There are plenty of inalienable rights that you cannot sign away in a contract. Otherwise all our employment laws would be paper tigers. Hence terms like illegal and unenforceable clauses. If there was a real ex-lawyer in the house they would have no trouble explaining.

Aussie thinks it is legal in Australia to put clauses in your contract that allow you to rape your employees. No wonder he thinks Folau is screwed.

It is unreasonable to dictate to employers that they have no say in how their employees can conduct themselves on public forums FD.

If they are not displaying/using any company/ employer identification & in their own time in private ......... then why should an employer dictate what you say in your private life on a public forum that has nothing to do with your workplace?

Back to top

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

IP Logged