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Reply #120 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 10:19am
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 1:42am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 1:40am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 1:33am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 1:25am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 11:58pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 11:43pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 11:36pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 11:30pm:
Now now, FD, in Auggie's homofascist zeal, he hasn't said the government is responsible for anything.

I believe you're saying the government should step in to legislate hommer-bashing as a matter of "religious" freedom.

Who's been reading the holy Quran, eh?

And what sound does a jellyfish make?

You haven't said.


I meet a few of the "going to hell" list, more if we take other shyte from the bible into account. I haven't complained and have no wish to, as far as I'm concerned he can go to hell with his religious crap. I have to wonder why the poofs couldn't do the same. Why are they offended by something they have no belief in? Why are the poofs so butt hurt? Perhaps that could be a rhetorical Q.


What's it got to do with poofs?

Wasn't FD cranky with Rugby Australia? Or the government for not telling them what to do with their employees? Or the Separation of Powers?

I forget now.

FD?


What's it got to do with FD? Poofs are the ones whining someone said they are going to hell unless they believe in some sky fairy and repent to him. Why would you get upset if a nutjob like Israel says that? Why are the poofs and the perpetually offended giving a toss? Really who gives a shyte what he says and he had more reasons to have me in hell that a bit of miam miam?



Rugby Australia, eh?

Not that there's anything wrong with it.


I don't follow sport. RA has nothing to do with what I'm saying and asking you. So skip that and answer without RA or sponsors or Quantas. Why are poofs and their perpetually offended friends even giving a fuck?



Oh, some of them probably have spoilt hommer kids they don't want to offend.

So typical of sporting and youth associations.


That's the best you can come up with? I ask again...

"I don't follow sport. RA has nothing to do with what I'm saying and asking you. So skip that and answer without RA or sponsors or Quantas. Why are poofs and their perpetually offended friends even giving a fuck?"




Sorry, Setanta, I get you now. And do you know?

As one of their perpetually offended friends, I didn't give a fck either. A football player sacked for being nasty to our boys on social media. No worries.

But the more I think about it, the more I realise how good it is to be nice to each other. The more I think about it, the more I see the perpetually offended haters telling everyone they have the right to not be offended and saved from the dirty hommers and how very dare they fire our star haters.

Alan's a dirty hommer and even he's putting the boot in. The culture wars, it would seem, are being played out by a globalist Irish hommer from the boardroom behind the scenes and his white-nationalist hommer shock-jock opponent on the airwaves.

What a cat fight, eh?

And as ever, you're cheering for Alan. Good for you, dear. I didn't previously care about an issue of contract law, but when I think of Ooga-booga happy-clappies telling decent white people where they'll spend Eternity, well.

We won't have that, dear. It goes against nature.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #121 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 10:37am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 8:23am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 11:05pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 10:15pm:
Suppose Alan Joyce called for his sacking, but he was not sacked. Do you think people on here would care as much about Folau's freedom of speech and freedom of religion then?


Of course they would. Joyce is already under fire for the sacking.

Folau's actual sacking isn't what the culture warriors are getting their pants wet over - its that the "homofascists" as you call them dared to attack him for his religious views. Joyce stepping in would have just upped the ante, as he is an actual vested interest in this - and it would have (rightly) been interpreted by the culture warriors as RA being put under real and significant pressure to sack one of their players - given Qantas's financial influence over RA.

To say that liberal politicians - including senior cabinet ministers - calling directly for an ABC employee to be sacked is not a serious interference that causes real influence to the ABC management is disingenuous to the extreme. Especially with what we now know about the Alberici case. And simply retorting that neither Yassmin or Alberici were sacked in the end does not change the fact that it was an egregious attack on their freedom.


The only reason it is an issue is because Folau was actually sacked. Otherwise the vast majority would take the same view as the atheists, drunks, fornicators etc on Folau's list - who cares what they say?


I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.

Folou was warned he'd be axed from the team if he did it again. Rather than backing down, he made the decision to fire another one off, obviously as a test.

Rugby Australia pulled the only trigger they have - they gave him the boot. If they didn't, they would have been backed into a corner. Folou would have upped the social media campaign and become the haters' happy-clappie hero, a religious figurehead, a player on the religious-right who publicly undermines the national solidarity Rugby Australia wants to portray.

He's now waging a high-stakes campaign for freedom of religious expression, but he wasn't sacked for expressing religious views. He was sacked for hate speech against the hommers. I can't be sure, but I don't think anyone expects him to stop spruiking his religion. That's his right.

And that's why he'll lose his case.
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Reply #122 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am
 
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I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.
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Reply #123 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
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I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure. What do you expect?
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Reply #124 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 2:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Everyone else is expected to act like an adult



does that include folau  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #125 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 3:00pm
 
Had to post this:

(Hmm.....seems I have no idea how to re-size...yet.)

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #126 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 3:01pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
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I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure.

What do you expect?




TherealKarnal,

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Which hate speech would you be referring to there ?




If you are arguing that it was hate speech, BY, Israel Folau,
then please give us the quote of that hate speech.
[i.e. NOT the scripture, which Israel Folau quoted].

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #127 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 8:23am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 11:05pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 10:15pm:
Suppose Alan Joyce called for his sacking, but he was not sacked. Do you think people on here would care as much about Folau's freedom of speech and freedom of religion then?


Of course they would. Joyce is already under fire for the sacking.

Folau's actual sacking isn't what the culture warriors are getting their pants wet over - its that the "homofascists" as you call them dared to attack him for his religious views. Joyce stepping in would have just upped the ante, as he is an actual vested interest in this - and it would have (rightly) been interpreted by the culture warriors as RA being put under real and significant pressure to sack one of their players - given Qantas's financial influence over RA.

To say that liberal politicians - including senior cabinet ministers - calling directly for an ABC employee to be sacked is not a serious interference that causes real influence to the ABC management is disingenuous to the extreme. Especially with what we now know about the Alberici case. And simply retorting that neither Yassmin or Alberici were sacked in the end does not change the fact that it was an egregious attack on their freedom.


The only reason it is an issue is because Folau was actually sacked. Otherwise the vast majority would take the same view as the atheists, drunks, fornicators etc on Folau's list - who cares what they say?


I'll drink to that....
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Reply #128 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:31pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
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I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure. What do you expect?


It's not hate speech.
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Reply #129 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:34pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 3:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Quote:
I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure.

What do you expect?




TherealKarnal,

Q.
Which hate speech would you be referring to there ?




If you are arguing that it was hate speech, BY, Israel Folau,
then please give us the quote of that hate speech.
[i.e. NOT the scripture, which Israel Folau quoted].



What is God's plan for gays?

HELL... unless they repent their sins and turn to God.

Which gospel is it, Y? Chapter and verse, please.
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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #130 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:31pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Quote:
I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure. What do you expect?


It's not hate speech.


That's true. He also said Jesus loves them, no?

What did you say God's plan for the hommers is, FD?

We didn't catch it.
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Reply #131 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:31pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Quote:
I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure. What do you expect?


It's not hate speech.


That's true. He also said Jesus loves them, no?

What did you say God's plan for the hommers is, FD?

We didn't catch it.


Do you think Folau hates gays?
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Reply #132 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:45pm
 
Effendi...you have ignored this question first posed by me when I asked where Gays end up, and now Abu also asks.

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Reply #133 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:51pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:31pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Quote:
I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure. What do you expect?


It's not hate speech.


That's true. He also said Jesus loves them, no?

What did you say God's plan for the hommers is, FD?

We didn't catch it.


Do you think Folau hates gays?


Only in an existential sense.

Some of those macho Islanders love the hommers.

What's God's plan for them, dear?
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Reply #134 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:52pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 3:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:48am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:38am:
Quote:
I don't think Rugby Australia have atheists and drunks in mind in their anti-homophobia/anti-DV stance, FD, but do go on. It's good to see you express yourself. Most healthy.


Because they are homofascists. Everyone else is expected to act like an adult, but if you include gays on your list suddenly everyone is throwing tantrums and demanding you get fired.


Over hate speech?

Sure.

What do you expect?




TherealKarnal,

Q.
Which hate speech would you be referring to there ?




If you are arguing that it was hate speech, BY, Israel Folau,
then please give us the quote of that hate speech.
[i.e. NOT the scripture, which Israel Folau quoted].



What is     God's plan      for gays?


HELL... unless they repent their sins and turn to God.

Which gospel is it, Y? Chapter and verse, please.




TherealKarnal,

So when you are referring to    hate speech,      it is the hate speech of God which you are referring to.

And not,       the ideas, the 'plans', and the hate speech,      of Israel Folau ?



TherealKarnal,

If i quote your words, posted in this forum.

Does my quoting of your words/views,     mean that those views [that were expressed and posted by yourself],
can now be 'taken', to be views that have ['magically'] originated from myself ?





'Chapter and verse' ?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1562056827/119#119




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