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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #150 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:04pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:59am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:04pm:

Some fat big mouthed lezzo or some skinny soy boy wouldn't last 5 minutes after shooting their mouths off in the old times. It's only now they are empowered but it will eventually go back to what it was when structured society falls.

I blame Islam, but that's just moi.

Fair point.......................

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #151 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #152 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 6:57pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented the homo.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #153 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:04pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented the homo.

As one such as you would know, hommers don't do cunt, Alexander did.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #154 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:21pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented the homo.

As one such as you would know, hommers don't do cunt, Alexander did.

We all like a nice piece of cunt, dear.

Your Boong invented the stick.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #155 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:25pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented the homo.

As one such as you would know, hommers don't do cunt, Alexander did.

We all like a nice piece of cunt, dear.

Your Boong invented the stick.

My boong? I don't have any, are you suggesting I take one in? Housekeeper perhaps to lighten the load on the wife? Not that I'm that heavy.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #156 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:05pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 11:41am:

Rider wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 5:55pm:

Rudd...Shorten....Albenese......sure ain't no alpha males in lefty world. Soft cks the lot.

Yeah nearly as soft as Christopher Pine Grin

Howard, Abbott, Morrison the Buffoon .... hardly leadership material.... laugh material - but not leadership...

When people talk about Alpha they mostly really mean "A" type personalities.

"A" types do tend to be driven and successful they become business leaders or Politicians etc. That is the smarter ones the dumber "A" types get caught doing the same things that all "A" types will do and go to prison instead.

They do tend to have very low empathy counts and thus the criticism about bleeding hearts etc in fact many of them experience so little empathy that they think it is a pretense and then themselves pretend to have some.

The Liberal party in a nut shell with most of their supporters thrown in for good measure.

Rudd...Shorten....Albanese Gillard,Howard, Abbott, Morrison and Pyne are all "A" types you simply do not get into that position if you are not. They were all likely one gotcha away from being residents of Long Bay.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #157 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:29pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented the homo.

As one such as you would know, hommers don't do cunt, Alexander did.

We all like a nice piece of cunt, dear.

Your Boong invented the stick.

My boong? I don't have any, are you suggesting I take one in? Housekeeper perhaps to lighten the load on the wife? Not that I'm that heavy.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #158 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:34pm

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:05pm:

There's no such thing as an alpha male

Eric Trump recently suggested that when his father, Donald Trump, bragged about grabbing women's genitals without consent, it was an example of " two alpha guys in a thing."
In addition to shedding some light on how Trump's son views his father and manhood, it's also interesting because "alpha males" aren't actually a thing.

As the writer Saladin Ahmed pointed out, the concept of "alpha male" wolves that assert dominance over their pack through aggression comes from a debunked model of lupine social groups.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuh-FgXWAAE5O1-.jpg

David Mech introduced the idea of the alpha to describe behavior observed in captive animals. Alphas, he wrote in his 1970 book "The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species," win control of their packs in violent fights with other males.

But, as he outlined in a 1999 paper, he's since rejected that idea in light of research into the behavior of wolves in the wild.

In nature, Mech writes, wolves split off from their packs when they mature, and seek out opposite-sex companions with whom to form new packs. The male and female co-dominate the new pack for a much simpler, more peaceful reason: They're the parents of all the pups.

Mech writes on his website (with the lovely title Wolf News and Info) that his original book is "currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it."

Another Twitter user, Mike Westphal, pointed out another paper on the misuse of the phrase "alpha males" to describe breeding roosters.

In the 2003 book " Sexual Selections: What We Can and Can't Learn about Sex from Animals," the biologist Marlene Zuk points out that social groups of hens do have "pecking orders." That is, hierarchies among the females with dominance asserted through pecking.

But roosters are not part of those social groups, Zuk writes, and the idea that the top hen is somehow an "alpha male" bizarrely misgenders the dominant bird.

All of which is to say: Humans who enjoy the idea of "alpha males" might want to keep in mind that there isn't really any such thing. And to the extent the term has any meaning at all, it describes the behavior of captive, lonely creatures.

https://www.businessinsider.com/no-such-thing-alpha-male-2016-10?r=US&IR=T&fbcli...

What is the mythical FEMALE equivalent of the alpha male?

The nurturing, feeling, sensitive, attuned female??

The hysterical, irrational, madfvckingcrazy harridan?

Iconoclasm both ways? Let's do it.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #159 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 9:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 11:41am:

Rider wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 5:55pm:

Rudd...Shorten....Albenese......sure ain't no alpha males in lefty world. Soft cks the lot.

Yeah nearly as soft as Christopher Pine Grin

Howard, Abbott, Morrison the Buffoon .... hardly leadership material.... laugh material - but not leadership...

When people talk about Alpha they mostly really mean "A" type personalities.

"A" types do tend to be driven and successful they become business leaders or Politicians etc. That is the smarter ones the dumber "A" types get caught doing the same things that all "A" types will do and go to prison instead.

They do tend to have very low empathy counts and thus the criticism about bleeding hearts etc in fact many of them experience so little empathy that they think it is a pretense and then themselves pretend to have some.

The Liberal party in a nut shell with most of their supporters thrown in for good measure.

Rudd...Shorten....Albanese Gillard,Howard, Abbott, Morrison and Pyne are all "A" types you simply do not get into that position if you are not. They were all likely one gotcha away from being residents of Long Bay.

You are very muddled and demonstrate extremely limited understanding of personality types. Suggest you do a lot of reading.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #160 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:22pm

rhino wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 11:41am:

Rider wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 5:55pm:

Rudd...Shorten....Albenese......sure ain't no alpha males in lefty world. Soft cks the lot.

Yeah nearly as soft as Christopher Pine Grin

Howard, Abbott, Morrison the Buffoon .... hardly leadership material.... laugh material - but not leadership...

When people talk about Alpha they mostly really mean "A" type personalities.

"A" types do tend to be driven and successful they become business leaders or Politicians etc. That is the smarter ones the dumber "A" types get caught doing the same things that all "A" types will do and go to prison instead.

They do tend to have very low empathy counts and thus the criticism about bleeding hearts etc in fact many of them experience so little empathy that they think it is a pretense and then themselves pretend to have some.

The Liberal party in a nut shell with most of their supporters thrown in for good measure.

Rudd...Shorten....Albanese Gillard,Howard, Abbott, Morrison and Pyne are all "A" types you simply do not get into that position if you are not. They were all likely one gotcha away from being residents of Long Bay.

You are very muddled and demonstrate extremely limited understanding of personality types. Suggest you do a lot of reading.

With so many thinking that the term is Alpha I am hardly behind the curve and there is zero chance that I would ever take advice from you on a topic you so obviously know nothing about.

Of course there is a lot more to it and several different methods of classification and most is BS anyway.

No matter how you look at it the "A" catagory holds the most Arseholes.

I did however demonstrate some knowledge and some opinion where you only criticised while providing nothing of value.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #161 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 11:46pm

rhino wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 11:41am:

Rider wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 5:55pm:

Rudd...Shorten....Albenese......sure ain't no alpha males in lefty world. Soft cks the lot.

Yeah nearly as soft as Christopher Pine Grin

Howard, Abbott, Morrison the Buffoon .... hardly leadership material.... laugh material - but not leadership...

When people talk about Alpha they mostly really mean "A" type personalities.

"A" types do tend to be driven and successful they become business leaders or Politicians etc. That is the smarter ones the dumber "A" types get caught doing the same things that all "A" types will do and go to prison instead.

They do tend to have very low empathy counts and thus the criticism about bleeding hearts etc in fact many of them experience so little empathy that they think it is a pretense and then themselves pretend to have some.

The Liberal party in a nut shell with most of their supporters thrown in for good measure.

Rudd...Shorten....Albanese Gillard,Howard, Abbott, Morrison and Pyne are all "A" types you simply do not get into that position if you are not. They were all likely one gotcha away from being residents of Long Bay.

You are very muddled and demonstrate extremely limited understanding of personality types. Suggest you do a lot of reading.

And you haven't read Brave New World, as every schoolboy knows.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #162 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 11:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:22pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 11:41am:

Rider wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 5:55pm:

Rudd...Shorten....Albenese......sure ain't no alpha males in lefty world. Soft cks the lot.

Yeah nearly as soft as Christopher Pine Grin

Howard, Abbott, Morrison the Buffoon .... hardly leadership material.... laugh material - but not leadership...

When people talk about Alpha they mostly really mean "A" type personalities.

"A" types do tend to be driven and successful they become business leaders or Politicians etc. That is the smarter ones the dumber "A" types get caught doing the same things that all "A" types will do and go to prison instead.

They do tend to have very low empathy counts and thus the criticism about bleeding hearts etc in fact many of them experience so little empathy that they think it is a pretense and then themselves pretend to have some.

The Liberal party in a nut shell with most of their supporters thrown in for good measure.

Rudd...Shorten....Albanese Gillard,Howard, Abbott, Morrison and Pyne are all "A" types you simply do not get into that position if you are not. They were all likely one gotcha away from being residents of Long Bay.

You are very muddled and demonstrate extremely limited understanding of personality types. Suggest you do a lot of reading.

With so many thinking that the term is Alpha I am hardly behind the curve and there is zero chance that I would ever take advice from you on a topic you so obviously know nothing about.

Of course there is a lot more to it and several different methods of classification and most is BS anyway.

No matter how you look at it the "A" catagory holds the most Arseholes.

I did however demonstrate some knowledge and some opinion where you only criticised while providing nothing of value.

Now now, Rhino has expert knowledge of the human species from his work.

You get to know the character of a man, see, when he's standing in his grave with two barrels in his mouth.

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #163 - Jul 7^th, 2019 at 2:28am

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented the homo.

As one such as you would know, hommers don't do cunt, Alexander did.

We all like a nice piece of cunt, dear.

Your Boong invented the stick.

My boong? I don't have any, are you suggesting I take one in? Housekeeper perhaps to lighten the load on the wife? Not that I'm that heavy.

Bin here 40,000 years... just meself, of course... and now doing it easy on the Wharte Man's dime...

I could claim my ancestors have been in Ireland, Germany etc for 40,000 years... what raghts does that give me ?

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Re: There's no such thing as an alpha male
Reply #164 - Jul 7^th, 2019 at 2:29am

Setanta wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 5:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I know one thing- in ancient times soldiers didn't follow woman and soy boys into battle. The strongest and best warrior was usually leader with first pick of the fluff.

Alexander the Great was a homo, Homo, as are many generals and leaders throughout history.

Homo? Nah, just Greek.

They invented olive oil.... Greek sheilas are all right.... known a couple...

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